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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#1516
LS said"
"Vivax said my Damdred read had very little substance or something along those lines and I made that post explaining my position on Damdred throughout the game and why I thought the things I did during those posts."


Well, in your defense, Damdred has had very little substance, low impact, and no energy So how could your case have a lot of substance, when there isn't anything to build it off of?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#1517
On September 21 2015 08:00 LightningStrike wrote:
But in all honesty it might be the best to lynch me so I can tell Geript how bad his read on me was and actually try to make hero plays with the Angel Saves Mechanics

did you even read my post asking you to do something? it's like 2 posts above yours here. Do you read?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:02 GMT
#1518
On September 21 2015 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.

this is a game, not real life; you're not going to heaven
if you wanna look at it that way, though, if you're really the pope, you should be happy with where you're at right now
.... all you can really do here as town is SCUMHUNT like i've said to do... like... go through pages 1-70... pick page 57 for example... and read through it trying to find whose words would have come from scum.

If you want a good idea to do, while doing that, that will help you, read what people are saying and try to not look at their names... just read the words that are being posted.... that way you aren't reading it like the person posted that and you're reading what they posted instead which would help you

if you do this for me ill unvote you and try to get other people to lynch someone else because im not as sure you're scum as everyone else is sure you're scum...

i really would like to give you 1 more day to see where you are at this game and put you on probation instead of sending you to the noose

Will you do that for me? go to pages Fifty Seven to Sixty and just read them and talk about 2 to 3 people that are scum. dont talk about who is town, talk about who is scum. dont give information about what they said so much as do analysis of why they are scum for saying it and what makes them scum for the motivation of doing it.

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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:02 GMT
#1519
READ THIS LS ^
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:04 GMT
#1521
ok. read what i wrote.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:05 GMT
#1523
I'm trying to help you, help us. If you are town, you will do this. If you are scum, you won't do this.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:05 GMT
#1524
On September 21 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 08:02 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.

this is a game, not real life; you're not going to heaven
if you wanna look at it that way, though, if you're really the pope, you should be happy with where you're at right now
.... all you can really do here as town is SCUMHUNT like i've said to do... like... go through pages 1-70... pick page 57 for example... and read through it trying to find whose words would have come from scum.

If you want a good idea to do, while doing that, that will help you, read what people are saying and try to not look at their names... just read the words that are being posted.... that way you aren't reading it like the person posted that and you're reading what they posted instead which would help you

if you do this for me ill unvote you and try to get other people to lynch someone else because im not as sure you're scum as everyone else is sure you're scum...

i really would like to give you 1 more day to see where you are at this game and put you on probation instead of sending you to the noose

Will you do that for me? go to pages Fifty Seven to Sixty and just read them and talk about 2 to 3 people that are scum. dont talk about who is town, talk about who is scum. dont give information about what they said so much as do analysis of why they are scum for saying it and what makes them scum for the motivation of doing it.


Will do but I don't think it will be worth it >.<

It will be worth it because if you are mislynched as town, we can use your analysis !
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:06 GMT
#1525
brb reading what i missed
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:13 GMT
#1526
On September 21 2015 05:30 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You too BM. Well at least you are not a cocky guy like TT bashing on people who are saying wrong things about the setup.


Who did I bash? When?

I question and try to think things through. I even asked if there was holes in my thinking.

Also...
Show nested quote +
at least you are not a cocky guy

Takes one to know one i guess.

just ignore rayn... he's a drunk

On September 21 2015 05:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Wrapping up a game of dota....lord support mirana is annoying as fuck.

Especially when none of your teammates speak English >_<

support mirana is a thing?

On September 21 2015 05:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys who are not familar with my meta here some filters I want you guys to check from the database.
Games that similar in nature like this from my end:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Games I had been scum in:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike

Lightning, if you wanna be REALLY HELPFUL, make some lists like this for OTHER players :D Like what games FecalFeast, myself, or HtS are town/scum in! hell, do it for everyone. That would be killer.

You could also make a spreadsheet detailing how the thread progresses. That would be super helpful

On September 21 2015 05:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Done with the game in question.

LS, my understanding is you are being lynched for strategic reasons (at least according to rayn) and nothing is going to stop that, judging from the votes.

