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Just to make it clear exactly why my suspicions were aroused on rsoultin, in posts that literally no-one can have missed at the start of my filter:
On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you?
On September 29 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you? truffle specifically is slow on the uptake boring me, marv your calling people awful and calling stuff boring just makes you look scummy
On September 29 2015 17:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:36 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
-squints at-
so i'm wondering how early is too early to start reading into people setting up moving votes to me later ^^ scum will be in there somewhere It is never too early especially when you point out something relatively inconsequential in a half serious post where I list 3 other people besides you. kudos for nonsense never too early to start suspecting people saying they could lynch me meets your post is inconsequential and not serious how? are you or are you not scumreading the people in your list? -sighs- My post was what I was thinking, but I phrased it in a joking manner. I just find it strange that you're picking out one bit about yourself in a post that was phrased jokingly especially when I mention that one other person that you're townreading (Trfel) is scummy in my eyes. ^ I was just phrasing that bit sarcastically. then it wasn't inconsequential and it was serious, now wasn't it? see i'm watching this pretty mislynch forming up and i'm seeing who is taking advantage, cause otherwise they have to shoot me ^^ it's still probably early for that, though the soft scumreads still don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about you, especially when you try to downplay them like you just did ^ mafia paranoia
On September 29 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote:
i'm just gonna tunnel rsoultin till she makes posts she can't make as mafia, which she always does as town
she has not yet.
yet rsoultin describes my push as asinine because it was only about wanting her to post stuff she only does as town.
Well, yes, of course, but it's pretty obvious from what came before that isn't why i put her vote on her. I put my vote on her BEFORE i made the comment about making townie posts
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also, the fact remains that rsoultin hasn't made a single post that she can't make as mafia. i'd be happy for someone to prove me wrong, but "tone" isn't good enough.
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mm that rsoultin stuff is damning
going to finish catching up then will fact check your posts
if she really turned around her read on you based on nothing, she's probably mafia running out of targets to scumread
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The massive switch is definitely part of it. It's also the way it's framed. Putting the responsibility on Damdred for Damdred's hard townread on me when she previously supposedly had one. My posts being good enough for a top 2 townread into describing me as a non-entity. Describing her vote on me as having had the desired reaction because it made me react and look town (where did that go?). Describing my push on her at the start of the game in a way that puts what I did in a very bad light, and a very incorrect light.
I would think if she was suddenly suspicious of me (as town) she would at least have CHECKED, cursorily, the reasons for my mafiaread on her at the start of the game, but no. Instead it's "asinine" (when it wasn't)
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On September 30 2015 19:08 Rels wrote:
mm that rsoultin stuff is damning
going to finish catching up then will fact check your posts
if she really turned around her read on you based on nothing, she's probably mafia running out of targets to scumread
also this is very much a thing. i know she has problems scumreading townies when she is mafia.
i may or may not check this at some point, but there have been a lot of townreads thrown around kinda lazily. so maybe you added to my case too.
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On September 30 2015 11:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait..... @Trfel is this a serious post if it is I find super weird the fact that most posts before and after this one are funny posts OK after I finish catching up I'll do a Trfel's filter dive to check if my feeling is right. But I definitely have the feeling there is a contradiction in tone progression in Trfel's posts, something like funny => one serious => funny => one serious => funny If you think that me alternating between being serious or funny is a sign that I am mafia, then I have no more words for you. To be honest, depending on how that's applied, it's probably the easiest way to read me. Since apparently I wasn't clear: I started out by voting rsoultin as a joke. Then I started being a bit suspicious of rsoultin, but not enough that I wanted to actually push it (at least until I reread things). Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more). Clear enough?
Yeah I agree the funny / serious change is not scum indicative, I've dropped it in my compilation case on you. Read it; I explained why your read on rsoultin is super weird, because there is a step missing in your resume, just here:
" Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. *THEN I FOUND ANOTHER REASON TO SCUMREAD HER * So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more)."
