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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:55 GMT
#2296
DAMDRED ARE YOU CCING SCOTT
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:56 GMT
#2302
##Unvote
##Vote scott31337
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:58 GMT
#2312
On October 01 2015 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking idiots. i am literally now calling all of you idiots.
i called it fucking so fuck fuck fuck.
did i say fuck?

YOU FUCKING DID
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 22:17 GMT
#2334
FUCK
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 22:23 GMT
#2341
going to sleep
won't be active tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 19:49 GMT
#2620
On October 01 2015 14:22 Trfel wrote:
I can't sleep.............

I'm willing to assume that marvellosity is town.

If rsoultin is town, I guess I'll trust her read on raynpelikoneet here. Just for simplicity. So raynpelikoneet is town, regardless of rsoultin's alignment.

There were several posts that rsoultin made where the tone strongly suggested to me that she is town. My tone reads are terrible, but combine that with some general impressions I got from a Skype chat a while back about mafia, and that she doesn't really like playing mafia, and that if she is mafia she would have been extremely frustrated by raynpelikoneet, it just seems like rsoultin is town. Except for the push on GlowingBear. That's the most significant problem I have with rsoultin at this point, I just cannot see any of the things that she says about GlowingBear. And while I didn't prove any inconsistencies in her thought process, I wasn't completely satisfied by her explanations (notably the explanation with regards to her early read on sicklucker)...

I still want to townread LightningStrike for his early posting, but excuses or no, his posting patterns did fit a mafia motivation.... He got townread by post people early on, and then his activity levels dropped off sharply. I don't like him asking to get lynched instead of rsoultin, but I'm not convinced that it is mafia indicative I suppose. I guess he's probably just town.....

I don't know about Rels. Sometimes he seems reasonable, but I feel that he lacks thread presence. Which is strange because he actually has a fairly long filter. And some of his posts I remember thinking were very unreasonable. I need to figure out why I don't feel much thread presence from him, it may just be that he's being covered up by marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, and rsoultin, or there may be a more interesting reason.

I don't really know about MoosyDoosy and sicklucker. I don't feel confident in reading either of them, their thought process differs so much from my own. I feel like sicklucker's been townread a lot for bad reasons, though... Apparently there was a sicklucker smurf game recently? I thought that the smurf was not sicklucker, though?

Quotes please.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 19:56 GMT
#2622
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:01 GMT
#2624
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

That is just false.
*I* was the first to push for coolTLname's lynch.
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.

*I* was the first to vote for him.
On October 01 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:
alright leaving work super soon. Voting coolTLname for this:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 05:52 Rels wrote:
still this more or less:
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.

without the Moosy part
Plus he has refused to explain his weird GF read on you, so I cannot know if he has a reasonning behind it
Plus he's clearly trolling, I don't know why a town under suspicion would act like that. But Dandel did exactly that last game, so that makes me wary of lynching him


We didn't talk about him a lot recently, but I haven't forgot him. I want to see rsoultin's case on GB though, the thing about Damdred's meta being wrong on purpose.
See you!

##Unvote
##Vote coolTLname

Then GB voted him a few hours later:
On October 01 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
##unvote
##vote coolTLname


Then YOU voted for him a few hours later:
On October 01 2015 05:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote coolTLname


So this sentence is bullshit: "GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:04 GMT
#2625
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#2627
On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?

OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:11 GMT
#2629
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

that was my feeling too
after that, it doesn't make sense that his conclusions on GB's EOD is "he must be mafia busing coolTLname"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:12 GMT
#2631
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:17 GMT
#2633
On October 02 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.

maybe
but it's not really true that she doesn't have reads, she have strong townreads that she stated several times
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:20 GMT
#2638
On October 02 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:
OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read.

how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you?

I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter.


You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for.

Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR.

that's nit picking, he surely meant that rsoultin have the most posts in the game
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:22 GMT
#2640
On October 02 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not to even mention... in over 20 pages of filter.
Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting?

I don't know, she was scumreading me and reversed that when she saw I was making sense. That shows she s re evaluting, and not just looking for X scumreads to place. And she also was scumreading scott who claimed blue.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:24 GMT
#2644
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

Your point on me is true, so I can't say anything about that. But if you think coolTLname is scum, this GB's read is retarded. He was trying to get people to lynch coolTLname over scott! If he was mafia he would shut up and let things happen
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:26 GMT
#2648
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID

lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.

I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:29 GMT
#2655
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

I probably pushed coolTLname more than you. Even if that's not the case, I was the first the suspect him, and I voted him before leaving work, 5 hours before you
More than that, I don't understand you saying to GB "maybe you don't realize, but I was the first to vote coolTLname" when GB voted him 2 HOURS BEFORE YOU
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:31 GMT
#2657
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID

lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.

I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott

Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:32 GMT
#2659
On October 02 2015 05:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:29 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

I probably pushed coolTLname more than you. Even if that's not the case, I was the first the suspect him, and I voted him before leaving work, 5 hours before you
More than that, I don't understand you saying to GB "maybe you don't realize, but I was the first to vote coolTLname" when GB voted him 2 HOURS BEFORE YOU

Woah calm down. Why is your response changing so much from this one?

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:24 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

Your point on me is true, so I can't say anything about that. But if you think coolTLname is scum, this GB's read is retarded. He was trying to get people to lynch coolTLname over scott! If he was mafia he would shut up and let things happen

There's no need to yell. Calm down.

what exactly is changing ?
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