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With this players list all I'm going to do is spin the sheep wheel and act towny | ||
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On September 14 2015 20:53 Half the Sky wrote: My #yolo predictions: 180+ page D1 600+ page game Scumteam: rayn, Damdred, geript #youhearditherefirst #bowtomyclairvoyance gl hf I wouldn't mind that scum team tbh would be fun | ||
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 Why god why | ||
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but I'm confirmed town | ||
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Ritoky koshi sorta leaning moose ceph good good | ||
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I don't want to pocket you so early palmar | ||
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But really I do think palmar might be town. So there's that I just like getting reactions from him. Ceph I think looks good from interactions and I don't think koshi looks scummy either. | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well your read on Moosy is terrible. I agree with other reads. I like my other reads besides moosey I think, the others I'm decently confident in | ||
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Its going to be a hard fame if more people show up and look super town. I'm pretty certain rayn is town though. Geript could be scum though. | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:31 Cephiro wrote: @Damdred: Is there a particular reason you want to push your reads out that much that early? I don't mind you sharing your reads at all, that's rarely a bad thing. But we're in a point of the game where you hardly have any proper information to correctly peg someone with. And thus far you're just posting every few minutes saying who you're learning town/scum on, at a point where it's extremely unlikely you even have a proper opinion of stuff yourself. As in, don't you think you could be contributing more by asking questions or creating content in other ways, rather than just constantly throwing out reads of "X seems town, Y might not be"? I'm really good at reading people I play with a lot on little content, rayn is a good example ritoky is probably the best example. I generally can tell very early with a good percentage. Do I think that I could get more out of questions? I'm not sure currently the only people in susicuous of are geript. I don't know about wilie and JAT is a null. So I have a lot of town reads online where my questions would be better served with someone who hasn't shown up yet. And I'm not sure if its true that I can't have proper opinions this early | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote: one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation? Does it help I feel rather motivated? For now at least | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am curious, where is this content from ritoky you are talking about? As stupid as it sounds early on its just as indicative of ritoky non content vs content. His first few posts is a way that he would post coming from a town rit as its pretty care free and non caring. His later couple posts while seeming to play on humor do focus oj a point from my point of view at least. Its just a way I think he plays from a town perspective. | ||
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to expound a small bit this string of posts while rit isn't trolling he's after a point he wnats to make. and I think its towny direction | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:53 Cephiro wrote: I have to admit this post sounds a bit off to me. If you're town, you wouldn't really care as much about consistency since whatever you say will be your true opinion on the persons you read. Of course you want to play properly so the town benefits more, but you sound a bit like "I need to pay extra attention to what I do so I won't get called out for inconsistencies." As far as I know, mafia are usually much more concerned about that kind of stuff than town. Of course no town wants to be misread as scum as it's not beneficial for them, but they don't have the "innate fear of being caught" for an inconsistency. Just saying what I think. I don't know how you got I worry about inconsistencies at all from my post when I just said its a lot of work constantly re evaluating early reads as the game progresses? | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:03 Cephiro wrote: Actually I don't suggest playing this way at all it requires me to care and reevaluate to often and to much. This is the sentence that I'm referring to. I could easily be misreading it by giving my conclusion too much power over the true meaning of it. (Something I even mentioned earlier shouldn't be done, talk about being a hypocrite.) It just seemed like it was more of a "This playstyle is a burden on me" (which, if you're town, should be no issue since you've decided to pursue that style yourself, thus calling it a burden seems a bit contradictory), rather than "I wouldn't suggest this playstyle for others". But I might be just reading too much into it. | ||
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Anyway it takes a lot of time and energy to play like I play later in the game. There's nothing in the post that says I don't like being inconsostant heck I already have at least one inconsistent read already and I don't care lol. You are reading to much into it I think. | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote: I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred isnt town. Fixed that for you | ||
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The geript scum read is interesting because he's acting oddly at this point. Usually when he's in a game with me he know he can read me rather well and has caught me as scum a couple times and can read me town generally well. However he's not even waiting or trying to see if I can give some of my damdred town goodness that I am horrendous at faking. Instead he's content on disparaging my reads to a point and being content in saying he wants to lynch me. He also is missing some of his normal flair which isn't really indicative | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: btw, rayn is scummy for assuming things about me. i think lynching him should be a fine start to this game. why | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: townpile: Cephiro Palmar Damdred Koshi ritoky maybe town pile: marvellosity idk pile: Onegu Wile E. Coyote justanothertownie TheWarWaffle scumpile: MoosyDoosy geript I'm ok board with this id move moose up to idk near the middle and hat near the bottom though. I'll explain the jat read a bit later... | ||
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On September 15 2015 09:02 marvellosity wrote: i'm being dragged off, i'll finish catching up tomorrow and have all day at work to play something's come over me and i may actually have something of a townread on damdred, which i'm not sure i could count given my record and i can work with rayn for sure. Palmar doesn't really deserve the number of townreads he has at this point, it's way too early. this is a dangerous new world | ||
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Geript has a few posts that give me a small amount of pause that he could potentially be town like his moosey read is something that he would do when he's town. But he just is lacking some form of curiosity he might has here. That being said that one read on moosey really has me doubting my scum read currently. It just looks so towny of him to do. The more I think about it the more I want to town read him and I defdinately don't want to lynch him now... | ||
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On September 15 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: I has question. What do you think of Cephiro? I'm pretty sure that ceph is town in this situation. His initial posts up till now just seem like someone who is trying to figure things out. While he does ogo slightly over board in the discourse with koshi I think he comes out looking pretty good and seems to be only looking for scum. And when pressed he does seem to have some form of thoughts about what's going on which is a good point for him. He also seems to have decent follow up and tries to catch people by getting them in discourse if that makes sense. At one point he questioned me because he thought I was implying one thing when I wasn't. The usual scum mindset would be push this and see where it goes instead ceph wanted me to explain myself and was able to somewhat cone to an understanding. That also felt towny. | ||
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I would think someone in the jat, waffle, oneg type region. Or at least id be satisfied lynching into that group right at this moment even though two are somewhat lurkers | ||
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Your right it is I have more town than scum reads and null reads. Jat is the closest thing to a scum read currently but I'm still parsing that and trying to figure out how to explain it meh. But yeah who then am I missing rit that you want to lymch | ||
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On September 15 2015 11:01 MoosyDoosy wrote: I understand the last part but I don't particularly like the rest. I'll keep it in mind though. Eirger way I don't think that ceph will ever be lynched today well better to look elsewhere now anyway so where to next. | ||
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Just seems a bit suicidal with that explanation | ||
