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On September 16 2015 08:06 Onegu wrote:
Still think Koshi is town, but find it really weird that he dropped his scum reads on me and ceph for like no reason.
Also I couldn't care less, Sounds much better than I could care less.
#FuckGrammer.
probably because I couldn't care less is the correct usage, dopeydrawers
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On September 16 2015 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I haven't even read rayn's case on moosy.
Also I can't even remember cephiro posting after a strong start so he is getting a downgrade.
This is correct.
So there was some normal game ages ago now where I superhardpushed (remember those days?) Cephiro on d2 because i was convinced he was mafia (he was)
then i thought he was mafia in a game soon after and pushed him again, except this time he wasn't. In that game he posted more kinda self-centred wall of texts like he has here, which led me to my early townread on him in this case
but if he's not playing, maybe he just decided that was his effort for the day.
dno though, will think about it a bit later
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On September 16 2015 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The last time I saw JAT act like this was in a game where he was townie. rayn, marv, and Palmar were in it as well. I'd like to know exactly what they think of JAT currently. :/ You never ever ever ever ever make this post as town. You just do not do it. No. no. no. NO!
people make this sort of misremembering mistake ALL THE TIME, and moreover, more as town.
i hope there's more?
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like i literally remember Palmar making a really clever point DEFENDING moosy last game we played together because moosy kept misremembering names...
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On August 27 2015 07:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.
I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes). oh i like this thought
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it was clever enough that i
a) commented that it was
b) used it as a later rationale to defend you
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On September 16 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch Onegu.
i want to lynch onegu a lot less than i want to lynch waffle (just reading his list post right now)
splain?
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On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:Sorry about the lack of posts but your massive circle jerk (that I wasn't invited to btw) made me want to sit back and wait for some substance before making any reads. The fact that I've only played with geript and Damdred before have also contributed to this. I looked at all the filters individually since I don't know the meta of any players here (besides a vague outline I've drawn through observation of this game). This is my current standing on each of you: MoosyDoosy: Very poor posting quality. Many one liners that distract or lead into other topics. Nothing of substance or insight to be gleaned from his whole filter. Probable mafia. Damdred: Damdred is Damdred. Pretty sure he's town, filter doesn't have anything against him. A couple of people have targeted him based off meta reads, though. geript: In Student Mafia V he singlehandedly got me lynched. No hard feelings. He was town in that game (and he even had an excuse to post infrequently too); his actions in this game have in no way, shape, or form followed this supposed typical gerpit behaviour. Highly suspicious. justanothertownie: Has a bunch of posts but most of it is filler. Dragged the "did I/did I not townread geript" conversation string on for longer than it should have. This post Show nested quote +I have done stuff. Not much but I have. And I am not saying you should absolutely townread me. I am saying there is 0 reason to mafia read me. feels like he's saying "I may not be town, but I'm definitely not mafia." Koshi: Spams a lot but apparently it is always this way with him. Is aggressively (and confidently) pushing justanothertownie for mafia. Pretty sure he's town. raynpelikoneet: Pretty up front with his willingness to vote for pressure. Is heavily leaning towards MoosyDoosy and justanothertownie. Strangely hard townread MoosyDoosy up until the point where he was afk for a while then switched his vote to Moosy, promised to not move it, and was so sure of it that he said "If MoosyDoosy flips town in this game i am mafia and you should lynch me, that's how sure i am." This feels like a bus to me. If all other suspicious leads go awry, rayn should be looked at. Currently reading town, however. Wile E. Coyote: Weak posts. Nothing seems to jump out whatsoever. Feels like somebody trying to slide by under the radar. Null/suspicious. Cephiro: Well constructed posts... if he's ever around. Raised suspicion on Damdred, told Moosy to stop talking about Crime and Punishment, and then disappeared. Odd. He mentioned returning midway through the cycle but has yet to make a reappearance. Null. Onegu: Possesses a strange knack for seeming like he's around when he's not. Really nothing to go by in his filter. Null/suspicious. ritoky: Calls out the suspicious people for acting suspicious. Appears to have reasonable reads. Town most likely.
Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead. marvellosity: idk. Could be either alignment. He is a good player; that puts a target on his head regardless.
hey waffle, you gonna come play with us?
There's some weird things in this post.
Can you explain a bit more your geript kinda meta-read? (this bit not weird, just want some elaboration)
the jat part literally has zero conclusion whatsoever. not sure if this has significance, but it's there.
Very odd bit in the rayn read where he says "this feels like a bus" -> "i'm reading rayn town". This doesn't make sense. It's semantics, but there's a kinda disconnect there
Palmar townread based on Palmar saying he is town?
for me the Cephiro alignment conclusion didn't quite seem to match the previous words on him.
dunno, lots of lil things.
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i'm not sure you can equivocate the 2, tbh.
one he was hard-defending a scumbuddy based on previous soul reads
here he's just giving out townreads. even if he's mafia it's hard to pick out an agenda there, unlike in XXX
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the towniest thing about waffle is his first post where he interjects a random comment and is happy just to sit and leave it there and not post again for ages.
which does create some waffle.
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On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.
And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life
lol
can't tell if townie or scummy
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On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.
i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest.
the thing is, see the post that me/palmar quoted from last game.
moosy was very inaccurate with details there.
i just don't even BEGIN to grasp what rayn is pushing here :/
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yeah it was Noir. Not 100% sure if hogwarts was the game i was thinking about after (although i know we were both in it and i may have called him mafia, feels like there may have been another, maybe not though)
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i just don't think i'm going to lynch moosy here.
the really weird "not rolled mafia before" thing seems NAI judging by both Moosy/rayn's reactions to it. he's super all over the place. maybe he can play like this as mafia, but do i have any reason to think so right now? 100% do not get this misremembering rayn in another game thing.
In reality mafia do not make these errors more than town, in fact probably less.
Cephiro has no new content. It's easy to talk in general terms at the start of the game, less so when real shit actually starts happening.
Waffle just isn't here, weird things in his list post, stood up really bad to ritoky's questioning i thought.
some more active/well-known-ish mafia that i don't really know if i want to try to pursue today. jat can be mafia but he kinda seems a little less pissy than i imagine him to be as mafia (and yes you're probs all reading this going "well he IS being pissy" - nonetheless, i think that  )
maybe geript, his non-townread on rayn is wonky, his Damdred stuff was wonky, i know he's busy but i guess i'd expect a little more urgency? and when he actually answered me he sounded fine.
##Vote: Cephiro
kinda giving warwaffle tiny benefit of the doubt for his very first post + the fact he just gets mislynched d1 all the time. good reasons.
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totally forgot Wile. Would probably also lynch because i think most others look townier.
i think rayn's defence of him is based on associations that he shouldn't be making (esp moosy).
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he has a lot of tonal posts that point towards town. but i'm missing some of the clever stuff (well, the stuff that you didn't think made him town last game but i did). but he feels very unforced which is good.
i'd say i'd be fairly surprised if he was scum in this situation, but it's not out of the question.
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On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.
yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage
i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole
if you do, please go ahead :>
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On September 16 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too. yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole if you do, please go ahead :> The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me.
this has been my damdred strat for some games now. you approving or not doesn't matter very much to me bbz.
see his pre-game comment even
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On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool.
then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't
or maybe you can't
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