Since you seem to be catching up, I suppose you have answered my big post later
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On September 30 2015 11:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:On September 30 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote:On September 30 2015 11:39 LightningStrike wrote:On September 30 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: Tfrel ??? Did you not read the fact I like the case on Tfrel? Please direct me to this incredibly amazingly wonderful case on me? Rels case plus what others had said about you. Then I'm assuming you are referring to the one I quoted earlier. That case is absolute garbage. The claim that Rels makes is that LightningStrike's posts to that point actively pushed the game forward. The thing is, pushing the game forward early in the game can be rather difficult to do, and most people can't do it (even when they try). I know that I can't do it, but I'll keep trying anyway, largely because it's fun. LightningStrike's posts didn't drive the game forward. Of the posts that Rels quoted that he claims show that LightningStrike pushed the game forward, the following posts do nothing of the sort: + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version) As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background. I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it. But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it. I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music. I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking). Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs. One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece  ): TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched! Asking for TLDR does not drive the game forward. Saying you are town does not drive the game forward. Saying you want to lynch scum does not drive the game forward. On September 29 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version) As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background. I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it. But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it. I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music. I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking). Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs. One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ): TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched! TLDR: yada yada music yada not posting cause music yada yada Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia. Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread. ##vote rsoultin Policy lynching her already? Oh please I thought that post was funny from her lol. Basically saying "Policy lynching rsoultin is bad". But he's not actually saying anything about my (Trfel's) alignment here, or anything about rsoultin (other than not wanting to policy lynch her at this time). On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest..... He doesn't say anything about Damdred's alignment at all. He just comments. What these posts have in common is that they don't drive the thread forward or contribute towards any reads. They're just commenting without taking a stance. CLARIFICATION: I do NOT think that these posts are scummy or bad. While they don't drive the thread forward, they don't hurt town at all. In fact, LightningStrike's early posting suggests that he is town, so that is useful. But that doesn't change the fact that Rels' claim is simply wrong. The other two posts that Rels quoted are where LightningStrike asks a question about rsoultin's stance on Damdred: + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.
Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny
and like walks
Please apply for my townfriend :/ if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled you wound me deep, damdy deep Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that? On September 29 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.
Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny
and like walks
Please apply for my townfriend :/ if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled you wound me deep, damdy deep Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that? nope Then what were you implying there? Which I suppose can maybe be seen as driving the thread forward, but not very strongly. It's essentially just a question for clarification. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:21 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest..... If you don't like the direction that the thread is going in, shouldn't you do something about it instead of just commenting? This post. This is NOT a scumread. I was trying to tell LightningStrike that if he wants the thread to be a certain way, and to have a certain direction/atmosphere, then he should try to create that atmosphere. He could produce some reads with actual explanations, for example. Note that at this point, LightningStrike had actually made zero reads. This isn't driving the thread forward. Again, LightningStrike's posting wasn't bad by any means, I was trying to encourage him to do more (in the primary definition of the word, the positive one). Basically, Rels' case has no grounds whatsoever, and completely misinterprets LightningStrike's early posts and my post towards him. I am not sure if it makes him mafia or not, but I really don't like it.
Mm OK. I took your reply to LS as an attack. If it was an invitation to continue being serious then I may have overreacted.
But this is not the strong point of my push against you. Your rsoultin's read is.
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On September 30 2015 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mmm.. agreed on rsoultin
why are you finding it so hard to read me town this game?
is it just paranoia from the last game?
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On September 30 2015 13:08 Trfel wrote:
Rels, if you'd actually like an explanation for my read progression on rsoultin, let me know and I can provide it.
I do, because it doesn't make sense to me. I'll copy paste what I wrote earlier, with an addition near the end:
The timeline is the following:
A - rsoultin is scum for having a weird reaction to Trfel's first post and not leading the thread forward. I thought this vote was a joke, but apparently not.
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version) As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background. I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it. But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it. I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music. I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking). Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs. One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ): TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched! TLDR: yada yada music yada not posting cause music yada yada Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia. Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread. ##vote rsoultin
B - rsoultin is scum for ???