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We've both seen geript do this sorta as town, but I don't think I've seen him do it as mafia before. No real outs high chance of instantly getting lynched, maybe he's just having horrible mafia play but... I kinda doubt it | ||
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onegu waffle jat willie are the people I want to lynch into. 2 would be policy (oneg, waffle) out of those two I would go with waffle though. Jat and wil, wile wins out his last few posts have just hit my scum radar hard. His long list post says a lot without a good amount of actual solid conclusions and his posts on geript just feel off to a point. Its like pushing scum on someone and trying to dig up. like his last post just look at it just seems odd if he thinks geripts scum why would he care if he cares? Doesn't make any sense and just looks like scum trying to help slow push a wagon. | ||
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And it is annoying that geript isn't interacting with me at all | ||
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On September 15 2015 14:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Whats odd about me pointing out geript saying scummy/anti village things. Stick to meta reads fello This is a classic example of you trying to discredit someone. You don't tackle the argument at all but attack the person instead. And geript you are being an idiot, the game in question you kept trying to interact and wait on me to give reads and it never came really. Here in rife with things to talk about but you fail to talk at all. I just don't get it, on one hand I can see town geript being stupid like palmar. But I don't see town geript not caring enough to do anything else. Bah. | ||
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On September 15 2015 14:13 Onegu wrote: You trying to pocket me? It might be working. My pocket is big enough for you to sleep eat and vote in. | ||
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I'm about to sleep but... I'm still not sure that geript is mafia like I'm in the spot where I think he's still probably town. I just think he can be this inconsistent as town but idk....meh I'm sleeping on it | ||
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Besides that morning I'm basically caught up, you spammy bastards. ^^ | ||
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Gwript still somewhat troubles me some of the things he's come back with feel more towny than scummy today. I'm still leaning town on him. I know the interactions between jat and rayn were interesting to me though. Its a bit hard to explain but part of it is that jat felt a bit toned down and trying to get along during the discourse instead of his generally fillterless self. This is going to be impossible for me to push probably but maybe someone will listen to me. Besides that the post about jat finding wil scummy and instead of giving more thoughts on scummy thing aettles on talking about geript without a conclusion is interesting I suppose. | ||
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Vut honestly I think the game is potentially pretty easy, I think waffle is a good bet, jat and then we go from there tbh. | ||
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The way he thought Willie was scummy but didn't really push it and just went about. But most of it is a tone/meta type stuffs | ||
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On September 16 2015 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not 100% sure but i am 90% sure he will not find a game like he says. Which makes him 100% mafia. Why you do this rayn | ||
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But I don't think the remembering or the other him mafia not make. | ||
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On September 16 2015 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: You never ever ever ever ever make this post as town. You just do not do it. No. no. no. NO! He made q mistake oh well | ||
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I know things | ||
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jat looks like shit still, there was one point he looked towny though. But his ransom pushing on Marv for nai stuff is just crappy. And obviously Marv is going to omgus jat here that's what Marv does early teehee Marv never reads me  (.And people poking about a drop off are kinda....stupid to a degreee, I'm never really spammy. Oh well | ||
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Marvs right about waffle though | ||
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1) Wil is still a decent lynch, his content lacks a bit of drive to find scum rather focusing on other side things it feels like. I would lynch him. 2) I still think warwaffle is scum here. If you look at his other newb games he does say some smart things and fights back at points. He does afk a lot though anyway so that's a negative towards it but never this much. 3) I still don't really like JAT, while he does seem more involved it just seems like he's not doing much in the way of actually being useful in his normal way. Throws a lot of dirt before settling gibes up on scum reads because they seem unlun hable today. 4) I might just sheep Marv. but I'm here for some talki | ||
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Ceph idk I want to see more from before I decide again. Pretty undecided. | ||
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On September 17 2015 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred have you read the whole thread? Maybe? I've been spot reading mostly been at the tailors all day getting fitted for suit | ||
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On September 17 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred do you have anything to say about this? Just don't want to lynch geript even if what he says is strange. I might lynch idk probably better lynched today | ||
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Idiots the lot of you. Idc if what I say contradicts myself I don't feel comfortable lynching geript. Moosey probably isn't mafia its totally dumb reasoning to lynch him. But he could be scum I guess just lynching him for GB tier reasoning. | ||
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I just don't want to lynch him today idk | ||
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Tge context of the actual progression is different. It didn't go, scum read-does same thibgs- town read it went scum read-made other reads I liked-(I)made posts waffling on read- decides doesn't want to lynch | ||
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On September 17 2015 04:41 ritoky wrote: yo damd, why you avoiding me like the plague? did i get uglier? Cause I think your town meh | ||
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Moose I'm decently sure is town here though | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:08 ritoky wrote: rayn do you think the top 2 lynch wagons voting on coyote rather than eachother says anything about their alignments? This is a nice point I think | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:15 geript wrote: I don't think moosy is a real wagon except perhaps in rayn's world. Overall, it's an interesting thought. But meh. I don't think it's really related to either of their alignments. hiws moosey not a real wagon when he's tied for lead I believe in votes | ||
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I liked a feeling I got from him just now | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: And Wile is never going to be mafia ffs. Yo add onto this there's this moment that just happened. He was obviously catching up in thread and he had this ah ha moment when he thought he caught moosey. It just seemed so legitimate and honest and such a town reaction. Pretty sure rayns right on him. But I think we lynch jat | ||
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will be numerous. Though it means if I think jat is scum that probably means geript is probable mafia. | ||
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Basic run down 1) isn't doing a lot to try to push the thread 2) His scum reads are taken off the table if thread sentiment is against lynching them. Pushing east targets to a point. 3) Has complained most of the game about being scum read even though he isn't doing anything besides arguing. 4) Has a filter a bit usually when he's town he says whatever and is curious... Here he is amendable and lacks curiosity to a point. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:50 geript wrote: Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I'm not a lazy fuck. Yes I'm sheeping. That's not fucking lazy. I'm not fucking ignoring the thread. I'm actively reading it. I've recognized that I don't have to time like I usualyl do to spend 8-10 hours actively in the thread and pressuring, reading and rereading, thinking, etc. I have a life to live. I get fucked over by interviewing for job that the place supposedly already has filled and gets put back to PRN. I want to extend my abilities as a nurse to be more marketable and get more pay/better job. Fuck you. Fuck Damdred too for posting that. It's not a nice thing to say; I'm not even sure it's even fucking true. But I'm not going to fucking waste my time playing a game where people don't fucking value my opinions. Fuck that. I'll go over and do soemthing that actually furthers my life instead of get stuck here being a loser trying to find scraps of work to pay for food, a place to stay, chip away at my college debt and if I'm lucky pay for a doctor's visit when I need one. Fuck you. Seriously go fuck yourself. What did I post? I only said you could be mafia but I don't want to lynch you? Literally the only negative I said was that people kept asking for explanations and you didn't give them that's it... | ||
