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On October 12 2015 10:53 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 12 2015 10:40 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 10:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 10:08 -Celestial- wrote:On October 12 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote:
It's simple maths. Whoever doesn't fight or isn't angry by D3 is obvscum. Not necessarily true. In my first game I threw an absolute wobbler over Tubesock's Spanish Inquisition, claimed Doctor in an apparent fit of pique and then spent basically the rest of the game sulking; all of which got me out of a lynch and persuaded everyone not to lynch me the day after either. And I survived as Mafia RB. X-D Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him. But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF. Can you point out these logical counterarguments? Regardless of whether i agree with them or not, his point regarding getting both of his partners killed if my scumlist is correct is a good one. And his OO vote was something i did overlook when i scummed him, although i did explain how he could just switdh votes. But he did come off of OO pretty easily now that i look at it... Like i said. I still dont have warm fuzzies about him, my vote is still on him but it also makes perfectly good sense to lynch the guy who did nothing and then fucked off when most here know his potential as town. I only havent switched to marv because Fecal did, which means I'm wrong on one of them but I'm still hoping Marv can show up and clear it up. But at least FF is responding to pressure "I know I'm wrong on one" how do you know you're not wrong on both? If marv shows up and bleeds town how does that make me scum? Yeah yeah moose I'm doing the thing Because I'm just too good to be wrong on every single scumread I have.  Realistically I could be wrong on both but I just don't think I am. Him showing up and bleeding town doesn't make you scum, though. The points I've brought against you make you scum. Lelelelele
So how do you read FF? null? town? scum?
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On October 12 2015 10:49 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 12 2015 10:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 12 2015 10:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy. But you just said you didn't read the post... hur dur oh noes you totally caught me wow such semantics I literally said "I'm looking for my name" which, to me, implied that I was going to see how he read me. Seeing that I was beign read scum I looked at who else he called scum. I didn't even read WHY he called OO and marv scum okie that's what I expected although there's no reason to be so sarcastic over it. Please answer my other questions bb. @Shining, was there a slight intention to pocket me in that list post of yours? Because something about your segment on me rubs me the wrong way and I normally do like rubbing. Also how you're saying you like me as town. This must be payback for me accusing you of pocketing me last game. Well played. Nope. My pockets aren't deep enough to fit a Moose. I was just strengthening my town read on you. Considering you're not universally townread, I wouldn't have much reason to pocket you if I were scum, anyway. Thanks for asking though
Also what other response did you expect? What was the purpose of that post, Moosy? Do you think scum would ever openly admit to a pocketing attempt? How about you explain what exactly about my list post made you think I was pocketing? What sentence or line?
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On October 12 2015 08:24 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 08:10 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 08:00 ObviousOne wrote:On October 12 2015 07:40 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 07:35 ObviousOne wrote:On October 12 2015 07:34 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 07:26 Eversince wrote:
Mhmm, I'm goin' to save myself some time.
90% of your post is reiterated stuff that's adding nothin'.
I notice it, prod at you, and you proceed to get really mad.
Not the best picture we could of painted. Except no one knew you noticed it until right now because you said absolutely nothing of worth or value regarding my post. And how is it adding nothing? It added a player with reads into the game that had absolutely no posts or thoughts beforehand. I'm sorry that most of what I would've caught in the process of the game, I couldn't because I wasn't around. That was an amazing post regarding "so many things wrong" with my post. 10/10, would read again. Since nobody else is doing it, I'll ask you to get a nice post regarding who you think is mafia and a vote if applicable. Reads post has scumreads. Go read it. ##Vote: FecalFeastBecause I've got a case of the fuck its and I listed him first. I disagree almost entirely. Commentary inline Super underwhelming. Subjective, debatable, what is your expectation? You're repeating what he said about himself. I found his joke post of "worried about appearance obvious mafia" kind of ironic since he states in his very next post that Vivax is as underwhelming as he is, which shows he is quite aware of how he looks in-thread. Knowing how you look to others is how you get not lynched, or more importantly not mislynched. Also, most of his reads don't seem to lean very strongly either way which leaves a lot of wiggle room. Seems pretty convinced I'm mafia, even has his vote on me. Note this also means we're not likely to be mafia together, but it's also not impossible. Gums opening is awkward but not screaming scummy, wants OO to come back to confirm suspicion, Moosy is posting fine things but has the ability to play scum