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On September 23 2015 03:52 ritoky wrote:
i also am not particularly fond of cephiro poo pooing the activity argument constantly. sorry but you're not actively trying to lead town anywhere since day 1. so yes activity based scum reads are valid on you. if you don't like it then change your activity level and shove the thread in a direction. you're kinda lucky i had such a town read on you going into this phase because you've been wildly underwhelming.
Right, because everyone can be a town leader, right? Let's all measure our penises during the night cycle so the ones that live on D4 can follow their leader with the mightiest organ instead of everyone trying to be a town leader.
How much I post is completely irrelevant regarding if I'm scum or not. I can be the most active player in the thread as both scum and town. I can be the least active player in the thread both as scum and town.
As I said before, if you scumread me, do it for valid reasons instead of the bullshit some of you are making up.
Or am I scum because I didn't come flaunt my massive anaconda that has my feelings written all over it to your face during D2 when we had better things to do, like finish lynching the self-claimed scum?
Not going to argue this point further, I believe I've made myself clear enough.
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On September 23 2015 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Like, if you read filters these are the reasons to read people town.
JAT: Though thread prescense was insanely down d1 and he lacked his normal flair and push his n1 push on confirmed scum wile was insanely good. His continued effort through d2 and into d3 and his early push and continued push on Marv is great for him. THERE IS A SLIGHT TINFOIL that he bussed both but the pushes came at a horrible time for a bus and I highly doubt it at this juncture. Probably town.
Hahaha, just what? What is this bullshit you're saying? Jat pushed wile in what universe? Look at the votecount thread. JAT did not even vote for wile a single time. Guess who where the only two votes on Wile on D1? Me and moosy, yeah. But somehow you keep saying a lot of people (but not me??) have pushed the wile lynch so hard on D1. That's just fucking hilarious.
On September 17 2015 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:
I started reading Wiles filter fully expecting to convince myself that he is the best lynch today but I just can't seem to. I still disagree strongly with a lot of the stuff he said but I am not sure it actually makes him mafia. I can see some sort of train of thought reading his filter.
This is annoying.
On September 17 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I might prefer lynching damdred over all the people in the poe list I posted earlier.
On September 17 2015 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I could also lynch Cephiro. There was this one post that seemed kinda honest to me early on but 90 % of his posts are about himself and once people started townreading him he just disappeared and only returned when he was being pushed again to complain about people pushing him. It doesn't seem like he is interested in finding or lynching mafia.
On September 17 2015 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, so damdred is very wishy washy and inconclusive throughout his filter. Until his recent posts he just fell off completely and it doesn't really seem like he cares about getting his scumreads lynched or figuring them out.
Like he called me mafia all game for no reason, but did he ever question me? Did he ask me things or did he in any way try to figure me out? Nope.
Did he do it for Waffle who he is also calling mafia? Nope.
Then there is the fact that neither ritoky nor geript are townreading him which is very interesting. I think he is a decent lynch.
On September 17 2015 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so I think I want to lynch between Cephiro and Damdred. Any recommendations? I have to leave in a few minutes :/
On September 17 2015 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Why on earth did you lynch moosy? Wtf happened to the Cephiro wagon? Why the fuck did rayn lynch moosy after saying mafia is most likely between damdred, cephiro and me? Good job, you made a town/town lynch happen. Don't even consider for a nanosecond that the people on my wagon are more towny than the people on moosy.
If there is a vigilante shoot me.
Did I make my point clear enough? I think you should read before you spout out nonsense.
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EBWOP: Apparently I can't read, I'll have to re-check N1 instead of D1 to see if I agree with you or not.
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On September 18 2015 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
And to the Wile thing:
Moosy was Wiles top mafiaread almost all game right? The thing we are talking about is the main reason why people scumread Moosy before rayn went full retard. And it wasn't a throwaway comment someone made at some point. It was actually said by multiple people and was a big point of discussion. So you are telling me Wile does not know why his top mafiaread is being scumread.
The conclusion is that he is either totally disinterested in his top mafiaread or that he is acting. Both heavily point towards him being mafia.
^ I'll agree that this was a good post/case, but as a whole, I don't see how it's "insanely good", when it wasn't even the main reason we lynched Wile. Especially when you take into account he didn't give a fuck about getting Wile lynched D1.