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onegu is a crapshoot at best. If we were doing policy we should of done waffle. | ||
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we need to consolidate on hat or on moosey. If your vote is elsewhere you are being worthless and anti town | ||
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moosey could be scum but I don't think its for these reasons at all. lynch jat | ||
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On September 17 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote: has Wile redeemed himself then? question is for anyone yes he did something I think was super towny | ||
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He was doing catch up posts where he was commenting as he was coming. And he came to a moosey post and it felt like a ah ha moment where it felt like he had caught moosey in something then mildly dissapointed that others had picked up on it. It just felt super towny | ||
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@Marv jat pushed me a little but dropped it until rayn started waffling because of my geript progression. And activity low today. | ||
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cause bold prediction it will happen | ||
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First things first there was 0 reason really to town read jat d1 and a decent amount of reasons to kill him. He might say things I've sad are blatant lies but even if he is town he's the most biased person in the thread in that regard and I'm not lying. Secondly I might be wrong but I haven't been spectacularly wrong this game most my reads have been pretty good. Most of the things jats pulling against me is pretty nai. Also I've talked a lot about geript for a few reasons 1) I'm generally good at reading geript 2) he was a point of contention for a lot of the early thread 3) when I was talking about other things near eod rayn kept asking me about geript up to a point. | ||
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Like his moosey read felt like town geript and to a lesser extent even his rayn scum read while lacking some logical jumps seems like something he would do as town. a lot of his reads feel like what he does as town. I'm still leaning town tbh but I want to hedge | ||
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Its pretty hypocritical to say that someone has been spectaculary wrong all game and then give them crap for saying the opposite. How the hell do you know my reads are bad firstly? Secondly of course I think my reads are good you idiots. god damn | ||
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Its hypocritical to say damdred is hugely wrong on all his reads if I'm only wrong on one read which is on you supposedly. You didn't do anything towny d1 and a lot of the people you town read actually agreed with a lot of what I said. SO OH WELL. | ||
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So lynch me jat do it. I bet you can't because nobody will follow you on it | ||
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And I said plenty about you, rayn agreed with some of it. Palmar agreed with a good portion etc. | ||
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I'll quote the read for palmar though | ||
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On September 18 2015 10:57 Koshi wrote: Probably a slip. I guess mafia knows what rayn flipped. Also, strange comment to make when you are a watcher. TBH this actually makes his claim a bit more believable. Rayn did hard claim mason and no cop claimed before his post (?) so maybe he blurted his self out. But visiting koshi over watching rayn is strange | ||
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Uf he's a watcher, how did he know you didn't move | ||
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1.Cephiro 3.Palmar 4.marvellosity 5.justanothertownie 9.geript 5 people left unconfirmed (took myself out) sadly night kills won't give us any information from here out but if we assume that oneg was a miss and Scott isn't doing an amazing fake red check on his partner. The game is interesting. | ||
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Marv could be an interesting partner here as well as palm... It actually makes geript looked better a bit as well | ||
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Ceph I still need to read uo more on but rits right that it makes him highly likely for town, yay mind meld. Which just leaves jat, Marv, palmar. If there are two partners left alive. | ||
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And its not quite a push but meh. There's a few interesting connections between all 5 (to me) who are unconfirmed. Wile is pretty informative lynch | ||
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@Marv, I know I cock blocked the wile lynch a small bit but could you tell me your thought process to take what I said and just throw a wile lynch off the table? This is a bit hypocritical question as I think my point was ok but its bad now to << Palmar could of super pocketed me though this game the fear of that is real atm. | ||
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One of the original reasons that I thought wile was scum was his call out and pushing geript. One thing in particular was when he called geript out for not caring if someone was scum or mafia. It was such a weird thing and was super opportunistic at that point when people were piling on geript. I think it makes him town, so if I take ceph out for pushing wile instead of going straight to save himself I just arrive at jat palmar and Marv. its interesting... I'll have a small amount of time to read over all three but right now id probably go jat, palm, Marv maybe switch Marv and palmar just depends. If jat is scum id put palmar last though | ||
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On September 18 2015 12:33 Koshi wrote: I just remember a super awkward conversation between jat and wile. Something with "is this real life". Didnt I have jat palmar wile as my first scumteam? I am so good. I just read that conversation yeah it was pretty awkward. | ||
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On September 18 2015 13:26 geript wrote: Imo def not palmar and maybe not Marv. But in Jat's defense, the only reason why I voted correctly today is because Wile called me shit. Which isn't exactly a good track record. I mean, other than mafia Rayn. do you think mafia cep instead of just hammering moose pushes scum mate wile near eod or hops on town jat? Though to be fair its considerable that jat/moose both town Marv and ce are scum and both don't care and wile wasn't getting momentum at the end. | ||
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Like Idk who's mafia in this situation for sure besides wile. Oart of me wants to take easy road and say, jat for weird interactions saying he has scummy feelings on wile never pushing instead arguing about other things. And that would make palmar probably town to an extent as a his there is weird but not out of palmars scope. Which would probably make Marv his partner as cep would of been on two mafia wile then jat. If jat is town means its more likely palmar+ ceph. The votes d1 don't mean much. Marv+ce is also possible because of how quick Marv was able to get off ce and just sheep rayn to an extent. Its a weird situation where I think geript is least likely to be mafia. Cer is probably next, and then its a jumble. But if jats scum I'd stick to Marv is probable partner | ||
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On September 18 2015 11:39 ritoky wrote: So what you're saying was Onegu was a miss and you have 2 partners alive? Got it. ##vote: Wile Next time check the OP before you fake claim. I don't get how you say there are def two partners still though. Meh hard choices hard choices | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 17:37 justanothertownie wrote: Yep, Wiles post was bad and he might be mafia. For geript I also share your concerns. For most people I would call rayns case a pretty damn strong case for day1. But geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times. On September 15 2015 20:00 justanothertownie wrote: He is in the geript/Wile/Onegu/(Palmar) pile of people who did not seem towny so far. On September 17 2015 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: I started reading Wiles filter fully expecting to convince myself that he is the best lynch today but I just can't seem to. I still disagree strongly with a lot of the stuff he said but I am not sure it actually makes him mafia. I can see some sort of train of thought reading his filter. This is annoying. End of D1 Start N1 On September 17 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote: Disclaimer: I did not really read what happened since I left yesterday yet. Only took a glance over the result and some posts that caught my eye so far. So background stuff: I said this at the beginning of the game: And I still very much think so. SL played video mafia and knows a lot about it so this kind of backstory makes sense for him to invent. He