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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 11:59 GMT
#601
On September 16 2015 20:48 Rels wrote:
OK since we're waiting for quite a few people to answer stuff, I want to discuss something

Should people about to get mislynched roleclaim ? I'm thinking they shouldn't.
On the plus side: the town knows a little more about the game and mafia cannot fakeclaim that particular role if we decide to mass claim one day.
On the minus side: the mafia will have infos if they try to role POE.

Not talking about roles that will get revealed anyway, like grandier or crusader.


I'm inclined to say they shouldn't because it gives info to mafia.

Role claiming as a hail-Mary is such a cop-out anyways.

It makes sense, however, to insta-claim in Angel QT.
I can take that responsibility.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 16 2015 12:00 GMT
#602
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 12:01 GMT
#603
On September 16 2015 21:00 geript wrote:
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.

yo geript
LS is affirming your meta read on him is false
can you expand on that ?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 12:05 GMT
#604
Soup: Instead of using the Witch Kill, any member of the Witch's coven can instead drink a cursed Soup. The Witch will take a sip, then name a player and a role, then drink again and repeat the process.
  • What this means is the witches will match players to roles, as many as they like. Each correctly matched player will die. The Soup kill goes through any protection and cannot be stopped. If the Witch guesses a role incorrectly, the Witch's identity will be revealed, along with the target in this format: "playername the witch tried to kill targetname the [incorrect role] but failed". However, if first the Soup target is incorrect, the witch will not be revealed and the message will instead read "a witch tried to kill targetname the [incorrect role] but failed". The Crusader will not be allowed to make a revenge kill if killed by Soup, and the Martyr will not have an opportunity to save anyone from the Soup kill.


Yea, given the mechanics behind the soup kill I think keeping as much role information from mafia as possible is the best course of action.

Martyr ofc being the exception due to the Necro role.
I can take that responsibility.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 16 2015 12:05 GMT
#605
Jeez that's actually like three questions.

1. I've already said that thread entries are difficult to read, because everyone is in the same boat. I always struggle with them (although I usually have to make holding posts, given the games usually start after I've gone to bed). I just don't see what's scum indicative about saying what LS said, or at least, enough to make everyone actually start voting for him. Hell, in the newb game rayn tunnelled Bresh for a lot of d1 because of a comment he made about him and Yamato. If people want to give LS a slight scum lean for it, that's fine. And the pressure was helpful in getting LS to talk.

2. I just don't agree with this either, as it stands. It's easy to rack up the post count as either alignment. But I will agree with you that TT has picked it up a lot. Rayn seems to think his callback to Vivax was scummy, but I agree with Vivax - town look for allies whereas mafia are happy to let them lie fallow. So yes, I'm walking back my TT scum read, but not just because he is try harding. Unless that's what you were saying anyway.

3. In Personalities you basically did very little for the first couple of days, then took off like a rocket after D2 when there was that wagon on you. So maybe I'm just dinging you for being so active on D1, which, thinking about it, is a pretty lame reason to scum read someone.

I need to read geript's filter before I end lunch. He certainly seems to playing very differently from personalities, but I'm fairly sure he was RPing most of the way through that.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 12:06 GMT
#606
On September 16 2015 20:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 20:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 16:44 Rels wrote:
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?

1. I was mainly asking HTS if she thinks I can any of the posts as scum instead of town since me and her actually been playing together since November of last year so she got lots of experience with playing with me.

2. Geript wasn't in that game nor obsing that game(Carol of the Bells Mafia) but in that game I actually went away from following the town leader at the time GlowingBear and pushed for my own lynch of Tubesock because I tohught Tubesock scum slipped about the amount of scum in the setup lol.

OK. Why do you think geript is scum faking a meta read on you, instead of town using false meta by mistake ?
I think he may be scum BTW so I'm not attacking you, I just want to know.

