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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2015 07:27 gumshoe wrote: this is like, absolutely beyond me. Lynching rayn here is insane. yeah, many people were scumreading rayn and, on top of that, he was contributing almost nothing (and in fact anti-contributing whenever he was having a shitfest/ rage fury). I am loathe to speculate on NK outcomes, because of all the ways it can be WIFOM (And it often literally is) but, does perhaps this mean scum is happy with the current arrangment of lynches? I can't imagine any reason to silence rayn, except perhaps to make town operate a bit more smoothly on its current path | ||
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##vote: onegu | ||
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On October 28 2015 07:34 gumshoe wrote: "you know we should kill bh, but fuck it, I really dont wanna to play another day with Rayn" Is the only explanation that makes sense to me... I cant believe rayns bitchy play came full circle and actually HELPED town. He was was such a bother for both factions that he wound up functioning as an honorary BG for Bh...wow, just wow. Like, in a way, I'm really happy rayn is dead, even if it means one more townie is gone. it means we don't have to listen to him any more. He somehow took a bullet! Thanks, rayn. Thanks for being dead. Even better, he can't respond here when I say: rayn, it's so good that you're dead. so good. hue | ||
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On October 28 2015 08:00 Xatalos wrote: Well I guess they either just wanted to improve their own enjoyment of the game... Or maybe there's some deeper reason? Like GB/ritoky are scum or scum wanted to frame them? Dunno... A theory bouncing around in my head is scum saw me gearing up to lynch 1Gu and thought "good". I don't feel like I should abandon my legitimate scumread just based on that, though. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote: I Know 0_0 its hard not to overthink this. I think the onegu, gb, hopeless train was pretty set last night. If scum liked that lineup, they wouldnt have done anything to rock the boat is my guess. This shot makes me think scum wanted us to read into it and alter course? maybe? Unless the reasoning was the trolly one I mentioned earlier XD Ironically I feel a bit better about the direction town is taking, so barring something crazy, my vote is safe where it is. Yeah so like there's two theories here. Theory 1. The H1 1G GB wagon train was running strong. Scum looks at this and is like "this a great train. Let's let it run" and shoot rayn. Probably rayn rather than someone else who's not a leader cause a silent rayn is a significantly more pleasant rayn. Theory 2. The H1 1G GB wagon train is running strong, and cannot be stopped no matter what. Scum figure their only chance is to confuse us by acting like they like the train and shooting someone irrelevant. They shoot rayn since, obviously, a silent rayn is an infinitely more pleasant rayn. I think our best strategy is to assume that Theory 2 is correct and push forward with lynches on those guys today. I feel confident in my reads, and my VCA supports that as a possibility, especially 1Gu. If it turns out we're wrong on this, we can revisit things, since we have one more mislynch of breathing room. I don't think the right response here is to undo all our scumreads. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2015 08:15 Xatalos wrote: I wonder... rayn's death kind of implicates GB though... Since he was one of the pro-Onegu, anti-GB faction... :/ Eh, that's true i suppose, but we probably shouldn't read THAT much into it? It's not like rayn was gonna singlehandedly keep Onegu alive On October 28 2015 08:19 Xatalos wrote: GB is also a more controversial figure... So there could be more information from him... Assuming that whoever we lynch flips scum, I think 1Gu is a better choice since people have talked about him at least a decent amount and we need to deal with him regardless. If whoever we lynch flips town, and we need to go into the next day with a 100% scum lynch, it might be better to go for GB. That aside, though, we should just try to maximize our chance of flipping a scum player imo | ||
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On October 28 2015 08:38 Xatalos wrote: Hm... I think there could potentially still be scum within ritoky/Chromatically too. What do you think, BH? I think I'll go to sleep soon though.. Feels like it would be a huge (unnecessary) risk to lynch one of them today. Off the bat I don't think we should be lynching into ritok/chromatically, but based on the NK and stuff in general I need to re-evaluate. Once I'm back at a computer I'll crank out analysis on the triumvirate and anyone else I find suspicious. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2015 09:11 gumshoe wrote: Kk lets play a game, avoid all the meta, all the bullshit, lets talk about what the one thing the Rayn kill actually tells us. You get two obvious hints for this riddle 1) baring a modkill scum NEEDS two mislynches to win. 2) scum have not yet forfeited. So what is the one thing the Rayn kill actually tells us? Super townie points to the one who figures it out : D bonus question, how does the answer help us find scum : D only one scum in GB/1G/H1 | ||
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Like, the obvious answer is "scum wants us to just lynch through GB/1G/H1" but a) that doesn't mean 1G is actually town b) surely scum would know I would figure out "scum just wants us to lynch thoruhg Gb/1G/H1" because of how STRANGE the rayn kill is. They must have known this conversation would happen, right? | ||
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On October 28 2015 09:27 gumshoe wrote: Your thinking about this wrong. It doesn't matter who would kill rayn, the kill is nonsensical, it was unoptimal no matter how you look at it, as he was dividing town through sheer precence. The real question is, what is the one fact that the rayn kill DOES tells us about scum? Regardless of who it is that killed rayn, what do we now know about them? ...they hate rayn? | ||
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Blazinghand
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...they want to silence rayn? come on man the socratic method sucks | ||
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On October 28 2015 09:31 ritoky wrote: i very real portion of me wants to lynch xata and not read an ounce of his defense. might just be the spite inside me. Tell me about Xata, then, cause i've had him in the "he's probably town, ignore him" box in my head for the past 72 hours. Or link me to your case if you're so convinced. | ||
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On October 28 2015 09:32 gumshoe wrote: Super Nope, ill give it up in five minutes XD see if you can get it before then. OH OKAY ONE META LEVEL DEEPER Rayn was super wrong about everything, and they want us to THINK they wanted us to silence rayn, and they assumed we'd read and follow his reads, which are all wrong and would lead to disaster! | ||
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On October 28 2015 09:33 ritoky wrote: well if the answer isn't "content with state of game" or "kill the people who they are scared of solving vs universal TRs" or "our PoE list is probably wrong" then idk what conclusion you can make. maybe that i am sexy irl. that's always a satisfactory conclusion FWIW you are sexy irl | ||
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On October 08 2015 16:30 Rels wrote: 7. No lynch is not allowed. Self voting is allowed. Mafia not using their shot is allowed. NVM mafia can hold fire | ||
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On October 28 2015 09:35 gumshoe wrote: remember the "beyond the meta, beyond the bullshit " line ? so nope agian : P one more try each as of this post. I dunno dude all my explanations sounded Gr9 to me Gr9 is like Gr8 but it's one more because of how good it is | ||
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