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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 14:18 GMT
#1641
Like you don't consider Vivax town?
Sorry bud, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:18 GMT
#1642
On September 21 2015 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:10 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:04 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?

OK since you're forcing me: BM is either mafia OR something, and I'm waiting tomorrow to confirm
Damdred is 99% mafia
fidei might be mafia or his excuses are valid. Either way he said he'll catch tonight so we'll see
TT might have fooled me but I read him town all game

How does this make any sense?
You literally just said i am more likely to be mafia than BM is.

Did you see I didn't mention Vivax either ?

NO BUT YOU MENTIONED ME.
You literally said "I am lynching TT based on POE over you or LS."

Which literally means you think i am more likely to be mafia. If that was not the case you would have said;
"I am lynching TT based on POE over BM or LS."

You are fucking scum.

WTF ? Stop using pronouns. You are more likely to be mafia than who ? BM ? Are you saying that is what I said ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 21 2015 14:18 GMT
#1643
Okay Rayn I saw you're answer I actually agree that it more likely town on town I just wanted your opinion on it because it might cause issues later in the game imo. Oh btw mandatory Town Puppy picture for the game:
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May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#1644
On September 21 2015 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:15 Rels wrote:
OK rayn. I spent hours fighting someone yesterday that may not be scum. I won't do it again, especially since I'm working. So write a clear case about how I contradicted myself and I'll answer it.

I already did. You are perfectly capable of reading my posts.

yeah and it doesn't make sense. Me saying I'll lynch TT over you or LS means TT is my number 3 town. And that is what I think so I don't understand your attack

After me and LS?

Yes.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#1645
hahahah ^^
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#1646
On September 21 2015 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't consider Vivax town?
Sorry bud, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Vivax won't ever be lynched
I'd lynch TT over you or LS
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#1647
##unvote
##vote Rels

not even gonna care about deadline voting any more.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:20 GMT
#1648
OK rayn it's tiring. Write a fucking sentence about how I contradicted myself
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 14:20 GMT
#1649
Nah, you're scum and fucked up.
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 21 2015 14:20 GMT
#1650
Rolf when I made my post I didn't read the game so I see you think Rels is now scum o.o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:22 GMT
#1651
On September 21 2015 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nah, you're scum and fucked up.

Either you explain very clearly how I contradicted myself
Or you are scum pushing someone for no reason
So stop being proud and write your thoughts in words
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:24 GMT
#1652
Waiting
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:28 GMT
#1653
On September 21 2015 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:04 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?

OK since you're forcing me: BM is either mafia OR something, and I'm waiting tomorrow to confirm
Damdred is 99% mafia
fidei might be mafia or his excuses are valid. Either way he said he'll catch tonight so we'll see
TT might have fooled me but I read him town all game

How does this make any sense?
You literally just said i am more likely to be mafia than BM is.

Waiting for an explanation on that too
How me saying I would lynch TT over you or LS is saying you are scummier than BM
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:28 GMT
#1654
Did you believe I said I would lynch you or LS over TT ??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:30 GMT
#1655
OK rayn
I need you to read this fucking carefully
1 - Do you believe I said I would lynch you and LS, THEN I would lynch TT ?
2 - If not, what is your attack ?
3 - If yes, quote or it didn't happen
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:31 GMT
#1656
After that you'll explain how the fuck you thought I said you were scummier than BM
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:33 GMT
#1657
RAYN
YOU ARE THE TOWN LEADER
YOU CANNOT VOTE SOMEONE WITHOUT A FUCKING EXPLANATION, THEN LEAVE THE THREAD
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:35 GMT
#1658
fuck you
you better answer the questions above when you fucking come back
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 14:48 GMT
#1659
It comes down to this here basically:
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?


First:
Rels thinks it is obvious Damdred and James are mafia. Fair enough.
For some reason he insists we lynch Damdred over James. Why? It doesn't make any sense as he is sure both of them are mafia.

Second:
Then we talk about tictock.
Rels has a townread on him.
but he cannot lay out a single reason why he has a town read on him.
He has meta points, he doesn't clarify them.
He has also bad points that actually make more sense from scum than town perspective (see the middle of the quote below.
On September 21 2015 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
Yeah he is scummy as town, I thought he was mafia the last game too for a while. But he's playing exactly the same

so what does he do as mafia?
Show nested quote +
Why would he questioned confirmed town (Vivax) and universally townread (you) if he was mafia ?

i think the better question is why would he do that as town? i don't think questioning me is alignment indicative, questioning Vivax definitely is.
Show nested quote +
And he tryhard the whole D1, he was even the first to do so. I agree he needs to continue doing that starting now though

Again, what does he do as mafia then?

Being dumb or scummy is NOT a towntell..

Here is what he actually does say about him.
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

On September 21 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:
now I'm not going to do a town case on TT unless he is getting lynched and I still think he is town

None of this makes any sense because if Rels thinks TT is town, Rels should be arguing why he is town.
It helps the town in PoE. I think it is more likely he doesn't actually have any reasons to think TT is town, because the reasons he has laid out are not really reasons...


Third thing is this:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

On September 21 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

He can't lay out reasons why either of FF/TT is mafia.
It's not uncommon in itself, but he doesn't even care. He doesn't read HtS scum either.
Like in his world (not counting my next point), FF basically HAS to be mafia if TT is not, but instead of figuring it out by himself he trusts HtS' meta read on him........ It doesn't make any sense because again, if TT is strong town!!! he is DEFINITELY missing something and then it is most likely HtS meta read. But instead he doesn't care. At all.

Last thing;
Okay the point before could be understood if this;
On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

.... was true.
That would mean Rels reads me as scum (as i think the quote says, because it makes no sense to not list Vivax here otherwise). But apparently he doesnt. Apparently he doesn't read BM mafia either, because if he did he would be arguing he is the third mafia. Apparently he doesn't read HtS mafia either, which is quite clear from his posts.

So, given all this, he basically has to think FF is the last mafia given that he has a strong townread on TT (over BM and HtS both). There is literally no other possible answer.

But again, his answer is;
I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

So they guy basically has 100% PoE'd FF as last mafia but calls him town because of someone else's meta read.
no no no.

It is almost 100% certain Rels fucked up at some point when talking with me (i think it's the point where he called TT strongest town after me and LS - and couldn't just explain properly anymore). The fact is he is contradicting himself, and for the person who says he is being scumhunting all game long it doesn't make any fucking sense that NOW, suddenly NOW he really doesn't care about scumhunting anymore. (yes he really doesn't, i think i have pointed that out clearly).

+ the fact i brought up on D1;
It is a minor point but i think it still stands. Here;
On September 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is nothing fucking weird in that. Two arguably the most experienced players in this game have a really strong scumread on LS and basically no read on Dandel and you decide to lynch Dandel.

That is weird, not my concerns on you.

I actaully think Rels is trying to push a mislynch on Damdred who is inactive for whatever reason. He knows LS is gonna claim on D2 because i WILL be pushing him for his play and LS doesn't listen / think properly.
His play doesn't make any sense otherwise (another point on my argument on the James/Damdred thing).

Rels is scum. Nothing in his play on D2 makes any sense.
He has only been interested in people who he should not be interested in (except for BM, but that didn't go anywhere). After that, he just doesn't care about people he should care about (TT/FF).
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 14:53 GMT
#1660
alright rayn. I cannot deal with this at work, so that will wait tonight. The short version of the case "Rels found 2 mafias and doesn't care about the third" is false though. I think the team is Damdred / fidei / BM, 'cause TT is townie, HTS is town, and FF is playing his town meta according to HTS
I'll deal with it point by point when I get home
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