I think your best bet is to find someone that is a higher probability of being scum than you are. Other than Damdred, I disagree with the lack of check, I get both sides of the story but assuming all the fallen thus far are town and Damdred is one of the three scum, who else is bad in your books?

im still iffy on shining-scum. it's like 70:30 but hell that's better than none

On September 21 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - like I'd rather lynch into my scumlist but right now I'm outnumbered.

this is a bad mentality. Not everyone is vibing Rayn's leadership right now (at least i'm not)

yeah he's town but other people can pick lynches better

On September 21 2015 05:56 Half the Sky wrote:
It's almost 2200 here. Still nothing from Fidei. (He was not in dota with me just now.)

Would appreciate a few more pressure votes please.

has he been posting elsewhere? Fido is normally a lot more helpful than this

On September 21 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 06:55 Half the Sky wrote:
In your world, why does this make James a higher probability of being scum?

Well honestly he not been posting as much as I recalled him doing in Himalayas when he was mason with Tina plus scum love to defend townies all the time and he defended me the hardest(I think) and he didn't do much other than defend me. He seem to be much more detached to this game than I ever seen him as town but him being the other game bu the explanation for it so(shrugs)

wow this is an excellent post, Lightning
##unvote
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:20 GMT
#1527
aaaaannnndddd... i'm all caught up
people who got townpoints in my catchup -
tictock
Rels
FecalFeast (a little)
HalfTheSky (a lot!)

People I'm not as sure of
Rayn
Damdred

People I'm trying to not give up on
LS
FidelCastro

p.s. I still think Rayn is town but he lost town points for me today. went from A+ town to B- town. I don't even think he's my strongest townread at this point. Probably something like this for me at the current moment:

Me (i know my role)
Vivax (uncced)
TT (been super helpful)
LS (has made the best case in the last 30 pages)
HtS (clearly committed to the game, but can keep things casual, or serious... i like that a lot from her)
Rayn (i feel like my townread on him early may have had me biased on reading him as town all game)
Rels (im starting to think our argument might have been town on town... maybe we rubbed each other the wrong way)
FecalFeast (this guy is really really really hard for me to read. I can't get any meta read on him whatsofuckingever)
Damdred (hes supposedly catching up but im not sure if he really is... seems like he is busy in his scum Quicktopic)
FidelCastro (LS brought up a lot of good points on why this guy is scum)


omg i just listed everyone off the top of my head!! I'm super duper proud and excited :D
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:23 GMT
#1528
I'm really not capable of piecing together a proper 3 person scumteam right now. FF/Damdred/Fidel just doesnt feel right.

ooooh what about Rayn/Damdred/Fidel

That could be why Rayn is so pissed off and drinking... because his teammates are lurking when they shouldnt be and are considered good players!
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:32 GMT
#1530
yeah im not convinced hes scum im just trying to not back myself into him being 100% town i dont want confirmation bias on ANYONE but VIVAX.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:32 GMT
#1532
gonna possible go see a movie ... taking a break from this either way... maybesome dota 2 ?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:33 GMT
#1533
HtS LOL
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:33 GMT
#1534
Turd Ferguson
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 20 2015 23:39 GMT
#1535
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 21 2015 00:08 GMT
#1539
play with me LS :D whats ur name on there?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 21 2015 08:18 GMT
#1553
nope
i still have you in my bottom 4 which is my scum category
you just made a good post which vaulted you above Damdred/Fidel (the lurkers), Rels.

On September 21 2015 16:52 Rels wrote:
BTW this is where your scumread started:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
and rels you are literally just parroting the analysis i did on these but you dont understand it lol it's kind of pitiful for me to see you try to steal my towncred but not realize how i came to said conclusion

But this is NOT what happened. This happened:
Vivax told that inquisitor shouldn't claim even with a red check, so I wanted to do a quick analysis to see if I agreed:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 17:56 Rels wrote:
Mm I see what you mean. Let me discard the first two theories.

If the inquisitor is dead the acolyte knows about it (unless both are dead, which would be super unlikely), hence my proposition for him to claim.
It's not possible the inquisitor didn't check Damdred. It is the only target he was sure oracle would check too.

Now maybe the inquisitor has red check and didn't claim. Maybe. I'll reread BM and TT post about what would happen if the inquisitor doesn't claim to see if that makes sense.