A. He prob actually didn't look to much into Carol but if he did he would of saw I actually pushing my own thoughts there until after the Tubesock lynch .
B. I forgot I actually did try to lead town in MYLO in Office Mini where it was a pm game and I was the unCCed Cop and convinced Snickers that sicklucker had to be the last scum when he was questioning Oatsmaster(Town) being the last scum even though he disagreed about letting Oatsmaster win but at the end of the Day Snickers followed me but it was a in irc log at post game that you would see me convince Snickers and Geript actually was in that game but got Modkilled due to behavior lol. Here was the quote of the irc log where I convinced Snickers that sicklucker was the last scum but he had to convert it to normal format here:
On March 05 2015 08:08 Snickers wrote:
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[17:13] == Snickers_ [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #wtf
[17:14] <Sicklucker> le sign wth
[17:14] <Sicklucker> start by telling me why you think im mafia or oats is town
[17:14] <Snickers_> hello godfather
[17:14] <Snickers_> why did you vote kurumi day two
[17:15] <Sicklucker> He didnt do anything I followed my town reads and it was a landslide vote if I remember so my vote didnt really matter
[17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying kurumi was town tho,
[17:16] <Sicklucker> Day 1
[17:16] <Sicklucker> things change
[17:16] <Snickers_> and day two
[17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying it
[17:16] <Sicklucker> He was the day 3 lynch right?
[17:17] <Snickers_> noi day two
[17:17] <Snickers_> eden kurmi lc ve
[17:17] <Sicklucker> Like why are you doing this an hour before. If I knew you had a close decision I would have shit to say
[17:18] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:18] <Snickers_> why is oats mafia?
[17:18] <Sicklucker> Because hes lurking he wont interact with me
[17:18] <Sicklucker> he dodged me yesterday
[17:18] <Sicklucker> He also like always knows the flips
[17:19] <Sicklucker> his votes barely end up on towns
[17:19] <Sicklucker> hes not that good of a town player hes trying to keep his hands clean
[17:20] <Snickers_> his day one vote ended up on you
[17:20] <Snickers_> day two was lc
[17:20] <Sicklucker> What page wasthe kurimi lynch thing ill reread and remember my thoughts
[17:20] <Snickers_> day three he didnt vote
[17:20] <Snickers_> day four he ended on ve
[17:20] <Sicklucker> Im talking how he never votes you
[17:20] <Sicklucker> hes been setting this final 3 up
[17:21] <Sicklucker> he scum reads me all game. never acualy pushes me
[17:21] <Sicklucker> town reads you all game
[17:21] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:21] <Sicklucker> now were the final 3? how convienient
[17:21] <Snickers_> idk rayn died after pushing you
[17:21] <Sicklucker> Rayns a good player and would of died regardless he also pushed eden and lc
[17:22] <Snickers_> also you were reading me as town day one and ve as scum then you flipped it day two
[17:22] <Snickers_> feels like you were setting up a lynch
[17:22] <Sicklucker> You remember why I flipped it?
[17:22] <Sicklucker> because I do
[17:22] <Snickers_> yea
[17:22] <Snickers_> why?
[17:23] <Sicklucker> you called me out for taking my vote on ve
[17:23] <Sicklucker> you voted the person you called the medic instead of scum eden?
[17:23] <Sicklucker> it was really weird
[17:23] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wtf
[17:23] <Snickers_> why did
[17:23] <Snickers_> ve become town
[17:23] <Sicklucker> im kind of having second thoughts tbh maybe you are the mafia but nothing I can do
[17:23] <Snickers_> when he was scum at first
[17:24] <LightningStrike> o.o
