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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#484
On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town.


On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.


Rayn can you explain why you hardread geript as town?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 07:47 GMT
#518
On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:
I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now?
If not, where do you stand on him?




Huh? I've put a few of those out there.

On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote:
Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.


On September 15 2015 18:23 Tictock wrote:
LS is a fine lynch.

Giving an excuse, then wanting to "get down to buisness", followed by such a null question.

yep yep

Oh someone said that this post was a sheep of thread sentiment. I agreed with the push on LS, he had 2 posts at the time... so not like I'm going to post a 3 paragraph case. I'm not sure what more you'd expect from me in that, I was just stating that I supported that lynch at the time.

On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on



So I definitely have been making some scum reads. If they aren't good enough for you kus I haven't pushed them enough or some thing... well I don't give a shit honestly. I'm taking my time doing my thing.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 07:58 GMT
#523
Following up with the questions in HtS's posts.

I'm somewhat null on FF (and he wasn't the only person to say I left after getting townreads) maybe leaning a little town on him kus I mostly agree with his posts.

Actually his assesment of Damdred a few pages ago is pretty in line with my own feelings on Damdred (which I included in my last post) so besides him scumreading me I agree with his reads.

FF's probably town, I definitely don't see anything that suggests to me that he is scum.

And for the Shining. I never dropped my early townlean on him.

I made this point:
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.


Which a few people are taking as me changing my read on TS kus they are focusing on the 2nd sentance, but the first one was my main point. I've seen rels catch scum with his opening post analysis before, so while I said I didn't agree with the read (as in, not scum-reading TS) I though Rel's might have a point.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:00 GMT
#524
Oh and TS let me know if that last post addressed your question to me or not.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:04 GMT
#526
Fidei can you explain why you say this

I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect.


Why do you find the push to be suspect?

Keep in mind people were pushing him as mafia when these were his only 2 posts:
On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!

On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:07 GMT
#528
Rels since your around...

What are your current thoughts on Damdred and Fidei?

Also what do you make of geript so far?

I think geript is pretty null right now, and it seems really odd to me that rayn is townreading him so hard. Am I missing something?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:08 GMT
#529
On September 16 2015 16:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
ULOUP

wowowowowow
I LOVE YOU
This is SOOOOO good =D
... onto the question now



Yea, I'm missing something...

What is ULOUP?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:11 GMT
#530
On September 16 2015 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
damdred is town


What makes you so sure?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:17 GMT
#532
On September 16 2015 17:11 Rels wrote:
Damdred I think it is super weird you're not trying to find town like you did in every other game I played with you. I liked your boldness asking for the grail at the very beginning though.
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured.


He explained he's not a fan of playing much D1. Did that factor into your scumread or are you just not buying that explanation period?


I've played with shining in a total of probably 60-90 games total. We have played a lot together multiple places.

I know he hates playing early, but he can't hide emotional things as town he explodes at points or he gets super excited but it's missing here.a

Another meta read. I hate them because I can't judge them.
Can someone who knows Shining confirm or deny this ? If this is a lie, Damdred's read is super fake.


TS said that he though 60-90 was an over exaggeration.

On September 16 2015 10:21 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
If I'm going to be honest with you I really haven't read much if any of the game at this point besides where I posted yesterday just now I started rolling through filters of my favorite people.

I had an early town read on geript and Ryan though. Slight town read on eels though.

Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured.


Picks easy townreads in Rayn and Rels then scums me for being emotionless? LoL. What are your reads on anyone else, Damdred?

I'm glad you think my posts are pretty but you missed one key thing if this is my "scum" meta. If we've played so many games together between here and other forums(which 60-90 games seems a bit high of an estimate, did you just throw that number out there to strengthen your meta read?), you would know that every time I'm town, I'm paranoid of you and your strong scum game, when you put your mind to it. I almost never town you(like now), and you usually end up being the one realizing its my town game when everyone else is trying to lynch me for it.

LoL since you know me, you would know I've been in anger management and in control of my emotions the last few weeks since my last blow up =P sorry I'm not angsty Shining this time around. But you scumming me for a crap meta read is going to get me to that point pretty quickly. Sorry bro, you're my #1 scum now.

Fidei is likely town, even though I personally hate WoTs. I guess I can't judge this time around, though. However, I'd like to address the part about hating people not wanting to play early and point out that I am playing and giving reads...I'm not sure what else you'd like me to do? Do jumping jacks yelling "I'M TOWN" all up and down the thread? Just because I don't like playing D1 doesn't mean I don't actually play D1.


Your right about Damdred's townhunting though. He also dropped his early read on LS for his meta-read on TS without any mention.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:24 GMT
#536
On September 16 2015 17:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 17:08 Tictock wrote:
On September 16 2015 16:55 Rels wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
ULOUP

wowowowowow
I LOVE YOU
This is SOOOOO good =D
... onto the question now



Yea, I'm missing something...

What is ULOUP?

useful list of useless people


Oh we have an acronym for that now...

Lets not use it
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:29 GMT
#540
On September 16 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 17:07 Tictock wrote:
Rels since your around...

What are your current thoughts on Damdred and Fidei?

Also what do you make of geript so far?

I think geript is pretty null right now, and it seems really odd to me that rayn is townreading him so hard. Am I missing something?

I'm catching up with the thread. I think you'll find my last two posts interesting though. (=
geript may be scum. I thought he was town 'cause he had the same reaction as me (and quite a few people) about LS, and I thought he wouldn't bus this early. But now I think LS may be town actually, so I have no reasons to think he's town.


Ok cool.

