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On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.
Where did I claim that ? I sheep all the time, I just fact check when I'm not sure
I don't know what to answer, your timeline is exactly right. About the intensity, marv's post did not put coolTLname at 30, but more like 60, hence why I didn't switch even though I had doubts, and would have probably ended up still on him at deadline
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On October 02 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 23:24 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells
it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia. i don't know why you want to claim otherwise. because he said something like "GB you are known for not reading the thread" yesterday who the fuck cares. he has played a game before. do you think he smurfed back then in a newbie game then now came back and smurfed again?
no no no
I think he's a lurker reader
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On October 02 2015 23:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 23:24 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells
it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia. i don't know why you want to claim otherwise. because he said something like "GB you are known for not reading the thread" yesterday who the fuck cares. he has played a game before. do you think he smurfed back then in a newbie game then now came back and smurfed again? no no no I think he's a lurker reader
actually you made me see the first comment, and I was the one being like "well he has joined another newbie game"
now that he had made a second comment of the same type, it cannot be a coincidence
he knew GB and I are not the best players in the game
he knew GB usually doesn't read properly the thread. Even I didn't know that, but he said it
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On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
anyway I think coolTLname is scum because he's either a smurf or a lurker reader
his two comments about GB proves it
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells
the doubts I have is because we're starting to be in the same situation as yesterday: almost everybody is OK lynching him, so it is mislynch or a bus. I think only rsoultin (and maybe Trfel ?) are not OK lynching him.
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On October 02 2015 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what the fuck is a lurker reader?
someone reading games but not posting or playing
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This is the second slip:
On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..  3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread? OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him
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On October 02 2015 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what the fuck is a lurker reader? someone reading games but not posting or playing mmm and you think this is possible given how he approached the game early on?
not as town no
I think he played dumb with his questions and his reads
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That's what I want to check when I filter dive him though
But I distincly remember his second post to be super useless questions
That could be explained by newbieness, but if he is, how does he know GB is not a thread reader, and that GB and I are not the more experiences players ?
Tonight I will confirm that
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rayn when did rsoultin said she would be back with reread ?
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BTW
I didn't really agree with your whole post about since you were not killed, so you were right
I think marv was an obvious kill because everybody townread him, that's it
It doesn't say anything about you being right I think. Or wrong for that matter
Unless you're scum p:
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On October 02 2015 23:46 rsoultin wrote:Later tonight before I go to bed. I told you all this at eod so yeah XP But rayn is town, sl prob town though his reasoning isn't perfect I think the look into others while lynching me thing from cool is rather townie And trfel is currently my top suspect 
OK
I can understand rayn saying you don't have scumreads, but you were busy D1 defending yourself
So I'm waiting for you to prove him wrong later
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On October 02 2015 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:So here it is. Please read the whole thing because it's actually relevant to this game in other ways aswell. First i give you some examples; A while ago i tried to convince a town to lynch someone because they said "this guy is scum because he is pocketing rayn, but i don't think rayn is necessarily town". You might remember the game... I don't actually think anyone in the game really got my reasoning for why it was obvious the guy was mafia, while it was like "i have this pie here. i am eating it with my spoon. If i have taken away the spoon from the table, it's impossible that guy ate the pie with a spoon. If he claims so afterwards, he is a liar." Really obvious? Mmmm.. apparently it wasn't. Some year(s) ago i made a case on a guy who did the following; First they called someone out on p20. Then afk. Then i asked for their case. They said: "Here is my case [reasoning from page 30-40]". It is obvious that the dude is mafia because it's literally impossible he has thought someone is scum on p20 if his case doesn't have a simple scummy thing on that guy before p20. Seems like a simple thing? Mmm.. guess what, i had to argue for about 20 pages why it is obvious, hell MAFIA ARGUED FOR ME (yes, his scumbuddies) why it is obvious that guy is mafia. I had to draw a fucking mspaint picture to clarify why it is impossible the dude is NOT lying because apparently my words are somehow unclear... Now let's go to this game, i have a couple of examples. The first one, maybe easier to understand is this: rayn: TLname the votes piled up on you because scott claimed TLname: no, i had 7 votes before scott claimed rayn: [here is proof why you are lying] rayn: explain TLname: ...... ..... TLname: i had 7 votes before scott / damdred / cc rayn: it does not work like that, explain why you are lying rsoultin:On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-
he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn
between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch the thing here is that [u]was not the original argument. I consider rsoultin one of the smartest people in this game. If one of the smartest people fails to realize / doesn't even care what i write / (or twists things around which i believe is the case here -- and noone even calls her out for it) in the first place, how am i supposed to think other people do? Another one: J Roc: rayn bussed sicklucker here rayn: i don't unnecessary bus and everyone knows it, this would be an unnecessary bus, so you are just straight out lying Trfel: but rayn you bus Damdred: yeah you bussed there in the game Trfel pointed out. rayn: what the fuck is this bullshit Damdred, you were in the game?!?!? rsoultin: Damdred is factually correct.In fact Damdred is NOT factually correct here. Even if he believes i unnecessary bussed there, that is not the point. The point is the I DON'T BELIEVE IT and i have clearly expressed it in many occasions. The question becomes to; "rayn himself thinks he doesn't unnecessary bus. would this interaction with sl here be an unnecessary bus in his opinion? If yes, then J Roc's "case" is invalid. If no, then rayn could be mafia for what J Roc says". And that was the point of the argument, not if anyone else than me does/doesn't think if i unnecessary bussed in some other game. I can understand someone having a different view from the XXX game, but saying "Damdred's argument is factually correct" is just bullshit, because it doesn't have anything to with the original argument.