[17:24] <Sicklucker> ve never became town til llike day 3 for me?
[17:24] <Snickers_> why
[17:24] <Sicklucker> it was because we talked on voice chat for staters
[17:24] <Snickers_> ok keep going
[17:24] <Sicklucker> then as the game went on we had alot of the same thoughts
[17:24] <LightningStrike> I talked with VE but I shouldn't of yoloed him
[17:24] <Snickers_> what were some of the same thoughts
[17:25] <Sicklucker> like ve also saved me from getting lynched thats probably something not in the forum
[17:25] <Sicklucker> Like some of them were disproven but we had the same thoughts thats a good sign like things on you
[17:25] <Sicklucker> and oats having too muc hinfo
[17:25] <Sicklucker> deadlines in 30 mins right?
[17:25] <Snickers_> yea
[17:26] <Snickers_> it sits weird with me tho
[17:26] <Sicklucker> hils
[17:26] <Snickers_> that you were saying kurumi was town
[17:26] <LightningStrike> So who we lynching?
[17:26] <Snickers_> but then you vote kurumi without saying anything and then after the fact
[17:26] <Sicklucker> Well that happened 3 weeks ago but
[17:26] <Snickers_> idk
[17:26] <Snickers_> ls
[17:26] <Sicklucker> I gave him a weak early town read for making those threads
[17:26] <Snickers_> who do you think it is
[17:27] <Sicklucker> but I later found out he would do it as either alignment
[17:27] <Sicklucker> oh yes thats th ereason I turned on him
[17:27] <LightningStrike> By PoE I got Snickers and Oats
[17:27] <Sicklucker> Ls what do you think?
[17:27] <Snickers_> so here is where I stand
[17:27] <Snickers_> I have oats
[17:27] <Sicklucker> Well we cant vote snickers because oats is gone
[17:27] <Sicklucker> so its between me and oats ls
[17:27] <Snickers_> seems to be trying to figure out the game through
[17:28] <Sicklucker> because snickers wont vote himself obv;p
[17:28] <Snickers_> yea if I am mafia I already won this game haha
[17:28] <Sicklucker> agreed
[17:28] <Sicklucker> no point talking about it
[17:28] <Snickers_> ls here is where I am
[17:28] <Snickers_> I have oats
[17:28] <Snickers_> the lazy player who seems to have good questions
[17:28] <Snickers_> super lazy tho
[17:28] <Snickers_> then I have sicklucker
[17:28] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seems to fall in place for him
[17:29] <Snickers_> rayn thought he was scum then rayn dies
[17:29] <Snickers_> he voted kurumi without saying anything
[17:29] <LightningStrike> tbh rayn can read sicklucker like a book
[17:29] <Snickers_> both rayn and koshi
[17:29] <Snickers_> said sicklucker
[17:29] <Snickers_> scum
[17:29] <Snickers_> oats town
[17:30] <Sicklucker> Is this happening again
[17:30] <Sicklucker> im gonna lose another final 3 for town
[17:30] <LightningStrike> check slythterin, Campus for past games with Rayn and Sicklucker together
[17:30] <Sicklucker> because no one cares that scum is obv keeping me around
[17:30] <LightningStrike> Rayn called Sicklucker town in Campus Mafia
[17:30] <Sicklucker> ls in my first game as mafia ms paint
[17:30] <Sicklucker> I pocketed rayn
[17:30] <Sicklucker> hes not always right
[17:30] <Sicklucker> look it up
[17:31] <Snickers_> was he town in campus mafia?
[17:31] <LightningStrike> he can read you better than anyone else that is dead
[17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi is always wrong about me
[17:31] <LightningStrike> yes Snickers
[17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi also thought I was town in my last mafia win
[17:31] <Sicklucker> i beat them both as mafia before so there paranoid
[17:31] <LightningStrike> Both Rayn and Sicklucker were town in Campus
[17:31] <LightningStrike> keep in mind Rayn replaced someone in that game and so did sicklucker
[17:31] <Sicklucker> yes but that was a easy read