well. What do the previous things have to do with fecal's alignment? His eye is on vivax but he's just as bad. That's scumming yourself by default lol. That doesn't invalidate it as a scum read. And believing Vivaxs scum claim is just bad. I've seen vivax just roll over and die as scum but I haven't seen him outright claim it. Some people here will instalynch people who claim mafia. It's one of the easiest things you can do as mafia to create a why/why not discussion that distracts from legitimate talking points. I don't know if he's one of those people. No reads on half the game and yes, I even said that he said that about himself. He also said it about one of his scumread, Vivax. So by that logic, if its an acceptable thing to scum someone for, its an acceptable thing to scum him for. In my experience, scum is much more aware of how they look because their only goal is to survive. Town cares, or should care, less about surviving and how they look and spend more time on how OTHERS, namely scum, look. Reading his filter doesn't look like he's that convinced. If you think you found scum, you push it. I just see a vote and some meh posts regarding you. The next few lines were examples of Fecal's reads that didn't lean strong either way. How did you not realize that? No reads on half the game - you don't need to tell people your town reads, it's just not necessary and sometimes gives mafia ideas for who best to kill, the unlynchables. How he looks - he doesn't seem to care that he looks bad, just states that Vivax looks bad. He didn't make any effort to make himself look any better from what I can see. Maybe he wanted to honeytrap vivax into shaping up, in an effort to either get him to start taking the game mega-seriously for one reason or another. I'm aware of how I look -- it's pretty obvious from the votes and general sentiment and my level of participation, but I just have to look slightly better than the scummiest guy in the thread and I don't get mislynched and I also don't get shot at night which is a good skill to have if I ever want to be good at the mafia side of things. Which in retrospect sucks because that means I'll have to spend more time in-game but that's what I signed up for, after all. This game is alright so far. His vote on me - probably could be swung away to another wagon, you have that right. But that's telling us something about him. I wish I knew more about his general style of play to see if this is out of the ordinary for his town play, but I'm not invested enough to do the research. Someone said he wasn't particularly fecalfeasty but didn't really expand on that idea and I'd like to hear more in that vein if it's indeed true. Sometimes it's easy to overlook in analysis that we're working with imperfect information and while he's not committed to scum reads, he's also not defended anyone that I can remember. I may just be the best candidate in his mind, at the moment of posting. If he leaves it there I might be miffed, but again, something that could be telling in the future with better information (flips).
Not to mention the defense of me, I am pretty self centred. Besides, unless he's going for the hardest of pockets, he's defending me rather than pushing for my mislynch. Vivax is already on my case, shining with his pressure too. OO could have helped bury me but instead looks at it rationally and breaks down why shining's logic is flawed.
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On October 12 2015 07:33 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
You voted me . Scum will hold back from joke votes because it causes issues. you show you dont care about perception because a random vote in a newbie game will get many raised eyebrows.
Obviousone is gonna be mad idc about him
vivax stfu ill beat you up Just been going back through the thread. Why would I be mad? Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
The only curious thing I saw was sicklucker questioning eversince's motives or whatever. How he got any other impression than new around here and very earnest and enjoyable is totally beyond me Interesting thing for a (town)marv to do, there was no pressure or threat of pressure towards Eversince. I could see him doing this as town if he's genuinely impressed or interested in playing more games with someone like Eversince.
I could see (scum) marv might use this as a basis for pushing a (town)sicklucker but there's been no further indication that marv is even reading/playing right now. sicklucker had a pretty townie response to this, in rereading.The proceeding vivax-sicklucker interaction makes me like vivax less than originally thought. Still aware it was in the interim between silly and serious (if he made it to serious time again, haven't re-read that far). Sort of redeems himself with this post about the mental challenges many players including myself face when assigned a mafia team role.Also anyone who thinks that I'm scum with vivax and didn't decide in the mafia QT to have a laugh in the thread together and in general make distractions town playing the game is goofy, I didn't realize he's brought back some of his trolling when I signed up for this game but that's pretty much how I'd get my kicks this game. Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
For the record I'd like you to talk about the things wrong with the post, eversince, so I don't have to actually read it Yeah me neither. Kind of reminds me of the posts I saw about Onegu and myself written by Eversince. Lotta summary shit. TL;DR
This post, the bolded shows that he is considering both worlds for marv, though obviously is ultimately tipped toward scum because lolmarv.
Not only that but he doesn't like vivax and I am coming around to the idea of a vivax/marv/X team based on the lack of playing.