also knows this particular smurf of slam and that other people can use it since I did so when I carried his useless ass as scum in void mafia. His condescending attitude and weird opinion on certain things (mentioning mathematics etc.) also fits perfectly. Now to the juicy part: This is a typical SL mistake and it happens multiple times in his filter. I already wondered when I saw it but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt because he isn't the only one I ever saw doing this. This one however I only ever saw Sicklucker make and nobody else: Absolutely characteristic of him. He did a decent job at hiding for a while but yesterday he slipped up. I am confident this is Sicklucker. On September 17 2015 19:57 justanothertownie wrote: This guy will have to die sooner rather than later. On September 17 2015 20:05 justanothertownie wrote: I never ever townread you broski. On September 18 2015 00:10 justanothertownie wrote: You even admit it yourself. I HAD done stuff at the point damdred made that post. Therefore it IS a lie. And notice how damdred never ever talks about anything I said all game. He simply does not care, he just wants to lynch me. And to the Wile thing: Moosy was Wiles top mafiaread almost all game right? The thing we are talking about is the main reason why people scumread Moosy before rayn went full retard. And it wasn't a throwaway comment someone made at some point. It was actually said by multiple people and was a big point of discussion. So you are telling me Wile does not know why his top mafiaread is being scumread. The conclusion is that he is either totally disinterested in his top mafiaread or that he is acting. Both heavily point towards him being mafia. Ok context sake the no jat doesn't agree on wile was when Rayn hard town read him, and jat also put him in a lynch list as well. The D1 push on wile isn't much of a push at all, and he ends up sorta town reading him deciding the lynch is between me and ceph d1. N1 he does have a more concerted push on Wile, but just for context he does decide that I am a better lynch on several occasions and pushes for me over wile during the night. But his push does look better during the night. Overall it doesn't quite clear JAT, and if wile is SL its nai because obviously jat hates him and always busses him as scum meh. But n1 does look slightly better than jat, but I don't think he can say that he was pushing wile super hard all game either meh. Especially with the bolded which I want an explanation on. | ||
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mber 17 2015 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: I started reading Wiles filter fully expecting to convince myself that he is the best lynch today but I just can't seem to. I still disagree strongly with a lot of the stuff he said but I am not sure it actually makes him mafia. I can see some sort of train of thought reading his filter. This is annoying. This post is the exact opposite of hard pushing him why did you decide this specifically. | ||
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Or how not pushing d1 and pushing ok n1 makes you town. And to the comment you don't really treat scum partners this way void says you do. You bussed Hts I believe while hard bussing SL at the same time. | ||
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You aren't explaining your positions. You say that you hard pushed wile all game when you soft pushed for some of d1 but then eliminated him for reasons you refuse to explain fully. You say you don't bus when you obviously do. And instead of playing mafia you are only personally attacking people which is nai for you. So overall you look like a decent lynch | ||
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You weren't forced to bus in void and you did. Also rayn town read me what are you on about | ||
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On September 18 2015 21:46 Koshi wrote: I remember because normally Damdred always put himself in the "not confirmed" pile of people even if he is confirmed town to himself, and that game he didn't for the first time in his analysis, and this game he also left himself out. And he explained why he left himself out. meta bois it is real XXX is one game I did the exact same thing, holy guardians I believe as well and guardians of the galaxy. So nah this isn't right sadly. | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: But Damdred is town why would you want to lynch him? On September 15 2015 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: townpile: Cephiro Palmar Damdred Koshi ritoky maybe town pile: marvellosity idk pile: Onegu Wile E. Coyote justanothertownie TheWarWaffle scumpile: MoosyDoosy geript On September 15 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: who cares? Damdred is town. On September 17 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wile E. Coyote Palmar marvellosity TheWarWaffle Damdred ritoky Koshi i am really really really sure these people are town. Onto Wile and Waffle, i am really good at reading people from other places because i actually do play in other places aswell, and i can play quite well there aswell; Wile's play makes no sense as mafia and it doesn't look like he has a team behind him, like he is not pushing any agenda. Regardless of if his reads are good or not or if he makes sense or not. Waffle is almost definitely town because he had this really ridiculous "if Moosy flips mafia then rayn is godfather" thought process. It doesn't make any sense for him to make the post as mafia because he would have to explain the logic behind it (there literally is no logic lol) and he would know he is fucked. Basically the most likely answer is he actually has some bad reason to think so and it makes him town. On September 17 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: One of the vets is mafia. Doesn't have a clear read on me/Damdred (both are obviously town). Doesn't CARE to figure out if it is Koshi/JAT. conclusion; rayn is most likely mafia from the vet circle.  On September 17 2015 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm is Damdred actually mafia? (this one needs thread context but we had a disagreement over a geript read and he said fair enough later) On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro. and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... (this one is during our disagreement) On September 17 2015 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: But damdred is not mafia if wile + cephiro are. Because geript is scum aswell. On September 17 2015 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i am pretty good at reading damdred and i thought he was town early on. So yeah heres all rayns reads on me... Sooo where does he hard scum me? | ||
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On September 18 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, rayn did not hard scumread damdred night1 but he called him mafia day1 and continued to say this: The only post that even closely resembles a townread is this but he is talking about the early game here: And it is easily overwritten by this: Jat you said rayn called me scum d1 and continued to say it when he never did. You can read into that post all you want but he didn't call me scum and he said town just that your post is logical... | ||
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1) You are reading mw scum for a passive voice when the exact opposite has been true this game. I have given reads some in great detailed when asked for. Have pushed my reads and tried to get the lynch I wanted. None of these things have been passive. 2) Your an idiot ritoky because you are lynching someone with what amounts to a green check at this point. When you just got done getting lynched in another game with a green check on you. 3) I haven't read any of the game tbh since Friday afternoon maybe Thursday idk when my last post was. But I do know mafia needs two lynches to win the game and anyone who says it doesn't latter which two we lynch is playing dangerous game shrug. | ||
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On September 21 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote: you were passive prior to me saying you were passive, then you stopped doing it. i am not lynching you right now. i am trying to fucking pressure people into doing shit since they have been fucking off with minimal effort for a decent while now. sorry for trying to win the damn game for town. case and point. then lynch me either I'll do something when I feel like it after I've recovered or I won't pressure won't work on me. | ||
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Though town damdred pushed against that as well so not as iron clad. But I'm pretty sure that's partly palmars reasoning | ||
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But yes if Marv is the last mafia id think he would just concede at this point. | ||
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Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread. Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch. Lije its a really possible scum team. | ||
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totally over the top justification on someone who has all the votes. | ||
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You and rit are adorable though | ||
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I really don't care if I get lynched doesn't matter, and that's not why I called your play shit anyway so stop making things up. | ||