[17:31] <LightningStrike> although rayn replaced much later
[17:32] <Sicklucker> and he only called me town based on my 40 page filter
[17:32] <Snickers_> ls
[17:32] <Snickers_> what do you get out of the votes day one
[17:32] <Snickers_> mafia got lynched with four votes
[17:32] <Snickers_> sicklucker had two votes on him
[17:32] <Snickers_> I had two votes on me
[17:32] <Sicklucker> Snickers are you slow rolling me here?
[17:32] <LightningStrike> let me check
[17:32] <Snickers_> ls
[17:32] <Sicklucker> like if your mafia you dont have to talk
[17:32] <Sicklucker> you already won
[17:32] <Snickers_> I can post in the thread
[17:32] <Snickers_> the final results
[17:32] <Snickers_> but the names arnt in chronological order
[17:33] <Sicklucker> I dont get how you gave me the hammer and are flipping. I sapose that makes you confirmed town tho
[17:33] <Sicklucker> because no reason to slowrole me here
[17:34] <LightningStrike> so your only scum is Oats
[17:34] <LightningStrike> but yet me and the rest reading Oats town
[17:34] <Sicklucker> yes now that I think of it
[17:34] <Sicklucker> snickers is neve rmafia unless hes a huge d bag
[17:34] <Snickers_> haha
[17:34] <LightningStrike> I hammering you sicklucker I'm sorry if you are town
[17:34] <Sicklucker> your not hammering me
[17:34] <Sicklucker> your vote doesint matter
[17:34] <Snickers_> haha
[17:35] <Sicklucker> are you surious
[17:35] <Snickers_> that is true
[17:35] <Sicklucker> well his vote does matter
[17:35] <Sicklucker> Ls let snickers have th ehammer
[17:35] <Sicklucker> dont vote let him decide
[17:35] <Sicklucker> your just gonna sheep the confirmed town anyway
[17:35] <Sicklucker> lets be real
[17:36] <Sicklucker> and snickers is confirmed no
[17:36] <LightningStrike> honestly my poe did change because I forgot I did metaread Snickers town
[17:36] <Sicklucker> Ls what changed since yesterday omg?
[17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are insane oats is still mafia
[17:36] <LightningStrike> I been townreading Oats this entire game
[17:36] <Sicklucker> literraly nothings changed he didnt even try today he knows he loss
[17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are throwing for no reason
[17:36] <LightningStrike> and he was like this in NYE Party
[17:37] <LightningStrike> and got lynched for it
[17:37] <Sicklucker> YOU VOTED HIM YESTERDAY?
[17:37] <Sicklucker> WTF
[17:37] <LightningStrike> and same in Void
[17:37] <LightningStrike> I didn't vote Oats?
[17:37] <Sicklucker> yes you did
[17:37] <Sicklucker> LightningStrike United States. March 01 2015 21:55. Posts 4696 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote Vote: Oatsmaster
[17:37] <Snickers_> So i thoguht sl was kinda sitting back yesterday
[17:37] <Sicklucker> .....
[17:37] <Snickers_> he meant where his vote ended up
[17:37] <Sicklucker> Because you said you were killing my scum read no matter what
[17:37] <Sicklucker> no shit I sat back snickers
[17:38] <Sicklucker> im also in two other games
[17:38] <Sicklucker> I noticed your in one too
[17:38] <Snickers_> yea haha
[17:38] <Sicklucker> and you didnt aproach me either
[17:38] <LightningStrike> I'm coaching in 1 game and playing in another also
[17:38] <Sicklucker> UNTILL 30 MINS BEFORE VOTE
[17:38] <LightningStrike> remember I am the Cop
[17:38] <Sicklucker> is your student still alive in that game?
[17:38] <Snickers_> it was actually three hours
[17:39] <LightningStrike> I wont say anything on their status
[17:39] <Snickers_> haha
[17:39] <Snickers_> I feel like shit if sl it town
[17:39] <Sicklucker> you fuckig should
[17:40] <Sicklucker> Im gonna berate you so hard if you don tcome to your senses
[17:40] <Snickers_> sicklucker rank three people that you pushed in this game
