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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:37 GMT
#2561
On October 24 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 00:48 Xatalos wrote:
I mean.... Your merits this game are defending rayn (who's played exactly according to his scumgame so far, and made many unfathomable logical jumps) based on something that never really happened at the start, and some vague "nice posts" he's made. And attacking Slam for posts that I actually really liked about ritoky/rayn.

okay, you are welcome to think this

but when i end up being right about rayn, i reserve the right to never listen to your opinions in any game ever again.


Heh.... Now I really hope rayn is scum.... Too bad I forgot to demand a counter-bet
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:42 GMT
#2562
On October 24 2015 05:19 marvellosity wrote:
best two reasons to lynch slam:

1. he said he couldn't be lynched d1
2. piss xata off


....... :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 27 2015 17:46 GMT
#2563
I am here. We are lynching Hopeless tomorrow.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
October 27 2015 17:48 GMT
#2564
On October 28 2015 02:46 Onegu wrote:
I am here. We are lynching Hopeless tomorrow.


Lynch bait express
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
October 27 2015 17:50 GMT
#2565
10 townies 3 mafia 5 trolls/players nobody can read for sure.

At least I tried on D2.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:52 GMT
#2566
And now I'm depressed after reading the last pages of marv's filter...

I guess I was a bit too persistent in arguing with him though, overall. Neither of our attitudes were really too productive in those moments.

The points with Chromatically gave me some renewed concern. It's also a bit uncomfortable how rayn soft defended him, then marv went to see for himself and showed it wrong... Why would town rayn give that defense then in the first place?

Not sure how you got ritoky = scum though Vivax? I agree he's been less and less noteworthy over time, but... Did marv ever suspect him?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 27 2015 17:52 GMT
#2567
On October 28 2015 02:26 gumshoe wrote:
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On October 28 2015 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Going forward, I guess a lurker/policy lynch on D1 would be the best option. No risk of arguments going overboard.

On another note, it'll be interesting to see who gets shot tonight. Maybe Vivax, BH, gumshoe or me... It should depend on what the actual scumteam is.


It'll be Bh, hes the most calm level headed person here. The one that most agree is town. I just engineered a lynch on a townie so its not gonna be me / : and theres no reason for scum to end the shit show that is you and Rayn. Barring scum incompetence and weird meta, Bh is probs done.

Bh, you gotta get as many reads in as possible tonight ) :

So I dont think we have much choice in the next few lynches. Chrom is probs town, as there was no reason to push Gb as hard as he did when the lynch was already going great for scum. So adding him to my town pile only leaves a few possibilitys.

Hopeless never mentioned yam at all really until his vote, so thats an obvius one.

Onegu's vote on hopeless was super pointless for a townie. The kind of thing I could see him doing because he knew both wagons (gb and yam) were town and wanted to be like "hah! I was the only guy who knew what was up yo" he may have also wanted to distance himself from hopeless. Early on Onegu mentioned that he wouldnt be very useful, but that he would be fairly right most of the time. sounds kinda like scum no?

Show nested quote +
You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong.


Then theres Gb, there may not be any way to avoid lynching him honestly / : so long as players like chrom and rayn are set on Gb, town cant really function. That and I might have just been wrong about him T_T

I have one more potential scum read, but at this point the well becomes pretty foggy and there's no point calling up a shitstorm when I don't have any hard evidence.

I will say that if Onegu and hopeless arent both scum, then someone here has been playing a really good game. Which means were in trouble ) : If we want a certain lynch, these two would probally be best. But it might too much for town to function until we've cleared Gb so hes the other choice / :

Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first.
Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him.



I didnt waste my vote. People said they were down to shennanie on to him. BH and ritoky. If some more people wanted to go I wanted them to be able and lynch scum.

I am really kinda feeling Xata is scum with hopeless now. Like he was all ok yeah we can lynch him, then no we have to be safe. He really waffled on it and felt really weird to me.

And yes me and hopeless are both scum, that makes perfect sense...
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:54 GMT
#2568
I could have yolo'd onto Hopeless, but there was nobody else going onto Hopeless and we were at least guaranteeing yamato's lynch, so....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
October 27 2015 17:57 GMT
#2569
On October 28 2015 02:52 Xatalos wrote:
And now I'm depressed after reading the last pages of marv's filter...

I guess I was a bit too persistent in arguing with him though, overall. Neither of our attitudes were really too productive in those moments.

