• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:48
CET 16:48
KST 00:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT4Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up0ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)44Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread What Game makes you happy and stress free? Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2442 users

Season of the Witch 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 09 2015 23:36 GMT
#10
A no flip game eh? ... interesting

Prob too much for me

/obs
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 10 2015 05:20 GMT
#13
Well then...

/in

#YOLO

#BlameDamdred
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 10 2015 06:33 GMT
#17
On September 10 2015 14:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Time consuming?


Fairly safe bet
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 11 2015 01:49 GMT
#39
IML sounds fine to me especially the way you have 2 sets of voting to control it.

Majority lynch in general sounds pretty rough to me in large games, but for a 13p it feels good.

Also 72 hour days would be pretty brutal if there was no option to cut that short.

The whole no flip thing still sounds rough to me, but everything else... Amazing!

One question though:
Wandering Wraith: Even in death you still haunt the living. Every night you can haunt a player, that player will know he was visited by the Wraith. If you visit Grandier or the Pope, they will learn your identity.

Haunting is done only after death? Like role is basically VT until dead?

Also I assume players are only notified "visted by wraith"
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 03:37 GMT
#123
Hiya!

I'm town, not the martyr though.

Rayn probs town, his thing on the martyr makes sense. If martyr uses their ability mafia gets to know the role of who they were targeting whiles getting to know who was the martyr at the same time, so eliminated 2 roles.

I suppose not claiming is fine as long as you don't martyr though, not sure there's a downside there.

I'll be back after I finish raiding.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 05:20 GMT
#124
Yea looking back over things it looks like the best course of action for martyr is to not claim and not sacrifice themselves. It does say in OP

Martyr: Each night you will learn who is being killed by the Witch Kill. You can then choose to save that person by sacrificing yourself for them. Your heroic death will be made obvious. If Witch Kill doesn't go through, or isn't attempted, you will learn nothing.
[/b]

Just to be clear, the martyr save is only made obvious as to it being a martyr save. Whoever was targeted is not revealed.


So while it seems like town will be notified that the NK was martyred (and thus know that it was martyr that died) it still gives mafia the role of the person who they were targeting.

There might be situations late in the game where that is useful but generally I can see how protecting someone tends to benefit mafia more.

I dont see what is gained from having the martyr claim though, seems unnecessary.

Rayn why do you think they should claim even if they don't intend to protect someone? How does it benifit mafia if they don't? Where is the benefit to town?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 05:29 GMT
#126
As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.

Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.

Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 05:31 GMT
#127
On September 15 2015 14:22 geript wrote:
Read the scum role. They learn who the NK targeted not the martyr. It's a plammar special nerf to the martyr.


Did I say something that made you think I didn't understand that?

They would know the NK was martyr'd kus someone other than their target died thus the person who dies who wasn't their target, plus the stuff I quoted about how it would be "made obviuse" that it kill was martyred. Plus the necro role info.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 06:13 GMT
#129
Geript how sure are you on your read on LS?

Obv it's still early, I just wanna know how strongly you feel about it.

And does it seems like maybe rayn didn't have a reason to scumread LS then just agreed with your read?

Or maybe I just trying too hard with ~3 pages to read....
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 08:16 GMT
#178
On September 15 2015 17:05 Vivax wrote:
The thing with the martyr is that he learns who gets killed and hence who is town during the night if I understand correctly, he should try to do some decent crumbs even at the risk of being too obvious.

And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives.


I don't like this post
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 08:31 GMT
#188
On September 15 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 17:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

so you want to lynch lurkers?

I want to push people to not be useless
If one refuses he's mafia


I like playin wid dis guy
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 09:20 GMT
#212
Ok rayn, I see the light!

My faith is restored.

Also, yea the stuff I was not liking about Vivax makes sense if he's the martyr.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 09:23 GMT
#218
LS is a fine lynch.

Giving an excuse, then wanting to "get down to buisness", followed by such a null question.

yep yep
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 10:19 GMT
#234
Humm, prob a legit post from Fidei right there.

I am disappointed regardless.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 10:28 GMT
#236
Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon.

I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.

I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 10:31 GMT
#237
Yea, everyone else is nullish.

Town circle:
Rels
Rayn
Vivax
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 21:19 GMT
#473
Ok caught up.

Pretty ok with BM and LS now.

Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.

BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.

Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.

Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 21:20 GMT
#474
On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i seriously think BM is town now.
BM i don't think your read on Rels is accurate, i think he is quite obviously town.
I will re-evaluate TT tomorrow, but i still think he is town.
I think FF has a decent chance of being mafia.

well even if i think they might be town i want to break up their buddy buddy circlejerk


Your just jealous of what we have
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 21:30 GMT
#477
^ All good reasons as to why I choose the word "leaning"

Other than Rayn, Rels and Vivax I'm not confidently reading anyone as town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 21:41 GMT
#479
So what are you scumreading HtS then rayn?

She pointed out and responded to stuff as she read through the thread, endgaged you and Rels regarding her "I'm not a martyr" thing, then goes looking into other games to further her reads.

Tone and actions all seem towny to me. Possible for these things to come from scum HtS I suppose, I do believe she is pretty capable as mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 375
Vindicta 70
gerald23 29
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37313
Sea 5227
Horang2 2832
Shuttle 2045
Mini 1143
ggaemo 438
Mong 234
actioN 168
sorry 109
Pusan 72
[ Show more ]
sSak 62
Backho 45
ToSsGirL 37
Aegong 34
scan(afreeca) 33
Rock 21
Terrorterran 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
soO 13
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6399
XcaliburYe140
League of Legends
Rex64
Counter-Strike
fl0m3030
Other Games
hiko696
ToD266
Hui .242
Sick200
QueenE103
ArmadaUGS78
XaKoH 73
Liquid`VortiX66
Trikslyr41
KnowMe38
FrodaN18
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL29060
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 20
• LUISG 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 30
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis10317
• Jankos2565
• TFBlade948
Other Games
• Shiphtur1
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h 12m
Replay Cast
17h 12m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
20h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 17h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
1d 18h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 20h
OSC
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.