[17:41] <Sicklucker> Like sign ls remember when I went on voice chat
[17:41] <Sicklucker> ve,you,eden
[17:41] <Sicklucker> oats obv
[17:41] <Sicklucker> Rank?
[17:41] <Snickers_> yea
[17:41] <Snickers_> like mine would be
[17:42] <Snickers_> 1.ve 2. geript etc
[17:42] <Sicklucker> Well #1 oats because hes the last mafia and im winning us the game. #2eden because he was mafia WHO BY THE WAY WANTED TO KILL ME
[17:42] <Sicklucker> like acualy lets go back to day one heres why im town
[17:42] <Sicklucker> Like I was edens kill target all day look it up
[17:43] <Sicklucker> like let me get some quotes I think this is the best way I can save the game
[17:43] <Snickers_> no just say why
[17:43] <Sicklucker> Ray also had some good posts. His big post recently about SL was pretty baller. I haven't got the scattershot townie vibes I normally get from SL. Where you at?
[17:44] <Sicklucker> like here hes pinging me out 4 hours into the game who does that to there mafia partner? you know who he doesint mention in his filter? oats
[17:44] <Snickers_> yea and eden were talking back and forth very early
[17:44] <Sicklucker> Go look at edens filter and tell me you think hes my partner with a straight face
[17:45] <Sicklucker> thats how we save th egame in 15 minutes
[17:45] <Sicklucker> is vote in 15 minutes?
[17:45] <Snickers_> yea
[17:46] <Sicklucker> That reminds me, where is sicklucker? He's not really doing much of anything this game, which would be surprising if he's town.
[17:46] <Snickers_> eden pinged oats rly early
[17:46] <Sicklucker> vote snickerdoodle
[17:46] <Sicklucker> ya i just saw that too
[17:46] <Sicklucker> but he neve rfollows up
[17:47] <Sicklucker> Eagerly awaiting Oats's explanation for why four people saw the QT though (if that's what happened).
[17:47] <Sicklucker> thats barely a ping tbh
[17:47] <Sicklucker> LS what are your thoughts on Snickers and sicklucker right now? (And I guess geript and Kurumi if you have something to say about them) like look who hes going after
[17:48] <Sicklucker> the two towns that mafia decided are weak enough players to trick in final 3
[17:48] <Sicklucker> l is pretty clearly doing yesterday's disruption work to keep the town circle from solidifying b/c once it's entrenched it's too hard to stop
[17:48] <Sicklucker> why don't you want to lynch sicklucker? if he's paying attention but clearly not active in the thread or side chats then he's probably mafia. sicklucker is much more active than this as town
[17:49] <Sicklucker> i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the le
[17:49] <Sicklucker> Like its literally half his posts.
[17:49] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:49] <Snickers_> why is ls the cop
[17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know it before
[17:50] <Sicklucker> and he was not in a spot where he needed to bus me. Infact everyone was town reading me untill I helped convince them eden is town
[17:50] <Snickers_> geript outted him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> when koshi voted him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> it wa ssuper obvious
[17:50] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know ls was the cop before he outted
[17:50] <Sicklucker> also when koshi said someone pmed him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> I went int voice chat with koshi 10 minutes later and ls was there
[17:51] <Sicklucker> i just said why
[17:51] <Sicklucker> koshi made it super obvious
[17:51] <Sicklucker> now that we know I knew he was the cop why didnt I nk him?
[17:52] <Snickers_> cause youre the godfather
[17:52] <Snickers_> and rayn was attacking you
[17:52] <Snickers_> and lc wasnt doing shit like gobble