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ok well that was supposed to be 1 post but forgot to cut/paste sorry
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And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny
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On October 12 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:53 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 12 2015 10:40 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 10:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:On October 12 2015 10:08 -Celestial- wrote:On October 12 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote:
It's simple maths. Whoever doesn't fight or isn't angry by D3 is obvscum. Not necessarily true. In my first game I threw an absolute wobbler over Tubesock's Spanish Inquisition, claimed Doctor in an apparent fit of pique and then spent basically the rest of the game sulking; all of which got me out of a lynch and persuaded everyone not to lynch me the day after either. And I survived as Mafia RB. X-D Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him. But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF. Can you point out these logical counterarguments? Regardless of whether i agree with them or not, his point regarding getting both of his partners killed if my scumlist is correct is a good one. And his OO vote was something i did overlook when i scummed him, although i did explain how he could just switdh votes. But he did come off of OO pretty easily now that i look at it... Like i said. I still dont have warm fuzzies about him, my vote is still on him but it also makes perfectly good sense to lynch the guy who did nothing and then fucked off when most here know his potential as town. I only havent switched to marv because Fecal did, which means I'm wrong on one of them but I'm still hoping Marv can show up and clear it up. But at least FF is responding to pressure "I know I'm wrong on one" how do you know you're not wrong on both? If marv shows up and bleeds town how does that make me scum? Yeah yeah moose I'm doing the thing Because I'm just too good to be wrong on every single scumread I have. Realistically I could be wrong on both but I just don't think I am. Him showing up and bleeding town doesn't make you scum, though. The points I've brought against you make you scum. Lelelelele So how do you read FF? null? town? scum?
Is it not obvious I still think FF is scum? My vote is still on him and I continue to say he gives me no warm fuzzies. The only reason I think Marv is a better lynch is because it plays so perfectly into his scum meta and therefore gives us a higher chance of a scumflip because I could very well be wrong on FF. I just don't think I am.
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So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum.
And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne.
@FecalFeast, just one last question.
On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny
What is with this post?
On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.
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On October 12 2015 11:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum. And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne. @FecalFeast, just one last question. Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny What is with this post? Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.
I said previously that I would kill OO and marv, reads change. Which actually kinda fits shining's narrative where I can change my vote. Oh shit I'm thinking about how I appear again, better pretend I don't notice things like that or I'll get called scum
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On October 12 2015 11:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum. And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne. @FecalFeast, just one last question. Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny What is with this post? Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.
Welp you're getting knocked down a notch on my town list. I'm voting FF, not Marv. Because meta is unreliable but Marv is playing into his scum meta, whereas FF has given me reasons to scum him.
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On October 12 2015 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 11:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum. And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne. @FecalFeast, just one last question. On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny What is with this post? On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy. I said previously that I would kill OO and marv, reads change. Which actually kinda fits shining's narrative where I can change my vote. Oh shit I'm thinking about how I appear again, better pretend I don't notice things like that or I'll get called scum
Meh you changed your vote from one possible scummer to another. Your sarcasm does you no favors, either.
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On October 12 2015 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 11:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum. And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne. @FecalFeast, just one last question. On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny What is with this post? On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy. I said previously that I would kill OO and marv, reads change. Which actually kinda fits shining's narrative where I can change my vote. Oh shit I'm thinking about how I appear again, better pretend I don't notice things like that or I'll get called scum
You do realize that your "read changed" over the course of time that it took you to point out which of ObviousOne's posts that you liked? Did looking over them really change your mind from being okay with lynching him to townie?
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I feel like there's a misunderstanding here, what?
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The post you refeenced does not in any way imply that I was still scumreading OO at the time since it was referring the post shining made about me
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On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 10:08 -Celestial- wrote:On October 12 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote:
It's simple maths. Whoever doesn't fight or isn't angry by D3 is obvscum. Not necessarily true. In my first game I threw an absolute wobbler over Tubesock's Spanish Inquisition, claimed Doctor in an apparent fit of pique and then spent basically the rest of the game sulking; all of which got me out of a lynch and persuaded everyone not to lynch me the day after either. And I survived as Mafia RB. X-D Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him. But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF.
Then your vote is on FF when you think marv is a better lynch? You're not making sense right now.
##unvote
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On October 12 2015 11:08 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2015 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 12 2015 11:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:So Shining is voting for marv because he thinks marv is more scummy than FF although he believes that both are scum. And FF is voting for marv because he changed his read on ObviousOne. @FecalFeast, just one last question. On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny What is with this post? On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy. I said previously that I would kill OO and marv, reads change. Which actually kinda fits shining's narrative where I can change my vote. Oh shit I'm thinking about how I appear again, better pretend I don't notice things like that or I'll get called scum Meh you changed your vote from one possible scummer to another. Your sarcasm does you no favors, either.
I don't need any favours. I'm going to survive as a possible mislynch all game and end up in final 3 with sicklucker just like old times
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On October 12 2015 11:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I feel like there's a misunderstanding here, what?
This was your response to my initial question:
On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.
Did you not scum read ObviousOne at the time of this post?
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nope, I was referencing the initial confrontation between shining and I, not my current reads
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On October 12 2015 11:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
nope, I was referencing the initial confrontation between shining and I, not my current reads
Okay, thank you for your participation. Can I convince you for a Shining lynch?
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Possibly, I'm about 40 mins from closing shop however. Do you have a case or something other than compiling your filter? I'll read when I get home
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