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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 18:05 GMT
#912
unless there is some sort of emergency I am going to read through and give my thoughts on the latest developments
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 18:47 GMT
#924
Ok caught up. Here are my opinions on the major occurunces.

I think shining is clearly town, his first list post was very good and seemed to line up, mostly, with how I was reading the game. I think ES's response was pretty shit with her "reaction test" or whatever that was. Like you said the post had loads of things wrong with it and then didn't say anything about it,

The moosy-shining thing was a complete cluster fuck but it did give me some thoughts. There are situations where a townie is being piled on and people will come to their defence to gain credit. For me the people who were coming to his defence, in a round about way

On October 12 2015 08:15 Vivax wrote:
I like shining, he's like me when I get adrenaline injections


On October 12 2015 13:33 sicklucker wrote:
Like im pretty sure all of you are town. Make love not war


On October 12 2015 12:58 ObviousOne wrote:
When did the circus come into town?

Not wanting to vote for someone because one of your scum reads is voting for them, on day one, where a bus is largely unlikely, when you have a scum read on someone else that you consider equally valid, is totally okay in my book. This tunneling shining into rage is really out of this world. Wow. Sincerely.

Instead of being antagonizing, honest level-headed questions would get you a lot farther. The responses I got from Shining were decent enough and there wasn't any vitriol that I could sense.


Equally, how many people have actually voted for you Shining? There's still many hours until the lynch and Marv is a much more likely majority candidate because the tells we have make it almost a sure thing he's mafia unless he comes back glowing green like the Hulk. Your fate isn't set in stone so getting too upset is only damaging to your cause. Like I said before, if things get emotionally charged, take a short break to collect your thoughts, think about what's going on and why it's happening.

For instance, maybe Eversince is a super clever mafia player. This total antagonistic dialogue she has engaged in with you is not a healthy town player attitude. And it didn't seem to stop after the break she took. The assault continues. There's no town reason not to try to level with you on in a logical discussion, and it's breaking my town read of her because I'm particularly sensitive to the same kind of issue you're dealing with having been there multiple times.


On October 12 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 22:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
How is the stuff on Shining weak? He's contradicted himself at least 3 times there.

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.


Probably at least one scum in that group of 4.

I have OO listed there and although he was sort of scummy early on just reading his recent posts feel pretty town and just now his decision to consolidate and actually try to move things on was nice.

marv,had a spam fest but i was unimpressed.

Both vivax and SL have this vibe or just eating popcorn and watching town fight eachother. Giving comments but not driving things forward.

On October 12 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
ObviousOne posts very clean and almost too thought out for my taste, I remember reading him correctly as town when he got mislynched last time we played together, I don't know which game it was anymore though. I managed to get that read when he was in the process of trying to stop the lynch.


and SL already had the quote of "you're all town stop fighting guys".

I'd be happy lynching gummy his "play" is terrible. then Vivax/SL would be my next choice.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#930
On October 13 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote:
OO and Kelsier confirmed suspicious of SL but ignoring my argument


You seem to have had some issues reading what I posted so I apologise for that.

After my initial suspicion of you, this latest scum read is the way you defended shining when the pressure was on him , it felt like a way of gaining easy credit. The same applied to SL.
Therefore your argument against SL had absolutely no bearing on that interpretation.

I did look at your argument on SL, yes I agree with the point you made about him. well done you.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#934
On October 13 2015 03:56 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:

There are situations where a townie is being piled on and people will come to their defence to gain credit. For me the people who were coming to his defence, in a round about way

-snip-

Probably at least one scum in that group of 4.



I was somewhat defending Shining over the last few pages because I think I can understand his train of thought and I can see where the misunderstanding is. Why am I not on your potential list here? I know you've said you like my posting before but even so that was quite some time ago now.


As you mention I liked your early posting and that is part of the reasons you do not make the list. However with the manner of your defence, I would not call it a "round about" or soft defence for easy credit. There is very clear willingness to interact and actually challenge moosy not just to say "duh shining is town" so you look good later on.

In essence I interpreted your points about shining differently to others on the list.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 19:01 GMT
#936
i'm rather busy tonight but I will check back before I have to sleep, leave any questions
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 22:57 GMT
#1010
I don't want to lynch moosy or OO and I have to be up for work early tomorrow. literally best deadline time NA

my top lynch at this point would be vivax.

I think his early posts were scummy as I outlined before and I think his popcorn approach/soft defense of shining was him watching townies fight and trying to get easy credit, a common scum tactic.

Since then he has made some other alarming posts.

On October 13 2015 04:15 Vivax wrote:
It's cute how kelsier tries to say me and sl did the same thing when we really didnt.


calling it cute trying to discredit my points against him

On October 13 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I hate it when I reread things and then I end up suspecting too many people.

Went back to stoicisms post cause he's the first to vote moosy and soon after Onegu and Kelsier hop up too, both in a fashion I don't like.


Here again he is giving himself options to lynch a wide pool of players.

he would be my top lynch for today

##Unvote

##Vote Vivax

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 12 2015 22:57 GMT
#1011
With that I need to be off to bed, good luck
Zerg for Life
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