[17:52] <Snickers_> was in that other game
[17:52] <Sicklucker> what does that have to do with anything
[17:52] <Sicklucker> I dont understand you
[17:52] <Snickers_> well two minutes till lynch
[17:52] <Sicklucker> READ EDENS FILTER
[17:52] <Sicklucker> 8 MINUTES
[17:52] <Sicklucker> READ IT
[17:53] <Snickers_> ls what are you thinking
[17:53] <Sicklucker> Ls remember when koshi voted you randomly and gave no reason?
[17:53] <Sicklucker> thats when I knew you were cop
[17:53] <LightningStrike> I knew why he did it lol
[17:54] <Snickers_> but u dont want to kill the cop
[17:54] <Snickers_> if lc is ur partner
[17:54] <Snickers_> haha
[17:54] <LightningStrike> but lc was a easy bus snickers
[17:54] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:54] <Snickers_> we only have on minute
[17:54] <Sicklucker> Lc literraly does not mtter
[17:54] <Sicklucker> we have 6 minutes but if your right SWITCH
[17:55] <Sicklucker> Oats tried so hard this game for oats
[17:55] <Sicklucker> he went agro
[17:55] <Sicklucker> thats not oats town game. but hes not being agro anymore
[17:56] <Sicklucker> 4minutes
[17:56] <Sicklucker> according,tothread
[17:56] <Snickers_> ls any last thoughts?
[17:56] <Sicklucker> He just voted me
[17:56] <Sicklucker> well fuck you guys you deserve the losss
[17:56] <Sicklucker> afk
[17:57] <Snickers_> shit
[17:57] <Snickers_> ls I AM SO CONFUSED
[17:57] <Snickers_> has oats
[17:57] <Snickers_> been playing his town game?
[17:57] <LightningStrike> yes
[17:57] <Snickers_> sigh
[17:57] <Snickers_> I think its ls
[17:57] <Snickers_> its sl
[17:57] <Snickers_> but heres the thing
[17:57] <Snickers_> Id rather fuck over oats than sl
[17:58] <LightningStrike> play to win snickers
[17:58] <Snickers_> well now
[17:58] <Snickers_> you hold the vote
[17:58] <Snickers_> lol
[17:58] <Snickers_> fuck
[17:58] <LightningStrike> I voting Sicklucker
[17:58] <Snickers_> whats bothering me
[17:58] <Snickers_> is
[17:58] <Snickers_> rayn died instead of cop
[17:58] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:58] <Snickers_> i think we are right tho
[17:58] <LightningStrike> because they had a rolecop so I could of fakeclaimed
[17:59] <LightningStrike> but lc was the rolecop and lynched
[17:59] <LightningStrike> so I'm the Cop
[17:59] <Snickers_> idk fuck man
[17:59] <Snickers_> haha
[17:59] <Sicklucker> your not changing ls mind
[17:59] <Sicklucker> hes too dense
[17:59] <Snickers_> fuck oats
[17:59] <Snickers_> either way
[17:59] <Sicklucker> gg wp oats
[18:00] <Sicklucker> if you wanted to vote oats you shoul dhave did it 50 minutes ago so you held the hammer and can change at deadline
[18:00] <Sicklucker> now you dont have th etiebreaker
[18:00] <Snickers_> idk I wanted to pressure you haha
[18:01] <Snickers_> yo guys
[18:01] <Snickers_> I am the godfather
[18:01] <Sicklucker> ...
[18:01] <Sicklucker> slowroll
[18:01] <Sicklucker> of the century
[18:01] <Snickers_> hmm
[18:01] <Snickers_> i think sicklucker is town
[18:01] <Snickers_> haha
[18:01] <Sicklucker> NOSHIT
[18:01] <Snickers_> lol
[18:02] <Snickers_> i am glad palmar is around
[18:02] <Sicklucker> this is my first time getting mislynched in 15
[18:02] <Sicklucker> games sorry if im really pissed
[18:03] <LightningStrike> sorry sicklucker if you are town
[18:03] <Snickers_> idk
[18:04] <Snickers_> I think this game has a lot of statistics in it
[18:04] <Snickers_> even if you played really well there is still a decent chance of losing
[18:04] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seemed to add up agaisnt you sl
[18:04] <Snickers_> and oats shit that added up agaisnt him wasnt much
[18:07] <Sicklucker> Ya you guys ruined m yday
[18:07] <Sicklucker> I thought I was gonna get nominated for best mafia performance