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1) You totally backed off your wile scum read d1, you didn't push wile with any force until n1. Before that it was barely soft pushing 2) I never ridiculed you for scum reading Marv. Honestly jat you can go fuck yourself and that horribly sized ego. My play before I got busy was decent nit good, if your town I did make that bad read but otherwise my reads weren't horribly wrong | ||
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On September 23 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote: lol, who is the revisionist now. I don't care dude. Play the damn game if you are town or you have 0 right to call anyones play shit ever again. It is absolutely understandable that you did not play over the weekend. I know your excuse and I never attacked you for that. But not doing anything now is just unacceptable. Firstly in not being a revisionist everything I've said is documented in my filter. And neither of the things you are saying are factual. And I am playing in pretty well documented that I think ceph is the last mafia at this point with Marv. It is pretty apparent with how quickly Marv jumped off cephbfor non reasons and hammered someone who he didn't want to lynch earlier. Though this could point to your being mafia as well I think its more likely its ceph in that situation. We gave him a decent amount of credit for trying to push another lynch in scum mate wile but it is a bit wifom since he gave up the push on wile so quickly especially when two other wagons were fighting and it was possible to go on someone else. And he was really concerned about saving his own neck staring he would vote moosey to save himself. | ||
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There's only three possibilities in Ceph, palmar, and geript. (if I exclude you) Geript is the most likely lynch after me if I'm lynched and ceph gets another day pass. I don't think he's scum, he hasn't cared and been as aggressive as he normally would bit he has no self preservation or end game that I can see besides getting lynched quite possibly tommorow or in lylo there is no real win there I think. What would his plan be, would be lylo with ceph, geript and jat in that world... And the only play is try to convince town ceph that jat is the mafia. I just don't see a scum geript not trying to get on more peoples good sides meh. He's probably the least likely. Palmar is the scariest in this situation. I think he's been decently town the whole game but I don't think that this whole game is outside his wheel house. There's been a plan of action, d1 he is generally town read has two town wagons up. D2 busses wile. D3 helps drive bus on Marv. Has at least two mislynches still in game is in a good spot. Its pretty scary tbh. I've went over ceph. ATM I'm in the world where its Ceph, palmar, jat, geript from most to least likely | ||
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On September 17 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote: I am entertaining it. if ceph produces townie content and wile doesn't especially. Like what prompts this statement and totally ends with Marv unvoting with no explanation at all? And tells ceph he's super scumm right before it | ||
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I just hate that post meh | ||
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JAT: Though thread prescense was insanely down d1 and he lacked his normal flair and push his n1 push on confirmed scum wile was insanely good. His continued effort through d2 and into d3 and his early push and continued push on Marv is great for him. THERE IS A SLIGHT TINFOIL that he bussed both but the pushes came at a horrible time for a bus and I highly doubt it at this juncture. Probably town. Palmar has called out Marv pretty successfully the entirity of the game. Has seemed to care about being pro town and helping the thread. He seems to be pretty towny, there is a slight tin foil that palmar has been working the entire thread and it worries me. I don't think its super likely but its a real possibility especially in lylo if he makes it. Geript is probably the biggest wild card. His reluctance to do a lot d1 is worrying but he had a pretty towny read on moosey that made me doubt my initial scum read on him. He did push wile for idiotic reasons d2 but its ok, with his lack of survivability in game coupled with his attitude and mets its highly likely he's town. | ||
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Honestly there are some valid reasons to acum read you, you've made weird posts. The interactions between you and presumably scum Marv are interesting. And your activity while a smaller issue has been non existent. You can say its because we have had total afk lynches hut that's not so good tbh. Its one of the reasons if jat is scum we gave him the game (which I doubt). | ||
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This isn't about dick measuring or arguing this is about participating and trying to help town win. And all you do is try to deflect and blame the rest of the town or give many big opinions or show why your top scum read is your top read. | ||
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Ceph looks the worst out of the unconfirmed,group | ||
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On September 23 2015 06:32 Cephiro wrote: Pushed and voted Wile D1 until I swapped at the end because people weren't getting on him. Been telling you marv is scum since game started. GET FUCKED. Think I'm just gonna idle the night with my no substance. NOPE. BYE. Reading comprehension you lack it to a degree. | ||
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Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible. First the proposed setup this game is Masons(rayn and koshi) Tracker (scott) Unaware Miller_(moosey) Vigilante (ritoky) Vs Goon(marv) Rb(wile) Janitor(?) This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia. It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him. Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die | ||
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Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles. | ||
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And night is the best tile to scum,hunt .. You and geript are the best tracks if Scott is real. Me I'm a horrid track and I'm probably getting lynched anywsy | ||
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Palmar might be a good track but I just think he's been pretty towns this game, has seemed generally pro town, he could,of pocketed me a bit but I don't think so. Few posts lately have been trying to clear lynchable players to,shrink the Poe which is very town. | ||
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If you could just humor me and post why people should read you town. And why you think Scott is scum of course. | ||
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Bit of a weird part of a post to que up on I suppose | ||
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More than likely geript is going to be lynched today with an outside shot of me. I believe geript is town and I know I'm town. Here's the reasons I think geript is town. 1) A real lack of a drive to survive. If he's scum he needs to get a mislynch to get into mylo and then another to win the game. The obvious play here is to push either Damdred or Ceph today. Instead he takes the much more suicidal way of going about the voting he tackles jat. 2) Building on that Geeipt has one person who thinks he has a shot of not being scum here (me). And I don't have the thread presence to save him obviously so what's the play? Poke at what most consider town jat and hope you get ignored? While this is somewhat nai and a bit of conjecture I don't believe geript would do this as scum he would more than likely start pushing ver or myself to get into a winnable situation. And its not where he's at or where he's going. Besides that he has been incredibly wrong this game has had 0 impact on the lynch and just doesn't care as much and I see this coming from a more town aligned geript. Its a lot of feelings and what I expect from geript but id he's just going to suicide he would just concede probably. | ||
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and honestly if I trust you on your ceph read I have to lynch palm today yea? | ||
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The super combativeness to some extent even goes in his favor I guess. Some of the pushes look pretty good, the wile push looks good. But its tempered with the thought rayn is in the game and I'm arguing for another lynch so its a bit difficult to see anything else foing through besides those two...but its still a point in his favor. His Marv push by memory isn't as good as he was making it to be to a point. But he did say he thought Marv was scum. But Marv got off him fast and idk if Marv tried to push anything on him d2. And activity is still me which is just meh... | ||
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Like I'm fairly certain geript is town Rit is lock town I was reading marvs filter and its pretty filled with wifom. Reading his filter his lynch order if he could lived seemed to be, geript, cerph then me. He was super hedgy on me and contradicted what he thought of geript at points. His read progressions on hat feel flawed to a poin, goes from a decent sized acum read to a town read. Like maybe rits right about ceph Marv did push him a good bit even after wile was found out. He would be in danger of getting lynched the next day especially with his attitude. Even his palmar interactions seem strange to me. Bad idea to read his filte ri think. just have to read jats filter again and palmar and see what I can find | ||