So you either didn't read the post above or forgot it.

that is NOT where my scumread started
I called you out 4 days to a week ago or whenever it was the game started on DAY ONE
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 21 2015 08:26 GMT
#1556
On September 21 2015 16:52 Rels wrote:
BTW this is where your scumread started:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
and rels you are literally just parroting the analysis i did on these but you dont understand it lol it's kind of pitiful for me to see you try to steal my towncred but not realize how i came to said conclusion

But this is NOT what happened. This happened:
Vivax told that inquisitor shouldn't claim even with a red check, so I wanted to do a quick analysis to see if I agreed:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 17:56 Rels wrote:
Mm I see what you mean. Let me discard the first two theories.

If the inquisitor is dead the acolyte knows about it (unless both are dead, which would be super unlikely), hence my proposition for him to claim.
It's not possible the inquisitor didn't check Damdred. It is the only target he was sure oracle would check too.

Now maybe the inquisitor has red check and didn't claim. Maybe. I'll reread BM and TT post about what would happen if the inquisitor doesn't claim to see if that makes sense.

So you either didn't read the post above or forgot it.

I did read that post but I stay away from setup speculation if im not in the center of the town circle
do you not realize that you directing the vigilante has created 3 people that mafia now know ARENT the vigilante?
inquisitor is going to get deductively souped if we keep this up... huh... is that what you want? huh.

On September 21 2015 16:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:14 Bill Murray wrote:
173$ day not bad not bad at all

What do you do ?

just making a little money before my check comes in.

On September 21 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
OK I still think BM is mafia, essentially because this post is still true:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
OK BM claim I am mafia for stealing people's idea and posting them
As I said, the only time it is scum indicative is if I disform ideas to get my team an advantage
And he couldn't prove that
he is mafia

But if we're lynching LS anyway it will wait another day.

that is NOT what I claimed as to WHY you are scum
you are scum because you make a huge filter for yourself by taking thread sentiment that other people have ... who to lynch, what to analyze, how to direct the blues.... and you are the epitome of a scum-copycat

i CAN see town motivation for doing what you're doing, but I want to ask you, what would be the reason to bring the good ideas back up?

On September 21 2015 17:04 Rels wrote:
Now we need to talk about the check target
Obviously if fidei isn't lynched or shot, we need to check him. So, if fidei is alive N2; check him IMO.
Now he will probably get shot, so we need to decide a check target.
I think TT is the best check because:
- I think he's town
- some people thinks he's mafia, so he's an easy mislynch
- there is a good chance he's alive until the end of the game

No. Check Fidel. He's a GREAT check. Inquisitor can just go on someone else.

On September 21 2015 17:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote:
Hi friend sim back just now will be catching up here and posting some as I read

WTF
This is Damdred's only post in D2

yeah and i already called him out on that.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 21 2015 08:27 GMT
#1557
On September 21 2015 17:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 17:18 Bill Murray wrote:
nope
i still have you in my bottom 4 which is my scum category
you just made a good post which vaulted you above Damdred/Fidel (the lurkers), Rels.

On September 21 2015 16:52 Rels wrote:
BTW this is where your scumread started:
On September 20 2015 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
and rels you are literally just parroting the analysis i did on these but you dont understand it lol it's kind of pitiful for me to see you try to steal my towncred but not realize how i came to said conclusion

But this is NOT what happened. This happened:
Vivax told that inquisitor shouldn't claim even with a red check, so I wanted to do a quick analysis to see if I agreed:
On September 20 2015 17:56 Rels wrote:
Mm I see what you mean. Let me discard the first two theories.

If the inquisitor is dead the acolyte knows about it (unless both are dead, which would be super unlikely), hence my proposition for him to claim.
It's not possible the inquisitor didn't check Damdred. It is the only target he was sure oracle would check too.

Now maybe the inquisitor has red check and didn't claim. Maybe. I'll reread BM and TT post about what would happen if the inquisitor doesn't claim to see if that makes sense.

So you either didn't read the post above or forgot it.

that is NOT where my scumread started
I called you out 4 days to a week ago or whenever it was the game started on DAY ONE

Yeah but you only attacked me after I made this filter dive on you.
Which is what YOU accused me of doing.

that is not true. reread Day 1.
you want ignored?
Quit responding to me;
you are being very childish
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