It brings me to this: If i get shot here the following will happen. My reads are proven to be legit, as in a sense that i actually believe in what i am saying (as in i am confirmed not mafia). When this happens, me, and everyone knows marv WILL actually go read what i wrote about people and will evaluate if he thinks i was right or not. He definitely did not do that during N1, so actually NOONE knows where he stood by the end of the night phase. Marv is way more persuasive than i am. It is a fact, just because apparently my writing skills are the poorest on this site and often times i have to yell my lynches through -- which makes people ignore me. Marv also understands me. Therefore, if marv dies - regardless of if i am right or not - mafia has a person (rayn) alive, who is way more easier to ignore/discredit/what the fuck ever people are always doing than marv is. 100%. And that is the reason why marv dying does not make me "wrong" like you suggest here GB. If i am 100% right on my reads and they are good, marv will read them in case i die, and it is 100% more likely he actually believes me than any other person in the game and actually gets those people lynched. You remember a game where obi was Mafia and he got to LYLO after we lynched FirmTofu and clarity? In that game you've caught rsoultin in a failure of thought process similar here. She was town. I understand everything you're saying here. I'm just asking you to take a step back and listen to rsoultin. You won't lose time by trying to see her coming from a town perspective. I understand what you get from the night kill but you know that Mafia could simply say "ok people are on the right track, kill Marv and keep Rayn alive". It is possible. For instance, the shining could be Mafia. Marv was the only one looking into him. Maybe he is.And maybe Moosy is Mafia. You also agree he has been shady. And if all of this is correct, neither rsoultin and LS are Mafia. And you were on the wrong track. I'm just simply asking you to reconsider things. We are already lynching cool TL today. We don't have to start a holy crusade yet [/i]
that is interesting
OK added to my TODO list tonight: list marv's reads. Or fact check if somebody arleady did it
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On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So: A. he's not reading the thread clearly B. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.
you're lying
I never said you not being here at EOD was scum indicative. I said GB being here at EOD and not switching was town indicative because he would have shut up at EOD; then remarked it was ironic since you did exactly that.
I'm attacking you on two things:
- your GB's EOD analysis is bullshit
- you lied about being the first to vote and push coolTLname
Now the problem I have with you as scum is that you would be busing coolTLname D1, which I don't think is likely. Hence why I'm not sure about you.
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really Moosy
I don't know your alignement
But I want you to get rid of this "Rels is attacking me for not being here at EOD"
So either accept it, or reread the part of the thread where it happened
If you attack me again with that I will get you lynched
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leaving work now so see you soon
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On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.
What were you talking about then ?
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On October 03 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:
really Moosy
I don't know your alignement
But I want you to get rid of this "Rels is attacking me for not being here at EOD"
So either accept it, or reread the part of the thread where it happened
If you attack me again with that I will get you lynched Also Rels bb, there's absolutely no need to be so anti-town with language like this. Either way, do you think your threats will sway me when I've stared into the bottomless abyss that is rayn's tunnel?
you're annoying me because I have the proof you lied about something, but you're probably town if coolTLname is scum
I'm annoyed by town attacking me with bullshit
Don't attack me with false arguments and everything will be OK
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On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check.
Can you answer my request
I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT
Yes or no ?
If no, what is it pointing at ?
AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then
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On October 03 2015 01:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:03 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:
really Moosy
I don't know your alignement
But I want you to get rid of this "Rels is attacking me for not being here at EOD"
So either accept it, or reread the part of the thread where it happened
If you attack me again with that I will get you lynched Also Rels bb, there's absolutely no need to be so anti-town with language like this. Either way, do you think your threats will sway me when I've stared into the bottomless abyss that is rayn's tunnel? you're annoying me because I have the proof you lied about something, but you're probably town if coolTLname is scum I'm annoyed by town attacking me with bullshit Don't attack me with false arguments and everything will be OK My alignment is in no way confirmed town by your own "proof" btw. Also, have you read my explanation for your "proof" or have you not read that either?
you tried to gain the credit of voting first and pushing first coolTLname
you sheep Shining's analysis and associated yourself with him
these things are scum indicative, of course you are going to explain them after. Do not change the fact you did them
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