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I'm pretty sure he's town in this situation. He seems to waver about Marv a good bit. Pushes Marv at good times for town palmar to do so and while it is in his wheel house especially the pressure n1 just seems way out of place for a palmar and Marv scum team. | ||
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I'll read him in the morning | ||
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I'd probably lynch geript first but id reverse ceph and damdred in your list and lynch ceroh over damdred. But he was going pretty 50/50 on me keeping options open meh | ||
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On September 18 2015 19:54 marvellosity wrote: I would lynch Cephiro above Damdred fo sho. And we agree on geript. fiddle you/me, and voila. I just misremembered this post since it said it agreed with you on geript which I'm curious what changed exactly between here and now to take geript from least likely to top scum by a mile? Its not like his d1 or 2 was super town to most anyway? | ||
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On September 24 2015 22:45 Palmar wrote: I would probably not try to rely too much on marv's filter to make reads. I agree with this also there's a lot of wifom in there | ||
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Total wifom this situation I just can't see geript not conceding I guess. but I hope I'm wrong and games over | ||
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Tgere are better things to point to. And no sometimes geript doesn't have trains of thoughts and he does have some on you if I agree or disagree that's not important. but if geript needs 2 lynches he's not escaping this one so what's the plan | ||
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Its so pointless if he's town zzz... If he's scum ot has a point I suppose. | ||
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Geript might be wrong on some things or interpreting things differently than others but... Eh its not worth it at all to turn the thread into jat trying to beat down anyone who thinks he might be scum. so I'll go eat lunch | ||
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On September 25 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote: Then show us why. For having such a good read on him you do not seem very concerned about him getting lynched right now. I've shown you why and talked about it but its discounted so I really don't care and I hope I'm wrong and the games over but I'm pretty sure I'm right shrug. k bye | ||
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Before Marc came and invited cerph he was leading the vote over moosey and jat by a fair margin. At that point at least. Marc does invite for no reason to me and totally stops pushing him,when he was here eod, already eliminated jat s(him being cerph). Previously Marc kept saying how crummy he was and if not for,meta would be 5x more crummy. When I looked through Mar vs filter he haphazardly pushed him past that just mentioning him in passing without any real thoughts. That being said if cerph is town there's no reason foe scum Marc to push him d1 when rayn is yelling for sheep. But it's also a great opportunity to save a partner. On the flip,side it could point to a hat scum with no other mafia wanting to go on him. But qifom if it's sl I think he hammers jat for lolz post game and town cred as its the most likely play for sl. Overall it,makes me think cerph is scum, marv saves partner by unvoting going on moosey. Had two town wagons d1 with a scum losing reaction d1 due to myself and rayn. That's just me atm, there are other possibilities such as Palomar but I don't think,so. | ||
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In two games at the same time, hosted by Palomar and Marv. I totally afkd that game to rather play this game because I couldn't be assed in my favorite setup to put in effort here. Obviously I'm town. You have now lost soul read status on me rot and that makes me a sad | ||
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On September 25 2015 08:59 Cephiro wrote: Around, gonna re-read, post my opinions on all the relevant players (Jat, geript, Palmar, Damdred). If I don't faint from bashing my head against the wall too much, because reading this shit makes me regret signing up for this game. Mostly due to these two reasons: 1) I do not understand how the fuck someone thinks it's possible for me to be part of a Wile+marv scumteam as the third person with how I've played. I've pointed out why and quoted my own case explaining why that doesn't happen even if hell froze over, so it's really making me wonder how thick Damdred is or if he has to go for me because he's scum and thinks he won't get anyone else lynched. 2) Fucking. Activity. Bullshit. Can you fucking stop repeating the same retarded shit over and over again? I've come around to post whenever it has been relevant and had time to do so. You people are out of your fucking minds if you think the best way to play mafia is to argue with everyone for the sake of arguing and getting filter for the first 10 pages, then talk about how fucking huge your penis is for the next 10. Just because I'm not around the moment you want me to be doesn't mean I don't care about the game. So go shove a clock up your asses and listen to it tick if you don't have anything better to do. Related to the time thing, I will be traveling most of tomorrow and will only be partially available later on closer to the lynch deadline. (Unless internet abandons me at my destination for w/e reason). So after I'm done re-reading and posting my stuff, feel free to ask questions if you're around, because after that you'll have to wait till near lynchtime. 1) we have spent the majority of the game discussing why anyone could be scum. So being,butt hurt against legitimate reasoning is bad. 2) Activity is indicative to an extent no matter how you turn it. Only certain players can maintain high activity, you are a lurjer and you aren't even up for lynch. You haven't participated in the game past d1 to any extent, besides complaining about things that aren't even happening ie dick reassuring for the most part. You aren't helping town and you are a liability if I was scum I'd lynch geript then you in lylo. That's the right play. | ||
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2) This point is nai, its basically going into mylo tommorow I'm looking ay everyone and reinforcing my reads where I can. Three people jat, palmar and ceph only two do I think have a higher possibility of flipping scum. 3) I need two mislynches if I'm scum. I can't push geript tommorow if he isn't lynched today which I don't want. If I can't waffle on anyone like you claim I've already lost, and obviously you don't know how a scumdred plays. And the quote itself you use to justify voting me contradicts your 3b point directly. I'm trying to advert the geript lynch which will result in my scum read being lynched. Overall nothing presented here makes me mafia at all, and its made in such a way that when I flip town he can just move on to geript next or vice versa. Never explains why x or y are lock town such as palmar. idk if its to dumb to be scum or not is the bad thing. | ||
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Right now isn't the time to be stubborn. I have issues with jat which we can talk about tommorow if you can avert the lunch today. I am pretty sure your town. Look at cephs post and tell me if its mafia oriented or dumb town. | ||
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Now I think your town but you have to help me here | ||
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As it stands you can either roll over die and lylo happens with me ceph jat and palmar (on a weekend ffs) or you can play and help town win. | ||
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JAT Oalmar and Ritoky, is his last post town or mafia? Ignore geript and lets go from there for a bit | ||
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Firstly I think there's a chance he's right, but I think there's a chance palm could be scum to. I would much rather geript play today and five town the best chance idk why he doesn't understand that going out this way if you are scum is the opposite way. But I don't think today is the day to look at the hat/palmar. | ||
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Well he gave a somewhat opinion but meh | ||
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1) magical reads 2) lack of thread orescense 3) no endgame plan 4) tunnels 5) who he attacks 6) suicidal 7) tone That's basically what makes him town in short. Secondly his somewhat opinion is if you aren't acum than ceph is. | ||
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So any form of opinion be it what I wanted or another one is fine to me. Because I won't get anything else. | ||
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My reads and defense of geript are in the thread its what it is. And I don't feel like hiring a brick wall atm | ||