Regarding bussing, LS made a really good point that it doesn't make any sense for mafia to buss their teammates in this format. There is 0 towncred to be gained since we don't get flips, so purposefully bussing a teammate is pretty bad mafia play this game.

Having said that, nothing in mafia is 100% kus there is always someone who will make the sub-optimal play.

If I have a point here it's that association reads/cases are probably really bad this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:40 GMT
#545
On September 16 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
Don't think this in particular is suspicious. He posted very little so we don't really know his thought process. Maybe you can think his lack of activity is suspicious.
But the reason I'm not sure about him being scum is that I acted the same way in Newbie XI. Was super inactive the first three days, came back, and was so good he got shot the next night. Plus I liked him openly asking for the Grail.


Yea I don't want to read too much from the activity, I know Damdred and Rayn (can't recall if there is anyone else) are playing in another game atm.

This one apparently isn't Generic enough for them.

Also looking at Damdred's filter I realize all he ever said regarding LS was
On September 15 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I might not mind a deadline ls vote tbh


So me thinking he was changing a read, or switching his top scum or summin is kinda over the top.

I'm not sure why people like him asking for the grail, I can totally see Scum!Damdred being bold enough to ask for it like that.

Idk, I'm not sure who I would trust with the grail just yet. Though that probably needs to become a bigger focus for town. We want to make sure it goes to town, I'm less worried about it being held for a long time. Any town holding the grail is liable to be witch killed so I'd imagine we can only realistically hold it for a day or two.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:46 GMT
#548
On September 16 2015 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 10:33 The Shining wrote:
On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote:
As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.

Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.

Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean.


On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon.

I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.

I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on



Assuming the TS here is me(The Shining), I'm starting to like Tictock less and less. Especially because I really like this post here:

On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up.

Pretty ok with BM and LS now.

Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.

BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.

Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.

Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard.


I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now?
If not, where do you stand on him?




I also kind of agreed with FF there. But TT's lack of scumreads worry me, too. And he went from townlean on me for my entrance to "keep an eye on me" without giving any reason why, as if he was just setting up to follow town sentiment, which was not liking my entrance at that time. I had made no posts or said anything else to change his read on me.

Damdred, TT or Dandel lynch for me today.

I actually agree with TT being scummy.


Is that why you started ignoring me?

On September 16 2015 06:41 Tictock wrote:
So what are you scumreading HtS then rayn?

She pointed out and responded to stuff as she read through the thread, endgaged you and Rels regarding her "I'm not a martyr" thing, then goes looking into other games to further her reads.

Tone and actions all seem towny to me. Possible for these things to come from scum HtS I suppose, I do believe she is pretty capable as mafia.


On September 16 2015 08:12 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town.


Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.


Rayn can you explain why you hardread geript as town?


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:47 GMT
#550
On September 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:
I'm still waiting for Shining to answer, but I don't really think he's scum anymore. So let's unvote.
As he is the last member of the ULOUP, I'll vote Dandel Ion until he stops trolling. He will have to be super townie though, 'cause him actively lurking for the past day is scum indicative.

##DeadlineUnvote
##DeadlineVote Dandel Ion

If Dandel starts playing and is actually town, geript is my next scumread. Possibly Damdred if his meta read is crap like Shining affirmed. I still need someone to analyze it BTW.


I support this post.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:53 GMT
#553
On September 16 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:
I don't have this problem (= you're the best Grail owner: town, but there are other people mafia will want to shoot before you.


Awwww

<3 you too buddy

Never let BM destroy what we have ^.^
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 08:58 GMT
#562
On September 16 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:
TT, rayn: what is your read of FF ?


I'm leaning town on FF. His earlier assessment of Damdred made a lot of sense to me, plus the way he interacted with Vivax seemed townie to me. He's still somewhat null but I see some similarities to what I saw him so as town in both Personality and Cannons.

Actually speaking of Vivax, where has he run off to?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 09:07 GMT
#570
Rayn I'm not playing to please you.

I post what I think.

Writing that post reminded me that Vivax has been pretty absent since after he claimed. So I mentioned him.

Maybe talking about him will bring him back and get him playing. Who knows.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 09:14 GMT
#573
On September 16 2015 18:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 17:11 Tictock wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
damdred is town


What makes you so sure?

dunno how good his meta shit is (but geript disagreed so it's probably solid) but he knows about the shine, which is more than i can say about anybody else this game.


Ok you made me smile D1.

I wont join Rels in Policy lynching you.

Sorry Rels, this is how i read the trolls.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 09:31 GMT
#578
On September 16 2015 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Regarding TT. The second post i quoted jsut a while ago; I have a really hard time believing that is what the dude actually believes could be true. He has played with me, he knows how i do present my reads. I don't lay out everything at the start because it pushes out reactions. I have NEVER made a read, not explain it, and then NOT have reasons behind the read. Every single person who has ever played with me knows that. Like the dude has seen me make posts like this:


So that quote you are talking about here Rayn?

I was literally talking about the bolded.

As I was reading through the game I saw this interaction
On September 15 2015 09:29 geript wrote:
##deadline vote Lightning strike
Rayn I can't hold being in character, but do you know why?

On September 15 2015 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not really, no.

On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

On September 15 2015 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

okay then we have the same reason


You had thrown out a couple posts about LS in between there as well, but I would have expected you to be more clear about your reasons. I'd also sorta expect you to respond to geript's question by stating your reason first.

So it kinda looked like you were giving a read, not explaining, then agreeing with geripts read.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 16 2015 09:33 GMT
#579
On September 16 2015 18:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
not even trolling tho
absolutely 100% no idea why ppl keep saying that


How would you describe your posting then?
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