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On September 16 2015 01:26 Damdred wrote: Well, mooseys list isn't horrible there's a couple of nai points in it that don't mean much but there is some good stuff.
Besides that morning I'm basically caught up, you spammy bastards.
^^ Anything else to add then?
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On September 16 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure if I want to push Willie today or not at this point moosey. I think he's decently scummy and you've summed up some of the problems I have with him nicely. Bit I have to think on that a bit more.
Gwript still somewhat troubles me some of the things he's come back with feel more towny than scummy today. I'm still leaning town on him.
I know the interactions between jat and rayn were interesting to me though. Its a bit hard to explain but part of it is that jat felt a bit toned down and trying to get along during the discourse instead of his generally fillterless self. This is going to be impossible for me to push probably but maybe someone will listen to me.
Besides that the post about jat finding wil scummy and instead of giving more thoughts on scummy thing aettles on talking about geript without a conclusion is interesting I suppose.
On September 16 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am backing down from my town read on Cephiro. I have to check somethign regarding that, i might do that today, might not if i am as sleepy as i am rn after whisky. I'm willing to switch between Cephiro and Coyote although I do think that Coyote is worse off.
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On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did 1) things happen 2) geript calls palmar mafia 3) more things happen 4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously" 5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3). 6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense: - geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for - i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out prior.
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On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did 1) things happen 2) geript calls palmar mafia 3) more things happen 4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously" 5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3). 6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense: - geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for - i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post at that point in time when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out by people prior.
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On September 16 2015 02:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did 1) things happen 2) geript calls palmar mafia 3) more things happen 4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously" 5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3). 6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense: - geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for - i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out prior. Show me the posts. -shrugs- you can go search for them yourself but I'll look for your lazy bum. in a mo
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Trying to claim he’s doing work:
On September 15 2015 07:52 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:45 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote: so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test hmm. I only remember you wanting to shoot our stuff together. I was weirded out. I asked for info as an outsider everyone basically ignored me and rambled on shit . Whoever jumps and gives me that info is more often town Like, what was he expecting from us?
Trying to bring me up next and in that big post of his:
On September 15 2015 11:32 Wile E. Coyote wrote: And moosydoosy claiming vt is something I have seen quite a few first time mafias do. They think they can get away with it because there new or something
Then he jumps on rayn’s post when the point had already been mentioned by several people:
On September 15 2015 11:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 07:08 geript wrote:On September 15 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 07:01 geript wrote: I think i want to lynch damdred and palmer. Make it so people. elaborate please. Since I'll be busy tomorrow and wednesday with an Interview I should get and ACLS, I might as well explain now. PalmAr becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously which is a first in a million games (fyi those games he was town). Damdred because bad reads. On September 15 2015 11:16 geript wrote:On September 15 2015 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: On what exactly? Opening post. Like he hasn't opened like that recently no no no. ##vote geript this is a good find. I just read palmers filter when I did my read list and I dont see how ANYONE can interpret his posts as playing super serious. His posts were 80% trolling and filler. So I wanna hear geript go into detail on his palmer read
Some more stuff that Damdred pointed out:
On September 15 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Whats odd about me pointing out geript saying scummy/anti village things. Stick to meta reads fello This is a classic example of you trying to discredit someone. You don't tackle the argument at all but attack the person instead. And geript you are being an idiot, the game in question you kept trying to interact and wait on me to give reads and it never came really. Here in rife with things to talk about but you fail to talk at all. I just don't get it, on one hand I can see town geript being stupid like palmar. But I don't see town geript not caring enough to do anything else. Bah.
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idk how to read JAT so just point out things to me and I'll say whether you guys have my green lights or red lights.
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On September 16 2015 02:35 Koshi wrote: waffle is not a good bet at all. Well, in that case we'll just waffle on his alignment. ha ha
haha
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get it?
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On September 16 2015 02:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did 1) things happen 2) geript calls palmar mafia 3) more things happen 4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously" 5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3). 6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense: - geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for - i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post at that point in time when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out by people prior. oops I made a mistake here. It was people questioning him about his trap, not especially marv. But I thought that marv's pressure on Coyote was nice as well and Coyote really didn't explain himself as the Damdred quote from my previous posts shows.
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On September 16 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I meantt moosy. I think you are pretty obviously town since forever. mmm...might wanna re-consider that statement on me raynie.
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Damdred, can you point out why exactly JAT is scum. I feel like all that's been thrown at him is meta. Was there anything substantial that I can look into?
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On September 16 2015 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Thanks. I suggest you look at cephiro's pists that game and then lets talk about him. I am home in 30. -shrugs-
Early inconsistency where he asks for banter then blames people for taking him seriously. His overreaction to people thinking he was overreacting was cute. He says he doesn't want to share his reads yet but I think he should have a few people he wants to start looking into by now and he should share them. Also that part about semantics and "100%". -_- I guess that bit is NAI but still pointless.
His filter is full of wordy questions and worrying over semantics so I want him to share some reads and get straight to the point now.
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On September 16 2015 03:08 geript wrote: Wish me luck. Interview at-20 o0ooo have fun and good luck m9
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On September 16 2015 04:20 ritoky wrote: oh wow...that looks like a lot of pages of circle jerk since i have been gone. should i go back and read it? Yes because it's the town circle and you need to put us back on track if you think we're wrong.
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On September 16 2015 04:47 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: - Claiming a trap is an easy way to open up and pretend you're doing work. He also seems eager to point out it was a test almost as if people should know that he was trying to do work. I also don't know what he was expecting because he could clearly see we were going to just answer sarcastically because we were all just bantering. - huE thinks I'm scum because of A. VT claim B. filler - Sheeps your post immediately on geript when it was already brought up earlier. - Doesn't answer marv's questioning and instead claims he knows what he's doing and says marv is being overblown - His 3rd page of filter has almost no relevance when you look at thread context. He was just talking about things that no one else was talking about. - Biggest part is tone. Damdred will probably read this as well, but if you look at context he seems opportunistic and willing to jump at things as well as a bit desperate in trying to appear townie. talking about different things is how I and everyone should find mafia. We talked about the same stupid shit last night look where that got us. See your calling me mafia for bringing up uniqe points instead of bringing up the same raggy shit thats already been talked about into the ground like alot of people have. I tried to answe marvs qeustions I believe I did I thought you were a value lynch I never said I even thought you were super likely to flip mafia just above the average odds is what I said. I said you were my fall back lynch at the time but things have changed your acualy playing now. Altho jumping on me here probably does make you mafia when you seemed to ignore me and have off topic discussion with me day 1. Cool. In that case, there was no need to leap on a point that's been made repeatedly right? Also, I was thinking you were null due to tone and then that opportunistic comment of yours just caught my eye.
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On September 16 2015 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am never getting behind Wile lynch on this day. Why not? Who are you looking into now too?
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The last time I saw JAT act like this was in a game where he was townie. rayn, marv, and Palmar were in it as well. I'd like to know exactly what they think of JAT currently. :/
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I'm back. It was the game with my confusion over Palmarv and JAT. I'm actually not sure if rayn was in it. I think Wave and rsoul was in it? Lemme go check.
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raynerino, you still need to tell me exactly what about Coyote gives you pause from lynching him.
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