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On September 26 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote: Explain to me why geript said way back on day 1 that I was being serious and called me mafia for it when it was not true. Explain why geript blew up on cephiro (remember, not that much before that I had given him a "maybe not mafia" read mostly because he was being nice). Explain why geript is mad at jat for being wrong and bad when he also thinks jat is mafia in which case jat is being GOOD and not bad. Explain why geript claimed on.... day 3? that he was doing everything he could with his little time, when in reality he spent the previous 2 days talking about dicks. I'll listen damdred, but I'm not going to change my mind on a tonal "he sounds like town" thing. Firstly this isn't a tonal thing this is just an overarching game play thing with a mixture of meta thrown in. 1) Mistakes happen, I can't really explain it tbh geript has to answer this himself and I can't speak to how people feel about another. 2) Geeipt blows up as either alignment kinda a nai type thing and he blows up on whoever is in his path 3) idk just seems nai I understand not wanting to lose to it though. I just don't think it makes him scum. (this one about dicks) 4) This is worrying but it comes from town geript more than scum geeipt. Last newb game we played he did the same thing to Yamato and kels over misunderstanding and bad tunnels. | ||
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Why does rayn make a big deal that moosey says he never rolled scum? Things happen people make mistakes. | ||
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Idk I've seen him blow up and crap the thread up as both over little and big things. Its just kinda null for me. | ||
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Here's the thing geeipt, lets say you get lynched here no way ever jat gets lynched in lylo. If you don't get lynched palmar and I at least listen rationally. And can make a decent decision or look at others. what's the better option lynched jat has 0 chance of lynch or take out ceph and have people listen to cases in lylo. | ||
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1) I don't think you can call what I did d1 talking shit about jat? 2) Lesding up to a lynch I never as town or scum really push anyone up until hour 12 left or later that's when the real wagons take off. And that's what happens. 3) your interactions with Marv and his with you aren't as concrete as people make them out to be. 4) I've explained my geript read multiple times at this point so ceph isn't reading 5) I focus on whoever I want to when I'm most suspicious. Jat looked townier d3 when I came back then he did before oh well. I'll have to look at him in lylo which will be a headache. Overall I guess the post isn't bad but a lot of it if any doesn't make me mafia. He's calling me scum for reacting to the same situation differently over time. There's only so much cred on a wagon initially then fucking off leaves doubts its just how it works. I really don't care if I get lynched meh. | ||
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If you think I'm scum and ceph is town your thought process is, instead of scum damdred giving into rayn and his other scum buddies he went away from both town wagons to start a third town wagon for no reason what so ever. like I can see the posts ceph made coming from town its not difficult at all to see that tbh | ||
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Geeipt doesn't care if he lives when his death is basically guaranteed at this point He has no thread prescrbse which he loves to have as scum. He doesn't buddy up to anyone early to try to get free town tereads Magical reads on moosey Stubborn to a fault on who he thinks is scum takes path of greatest rwsistance No end game plan Theeres other things but yeah that's most of it | ||
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2) Usually geript makes mega associative reads based on who he thinks are scum. If he generally has a list of who he thinks are town he will just call everyone else town at that point. The warwafgle read is worrying, but I have a hard time either way thinking that scum geript would totally cut himself off of an easy lurker lynch by doing that. I think its a town move by geript taking a easy target out of a pie type list. Even if it was scary correct I think. 3) Geript is against fake claiming as town, he said to me once he was going to fake claim a red check on Yamato even though it was wrong of him to do so. D1 newb game geript de idea to tunnel kels for bad reason making a world of one rather than a world of three. He was a bit more balanced but it was in the same vein. 4) Either alignment can do this though, I think its a non point but I don't really have an answer to it. 5) Yeah but that's how he is when you play with him he will just say x is scim. Or x lied. I mean its rough especially when geript doesn't necessarily do it every game but he does it sometimes meh. This isn't a great explanation 6) I don't think this is scum indicative, palmar does the same thing some days. Idk | ||
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And busy lol | ||
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I don't mind his lynch, I did have a tow read so in that regard it sucks but it at least gets the thread back on track. JAT could you tell me about your read on wile,d1? | ||
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Now please explain your scum read of wile. The resulting switch to a town read what thoughts were town and why it made you eliminate him please. | ||
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I was jat top scum read, but I didn't feel like jatvwould auto vote me... If the plan is to have an easy lylo the right plan would of been to kill palmar since he town read me and everyone pile on hrmmm... That's just wifom. So scum reads looked like this before mafia kill damdred: Jat/ceph Ritoky: Damdred/ceph Jat: Damdred/ceph Palmar:ceph/jat tinfoil of damdred ceph: damdred Ritoky has to be town no matter what so it comes down between Palmar, Ceph and me to the thread. I just don't get it | ||
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Palmar has ceph or me to puck from Rit just has me I just have ceph and ceph just has me It really was a strange nk in terms of leaving someone to focus on(?) | ||
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1) While it could go either way and its not above either of them. Marv said something about palmar getting to many easy town reads at one point I believe. 2) Palmars initial pressure or going at Marg came at n1 when it did palmar has no reason as s um to really put the screws to Marv over some little things. 3) The day Marv is lynched there is somewhat decent push going to lynch me (Scott and rit vote me jat considers it) palmar walks in and goes um no lynch Marv. Jat helped here to but it might make a bit of sense for mafia palmar to take it to 1 mislynch instead of waiting another day for gweipt. That's a bit wifom. Srill reading a bit more. But I'm still leaning ish on palmar being town. Palmar you and Marv have played together since xxx though and it hasn't been quite like that? I thought you still kept to your initial way of doing things. | ||
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On September 15 2015 19:08 Palmar wrote: marv you need to have an opinion on the geript thing. I don't like the bystandery thing you do (like when I was tunneling jat last game). its posts like this that make me think palmar is town. | ||
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Initially I'm scared of palmar and I'm going to feel like crap if I'm wrong and he's scum. If he has he's played an excellent game. With very little mistakes 1) His reads have a really genuine air to them. His rayn read seems really good at the point (similar to mine). His other reads are likewise insightful and going towards a pro town mindset 2) His pushes on Marv reaction to Marv. Trying to get his opinion pushing on him to be involved. It could come from scum Marv but I don't think its good putting so much attention on Marv. 3) Especially the sideline post about Marv I like that post by palmar. 4) He feels like he's trying to figure out the game. overall I like palmar as town | ||
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Or at least in the do not lynch d1 and why didn't you consider it when Marv pushed it? | ||
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On September 23 2015 06:33 Palmar wrote: still, if mafia has no godfather that makes it more likely that whoever is mafia didn't read the op so geript is mafia. q.e.d. lol palmar obviously claiming scum in this post again. But seriously the postings around here make me feel like palmar is either being super towny by trying to eliminate into a pie by trying to remove me with the green check. And then feels dissapointed that he can't, or he's pocketing me super hard. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:57 Cephiro wrote: Onegu lynch is highly unlikely to happen at this point, you'd probably be better off deciding who you want to lynch between me/you/JAT/Moosy. Only 30 minutes left to vote after all. This post and a following one is so weird, it almost feels like coaching/reminding to do something. I don't know can you explain the few posts in your filter here when your talking to wile ceph and you don't really bring uo the questions you were asking him earlier? I don't really see any follow up on them | ||