Funniest thing I remember lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 16 2015 12:20 GMT
#607
I'm not sure what to make of geript's thread entry. Rayn seemed earlier to have a bead on what geript was getting at, but I presume it's some sort of blue-soft that went over my head. The rest of his filter is essentially:
- A weak push on LS
- null reads on HTS and TS
- pushing Dandel for inactivity.
Not a lot to go on really. I'm struggling to remember the difference between geript and Palmar on voice - I think it was Palmar that is always really self-assured. Geript here seems to be struggling a bit to find his groove. He was very sure of most of his reads in personalities, but he could just be a bit disconnected, given his OOC stuff going on (which he claimed beforehand, so is NAI).
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 16 2015 12:32 GMT
#608
On September 16 2015 19:21 Tictock wrote:
Also since your not ignoring me atm.

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:12 Tictock wrote:
On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town.


On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.


Rayn can you explain why you hardread geript as town?


Do you even read the game you are posting in? Like we JUST talked about this for fucking pages....
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 12:36 GMT
#609
On September 16 2015 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 19:21 Tictock wrote:
Also since your not ignoring me atm.

On September 16 2015 08:12 Tictock wrote:
On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town.


On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.


Rayn can you explain why you hardread geript as town?


Do you even read the game you are posting in? Like we JUST talked about this for fucking pages....


So your whole read on geript was kus you both thought LS was scummy.
ok
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 16 2015 12:55 GMT
#610
For the record i just booked a cruise to Stockholm for tomorrow - saturday.
So don't expect tens of pages of filter from me during that time.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 13:42 GMT
#611
fidei, before BM comes back to answer Vivax, what do you think of him ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 13:45 GMT
#612
On September 16 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i just booked a cruise to Stockholm for tomorrow - saturday.
So don't expect tens of pages of filter from me during that time.

that seems pretty cool (=
for the record too: are you OK with people not claiming at the last moment if they are mislynched ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 13:47 GMT
#613
On September 16 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:
fidei, before BM comes back to answer Vivax, what do you think of him ?

It wasn't clear though; not asking you to repeat what you said earlier, but what do you think about what Vivax found about BM comparing reads to Vivax and not rayn ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 13:52 GMT
#614
On September 16 2015 21:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 21:00 geript wrote:
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.

yo geript
LS is affirming your meta read on him is false
can you expand on that ?

WTF geript
why do you post something and not answer a question asked to you 1 minute later
Dandel Ion, who you are saying is a non factor, did exactly the same thing with his "I don't understand people's posts even though Slam /out the game" post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 16 2015 14:31 GMT
#615
In ACLS drving. Drug screen. I'm busy deal w/ it. Also I'm kinda down to lynch fido. Idk why.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 14:40 GMT
#616
On September 15 2015 23:56 geript wrote:
I'm kinda torn on HtS fwiw. No clue why. It's definitely not related to her scumlean on me though.


On September 16 2015 23:31 geript wrote:
In ACLS drving. Drug screen. I'm busy deal w/ it. Also I'm kinda down to lynch fido. Idk why.

Beginning to be tired of these reads without explanation.
Next time, please don't hit post until what you wrote is a defense against LS saying you're using fabricated meta.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 16 2015 14:42 GMT
#617
Heads up. I am actually really sick today and left work early.

Going to rest up most of today and will catch up on everything (including the questions aimed at me) tonight.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 14:44 GMT
#618
On September 16 2015 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Heads up. I am actually really sick today and left work early.

Going to rest up most of today and will catch up on everything (including the questions aimed at me) tonight.

take care
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 16 2015 15:35 GMT
#619
On September 16 2015 21:00 geript wrote:
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.

what about the non-factor geript doe
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 15:39 GMT
#620
Leaving work very soon so as always I won't be super active until tomorrow. I still have a ton of question without answers, so I will compile them to not forget.

@Everyone except Shining (about Damdred meta read of Shining)
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 17:11 Rels wrote:
Damdred I think it is super weird you're not trying to find town like you did in every other game I played with you. I liked your boldness asking for the grail at the very beginning though.
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured.


He explained he's not a fan of playing much D1. Did that factor into your scumread or are you just not buying that explanation period?


I've played with shining in a total of probably 60-90 games total. We have played a lot together multiple places.

I know he hates playing early, but he can't hide emotional things as town he explodes at points or he gets super excited but it's missing here.a

Another meta read. I hate them because I can't judge them.
Can someone who knows Shining confirm or deny this ? If this is a lie, Damdred's read is super fake.