The points with Chromatically gave me some renewed concern. It's also a bit uncomfortable how rayn soft defended him, then marv went to see for himself and showed it wrong... Why would town rayn give that defense then in the first place?

Not sure how you got ritoky = scum though Vivax? I agree he's been less and less noteworthy over time, but... Did marv ever suspect him?


The way he asked me about why I bitched about Chrom's play felt passive aggressive to me and when he replied to me asking him why he'd ask me (cause the only reason he would possibly have asked me was that he found it suspicious), he basically replied in a way I felt was defensive. As if he didn't want to get into any trouble for his question in the first place.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
October 27 2015 17:59 GMT
#2570
On October 27 2015 04:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:24 Vivax wrote:
I have no clue what Chrom is doing.


trying to lynch his top mafia read who he made a decent case on who has done nothing to deserve a town read and who's only defense has been "i'm not mafia". what are you doing?


On October 27 2015 05:37 ritoky wrote:
cuz it struck me as odd. the guy has a scum read he has said he is over 90% confident in, he made probably the best case of the phase to try and compell people to vote on him; and it hasn't gotten traction. he keeps pushing it trying to get his top read killed....i guess what you said isn't odd in the context of "can you get out of your tunnel and talk about other stuff?" but idk, it just stuck out to me cuz i don't see a compelling reason to read GB town, i like chrom's case, GB's defense is "i am town, push to vote" which is crap tier; so calling out someone for really assertively trying to get him lynched doesn't seem.....i dunno it was just a wat? moment


Here
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 27 2015 18:01 GMT
#2571
Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first.
Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him.


No way you defend me like you did and say this, gumshoe. No way.
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
October 27 2015 18:03 GMT
#2572
On October 28 2015 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first.
Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him.


No way you defend me like you did and say this, gumshoe. No way.


Are you getting paid to call obvious townies scum this game, mafia, or just genuinely awful at this game?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:09 GMT
#2573
Hmmm....

I guess that's a bit of a weird reaction...

How sold are you on this dream team of rayn/Chromatically/ritoky? I still kind of feel like Onegu is scum, and he seems like a safe lynch tomorrow. Then again, I guess there's always the incomprehensible possibility that he's town and just plays like this... I guess he did play a bit similarly as town in that earlier game.... And marv liked him too... >.> I really don't want to believe it though...

Hopeless is pretty much a policy lynch...

I guess that team wouldn't be impossible. Least confident on ritoky maybe, but rayn can very easily be scum and Chromatically could be too, considering that weird soft defense of him by rayn (which actually fits him more with his scum meta here? - picking a target and continuing to push it through eternity).. hm... In that case I'd want to lynch rayn first of all though.

All of these 3 have wanted GB dead so I guess that's a point for GB?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:14 GMT
#2574
You're not making your position any easier by calling Vivax and gumshoe scum though GB :/ If you're actually town, you need to look at things objectively, and see that they have both made around the most good posts in this game (I'll admit that even though I have vastly the most posts, they both have more actually helpful posts probably). They were also both invested in how to handle the D2 lynch... Same with BH... And just overall they're one of the few positive forces pushing scumhunting in this game full of hate and trolling. You could really use just taking a step back and consider the situation calmly, like you saw that I was town from my meta, and see that Vivax's scum meta is way more inactive and useless than this, and I doubt gumshoe has ever played this well before even as town...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:16 GMT
#2575
Tbh I think GB might just be in an extremely defensive/paranoid stance atm... Kind of like I was regarding marv at one point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:20 GMT
#2576
I really don't see what scum GB would achieve by pushing consensus townies... Seems too suicidal and "solo-centric" (alone against the conspiracy of hidden scum or something). Bad nonetheless, but I can't really blame him too much looking at how I slightly suspected marv too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:20 GMT
#2577
hm..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:22 GMT
#2578
GB, I think gumshoe was basing a good part of his defense for you on how he scumread yamato and how his flip would clear you. Now that yamato flipped town, it makes sense for him to reconsider you, right?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:23 GMT
#2579
Maybe I just wish I was townsiding (with GB) and marv was scumsiding (with rayn) D1..... If that's not the case, I'll be a bit sad at my play there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 18:26 GMT
#2580
GB: If I die, will you promise to drop your suspicions of Vivax/gumshoe for tomorrow and sheep them? For me? I'm like 99% certain they're both town and neither even really wants to lynch you right now. But if you keep that up, it would just end up with you being lynched tomorrow.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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