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Cephs case on me isn't the worst case I have seen objectively. I think a lot of it is narrative and lacks a certain amount of,context while,disregarding at points other things I've said or done. Problem is I could see a town doing it just as much as a scum player. Probably gives me the most pause about just voting him because the push was decent. But I'm not totally convinced that he believed it. Like Lyn hung me at that point is a scums dream to a point, it a not like geript would look townier to jat/palm/rit. His posts after the lynch do seem crummy to me though, total over reaction to a not horrible lynch (got the game to not hyper Focus on geript). Idk just weird posts and I want cerph to explain what he was thinking at that point. | ||
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Rayn is an,obvious nk totally town read by everyone but geript. Koshi is halfway understandable, he's not confirmed as mason but he is universally town read and might be able to solve the game over confirmed Scott and rit. Scott is understandable here could of lied about his number of tracks and would of cleared a portion of the game for lylo. JAT kill is the most interesting as he was the most active at looking at others and would of tried to,figure out the game rather than being afk Idk how ceph nk is the problem but I know Palomar kills those who can solve the game. | ||
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But saying that I would leave rit in the game to with his inactivity. | ||
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For example some of,his town games posts are pretty big that's packed with opinions and what he thinks of everyone and what he wants to push. He barely argues why he's not mafia and just says it a a bad decision in the game I looked at. It's interesting and vastly different from what I see here which is little opinions. Over reactions etc. It makes me lean more scum on him. | ||
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Then read cell and compare the case or push on geript compared to his push here. It looks really similar to me at least | ||
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I've read lo try a and um waffling but I think ceph is the mafia I'm curious any thoughts you have. | ||
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You said earlier that you were trying to,give Marv space to figure him out etc. However jat is right your filter is pretty marvcentric in spots. So why focus on him so much if you are trying to give him space | ||
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1) Effor. Level in a land of dead thread damdred puts the work in and tries to foster talking with questions 2) During points in the game I was unable to control emotions and was quite combative as well with helping antagonize a lynch on myself 3) I didn't bus anyone who flipped scum so far, like what. I went from scum reading wile tontownreading him and never bussed Marv for cred. What kind of world is this we live in if I'm scum. Its obvious wifom since I know my meta but 2 I can't fake no matter how I try meh. | ||
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On September 28 2015 13:14 ritoky wrote: 1 is kinda bs cuz you and i have both done the thing where we flood the game with activity and effort in LYLO/MYLO and try to effort our way to the win. but i was seeing how much of your top 3 reasons matched with mine. interesting. idk even the game where I carried at the end with you and GB it took vivax and Yamato voting me to turn it around a bit and out the effort in | ||
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I've read palmars filter like 3 times, he is really clean is one way to pit it. And I put a few questions to him. He pushed Marv at a good time when he could of pushed me or let it go (which is nai). Few other things, bit there is some suspicion. | ||
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1) no mafia were up for lynch d1. 2) Palmar doesn't care who he kills hat is the biggest threat up for lynch. Damdred takes the heat for leading the lynch, jat deserved the lynch at that point. 3) Doesn't matter moosey is lynched anyway a light tr of palmar 4) next two days are basically become afk lynches 5) Geeipt was predetermined lynch sorta afk but an understandable lynch Ceph arguably has the best voting logic to be scum with how wagosn moved. Its a mess with voyes | ||
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That's a good one | ||
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2) Voting logic has very little to do with who you vote initially. 3) When we tlak about this generally we are talking about how wagons form break down, motivations behind this. 4) Tbh your push on Marv really doesn't match up to a bus, as the case/push comes when he's already being lynched but light oushes. You do push wile but jump off rather early to an extent. Just with how the wagon on you disintegrated and mafia moved to moosey is a reason to say just based off d1 voting you could be scum | ||
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Its towny of you to come in and push Wiley over moosey at that juncture. Geript and jat move there vote to you giving you 4 to mooseys 3 Rit votes moose making it 4-4 with jat having three. At this point you (ceroh) are going to be lynched due to being at 4 first. Marv unvotes Movement to Jat Marv moves to moosey. Moosey is lynched 5-4-3 or something close to that. it brings up the question why should Marv care as scum to move his vote in that situation if all three are town. No mafia up for lynch he's on his way home from work no reprucussions. But he decides to unvote soon as moosey gets tied (roughly) it just suggests that there is a mafia up for lunch. | ||
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And idk why that's so convulted to you that Marv would move off of scum partner to let a towng get lynched? Its pretty basic stuff. I'm not painting anything bad these are objective facts and what happened around lynch. Its curious as its the only day votes that matter so much. | ||
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The vote logic does point to you scum, yes it is true Marv does lightly oush you d2 when he is active dropping your name and mentioning you. But its far less often than it was during d1 and a few posts when someone brings you up first. But he dies say he would lynch you over me as well so that is a point in your favor as it looks like setting up two mislynches to a point as well. | ||
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Ceph abandoned his push on me to push harder target palmar what do you think of that | ||
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Do you think his reaction to me talking about voting logic is scummy?(what's your opinion there) At points it seems he's generally frustrated at ne but treats me like I'm town acting dumb rather than a potential scum read trying to pile up on him. That's interesting | ||
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idk its a weird feeling between the two I hate being wrong in lylo | ||
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u got a few things to read it looks like here meh | ||
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I don't get why palmar being wrong makes him scum? D1 lots of people if not all were wrong we had auto lynches 2-3 and it was either me or geript eod 4. One of those he hard town read so its not hard to see why he went the way he did... | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:07 ritoky wrote: If I go read this, I need you to beat it into me that you're town while I am doing it. Cuz unlike you guys who only have 2 options, I don't know any of your alignments. Make me never want to lynch you ever. Go. If you can't tell I'm town at this point there is literally no hope for you and I have lost hope for you. If you think I'm going to try to pie the whole game d1 and literally leave myself 0 room to maneuver (refusal to switch to onegu or moosey). Try to instigate a lynch on me by refusing to do wor d3. Instead of just fucking off at mylo I pressure both people I'm curious about. I lead a lynch on town jat and butt heads with rayn all the way to eod over who to lynch. Totally tilting at points if you think that's my scum game...idk what to say | ||
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So that's probably not a good point now that I think about it | ||
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On September 28 2015 14:11 Cephiro wrote: Like I understand how you're seeing the situation, but you're not thinking of it objectively nor as a whole at all. You're completely focusing on the fact that marv happened to return to the thread late, as far as I recall he unvoted as one of the first things as he returned, and it happened to be on me because he had tried to push / pressure me lightly earlier for my absence. Which he incidentally, keeps up for the whole game. Fucking mvp scumduo, having a contest who gets the other killed? Especially continuing to do so after Wile is dead? I'm really starting to get frustrated with your line of thought here, sorry. at this point in game did you think I was scum? | ||
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I think cephs reaction to it has kinda been bad, I think at one point he threatened me last night and thinking it was 80/20 me to palmar but talks to me like I'm town and just acts frustrated with my line of thinking, if someone I think is scum tried to do that I react a bit differently. I think. | ||
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just relies on us thinking palmar should be more right than wrong idk. | ||
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