@BM
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 16:48 Rels wrote:
About BM: he did the same thing as HTS; catching up with the thread and making his reads evolved. His thought process is clearly stated in the thread and understandable. And I loved how he simply said "well I don't have any scumread". =D I'm pretty sure BM is town.
@BM a question though: why did you think rayn was 100% town based on his first posts ?

On September 16 2015 16:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote:
ok Rels is town ~circa page 15

~circa ?

On September 16 2015 20:30 Rels wrote:
OK I think I have the explanation for that
I will let him answer first though to see if it matches
@BM can you explain what Vivax just said ?



@Shining
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 17:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
I'm here. Post will probably be sloppy because I'm writing as I'm catching up.

On September 15 2015 18:34 Rels wrote:
Going to grab some lunch so I'll be AFK until later. Here is my brain right now:

Town
rayn
Vivax
TT

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
HTS
fidei
BM

Maybe scum
Dandel Ion

Scum
The Shining
LS

See you all later (=


This post is so easy to make. I said I don't get on much Monday/Tuesday and the game started slow while I was on, with almost no one posting. I'm almost always scummed D1 because I don't like to play it but w.e, I'm used to it. I started the holy grail convo because no one was talking about anything else and I figured the sooner we settle on it, the more info we'd get from people trying to push for it for strange reasons. Better to discuss it now than leave it until the last 12-24h of day phase.

WTF
My reason to scumread you was NOT you being AFK or wanting to discuss something different. I had three reasons to scumread you and they are explained here:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 16:34 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:38 The Shining wrote:
Hi hi. Are people just scared to post or what? I'm not the martyr so Idk what else to do except start the conversation on the Holy Grail vote.

Who is it going to?

I dislike this post very much for a few reasons. The main one is that this is the first post of The Shining, and there is two different subjects in it:
"The game is slow"
"Let's talk about the holy grail"
First post with different subjects in them means the person didn't just post what he thought, but took the time to make a post. It is scum indicative.

Plus, two questions: the easy way to participate for scum.
Plus, he tries to start a conversation and leaves.

Now your big post is alright, and I like the reasonning on Damdred. But your reasonning (Damdred applied for grail and gtfo) is one of the reasons I scumread you in the first place!
So. You cannot explain the first two reasons I scumread you initially (different subjects in the first post + asking questions in the first post), they're scum indicative for me. It's small though.
Can you explain the third ? How is you starting a conversation on grail then leaving is different from Damdred applying for Grail then leaving ?



@HTS
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 17:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 07:56 Half the Sky wrote:
I see Fidei was catching up as of an hour ago, and he posted in the other thread. He's never played as mafia, and I know he told me sometime back he would likely struggle with it if he rolled it. The longer he goes without posting makes me wonder if he's actually gone red this go.

OK HTS. You're the reason I townread fidei last game when I was scumreading him initially. So what is your read on fidei's catch up post ? Cause I find it super townie; logical, but with different conclusions on certain part of the game than the thread sentiment.



@geript
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 21:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 21:00 geript wrote:
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.

yo geript
LS is affirming your meta read on him is false
can you expand on that ?



@fidei
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:
fidei, before BM comes back to answer Vivax, what do you think of him ?

It wasn't clear though; not asking you to repeat what you said earlier, but what do you think about what Vivax found about BM comparing reads to Vivax and not rayn ?



@rayn
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2015 22:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i just booked a cruise to Stockholm for tomorrow - saturday.
So don't expect tens of pages of filter from me during that time.

that seems pretty cool (=
for the record too: are you OK with people not claiming at the last moment if they are mislynched ?



My vote is on Dandel for actively lurking, not answering stuff and being the last member of the ULOUP (<3 FF).
I also think geript is scum for not doing anything other than a push on LS, on a meta read that is apparently fabricated; and Damdred may be scum if his Shining's meta read is fabricated.

See you all tomorrow. (=
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