On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait.....
C - rsoultin is not scum anymore
On September 29 2015 09:38 Trfel wrote:
Basically my argument against rsoultin kind of doesn't work. I assumed that rsoultin had a certain reason for doing stuff and had a certain interpretation of why I was asking what I asked, but I was wrong.
So basically I dunno.
step added to the timeline
D - actually Trfel remembered another reason to scumread rsoultin!
On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< OH YEAH that was my argument! Thank you for reminding me! Never mind, it's still somewhat valid.
E - rsoultin is scum for focusing too much on Trfel's and GB's "baits" ... I think
On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument  Wow, I'm really bad at this.
I don't understand this rsoultin read progression. It really feels like Trfel decided rsoultin was scum but had a hard time finding the reason why. It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.
On September 30 2015 13:17 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 22:45 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 22:40 marvellosity wrote:It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy. how often do you see examples of mafia actually scumreading someone and then making themselves look really stupid with the subsequent explanations? not often i wager sure mafia decide who they are going to town/mafiaread for strategic purposes, but they then usually decide the reasons as well so what happened to Trfel doesn't happen i grant you it's a strange thing, but you're not selling its scummyness to me right now I agree it's stupid. It is the most likely explanation though; how do you explain town Trfel keeping his rsoultin scumread even after admitting his first reason was bad ? I mean, his first reason was so bad I dismissed the post as a joke. The only explanation for town Trfel to do that is if he is joking with rsoultin, like getting her angry on purpose for humour. Let me help you out a bit. Skype conversation with rsoultin, about an hour before the game started. "you know i'm actually going to lynch you day 1 ^^" "i feel like if i actually push you all day during the game it would get on your nerves eventually but then again you're going to roll mafia, so maybe that's not so bad XD"
OK that's what your first scumread looked like, happy to have read that correctly. (=
So you've explained A (teasing), B and C steps (having a bad reason to scumread her, then realizing it's bad).
But I don't understand the D and E steps. That cannot be explained by teasing ? You say "my read on rsoultin was bad", then "Oh I forgot another reason I had to scumread her!", then "yeah that was that reason too! ... but actually that's not super good". What is the explanation for that ?
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On September 30 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:why are you finding it so hard to read me town this game? is it just paranoia from the last game?
I think you are town, have thought so after i said "fair enough".
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On September 30 2015 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mmm.. agreed on rsoultin why are you finding it so hard to read me town this game? is it just paranoia from the last game? I think you are town, have thought so after i said "fair enough".
kill rsoultin with me
much sweeter lynch than scott
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ok, if you're still sure about it tomorrow we can lynch scott
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The truth is i haven't paid any attention to what rsoultin actually says due to me thinking she is mafia anyways based on last couple of games. If this game had happened a month ago i would have been all yelling to her for the "Damdred's conclusion is factually correct".
Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl.
Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing.
##unvote
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On September 30 2015 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
ok, if you're still sure about it tomorrow we can lynch scott
this is a read that will not change, ever.
and i am 100% sure about him being mafia.
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On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote:
RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads
damdy
rayn
marv
Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote:
eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote
##vote: rsoultin
OK I fact checked that and it's true. Marv didn't post anything between rsoultin's townread of him and the "marv didn't push anything worth Damdy" post. Later she lists marv as one of the three lynch candidates from her POV.
That doesn't make sense. rsoultin voted marv at the beginning of the game to pressure him. Then when marv did stuff, she put it in the "strong townread" category, before putting him in the "I would lynch him" category 1h30 later when marv DID NOT POST A THING BETWEEN.
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On September 30 2015 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The truth is i haven't paid any attention to what rsoultin actually says due to me thinking she is mafia anyways based on last couple of games. If this game had happened a month ago i would have been all yelling to her for the "Damdred's conclusion is factually correct".
Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl.
Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing.
##unvote
##vote rsoultin
even though it's just a lot of bitching, i do like this post.
because it points out a lot of things that i also thought (shining, sl, "tone reads", LS, Trfel)
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