For the activity part: If you're going to read me as scum because I'm not interested in comparing my dick with yours, then go ahead and do so. And look at me when I don't give a fuck. I prefer having less posts with more substance, instead of joining the who has the biggest dick competition and arguing "no you" back and forth for pages and pages. If that's what you people think makes someone town, then I sure as hell wish I wasn't town now right now.
Don't see any of you asking me anything productive, so I'm out until closer to lynch time.
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On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
And all you do is try to deflect and blame the rest of the town or give many big opinions or show why your top scum read is your top read.
Pushed and voted Wile D1 until I swapped at the end because people weren't getting on him.
Been telling you marv is scum since game started.
GET FUCKED.
Think I'm just gonna idle the night with my no substance.
On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
I just don't get it, your posts haven't had substance at all.
NOPE. BYE.
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On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.
Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)
Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.
What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.
Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.
On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.
Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.
A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.
Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.
I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.
Not that he should live through the night anyway.
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Only from your perspective, you're not confirmed to anyone but yourself.
I'd like to remind you I was the only player along with Moosy (who died D1) to even vote for Wile N1, but no-one else seemed to agree it's an option viable enough.
Day 2 is obviously not relevant, everyone will always vote for the claimed scum in that scenario.
Day 3 ended up not mattering, I would have expected marv to play it out since I feel he would've had a decent chance of avoiding a lynch if he put his all into it (maybe time issues irl? Iuno.)
In any case, you and me have both been going for marv since very early on in the game, and you picked on pushing Wile not too long after me either. Like honestly, I do know it's well within both of our reach to do a double-bus if the situation warranted for it, but going hard on both scumbuddies since the start? Especially continuing this hard on marv after the D2 wile flip? Not to mention that koshi kill I would never have done as scum (you say you would've). Like honestly the only reason I don't consider you as confirmed town is because you taking advantage of your presence and rolling with it + the extra cred is an extremely small possibility (yet a viable one), and the fact that I haven't seen your role pm while I've seen mine.
For all I care aside ritoky (conf town), you should stick around till LYLO if we don't end it before then. You're not going to do a slip if you're mafia anyway, and the possibility that you're mafia is much, much smaller than that you're town.
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On September 23 2015 07:36 ritoky wrote:
You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?
I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word.
I'll also make it clear.
You're not the reason I'm alive. You're not a guardian of mine, I don't give a shit about anything you demand. If you want to co-operate, sure, I'm up for that. If you're going to be a dick and try to pretend being my savior, no. I don't care. Then I'll just ignore you and post what I want when I want.
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On September 23 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I don't think you are obvious town at this juncture, a track on you would clear up certain things and shrink,the lynch pool however and me you geript are the thread biggest contentions.
And night is the best tile to scum,hunt ..
You and geript are the best tracks if Scott is real. Me I'm a horrid track and I'm probably getting lynched anywsy
Give me a short explanation of why Palmar is not a valid track target, if you truly, honestly, somehow think I'm a good track target (and you aren't?).
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On September 23 2015 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
EZPZ question - Who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
Irrelevant until I have information of what happens during the night.
On September 23 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
And night is the best tile to scum,hunt ..
Any information available during the night is there just as much for scum as it is for town. It's a good time to re-evaluate and analyze your own reads on different people, but there's not much of a reason to share it with town unless you come up with something significant that would likely affect the way a power role would act that night.
Otherwise it's best to keep things to yourself and post anything of relevance before the deadline. That combined with whatever the results of the night cycle are gives a good start for the following day to continue upon.
What happens during the day is much more relevant for scumhunting than what someone says during the night in most cases.
Feel free to disagree, but this is how I see it.
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On September 23 2015 07:46 ritoky wrote:
What is there to co-operate with, you've been stand-offish and dismissive toward everyone; the moment someone considers you might be mafia you make 0 effort to understand or argue against it and call them and their reasons shit. Your posts don't have clear direction of where you want to go this game and the justifications tend to be lacking at best. I have spent the majority of the time you've been in the thread attempting to get you to participate in a meaningful way that will allow other players to get a proper read on you and you've just been having none of it. You've wanted to stall for ungodly amounts of time for no justified reason. You've actively refused to give reads or state a definitive target. You've treated pretty much everyone who interacts with you with venom. And quite frankly if you're town been an atrocious teammate. And yes if you didn't have confirmed town shielding you for so long you would be in a lot of trouble.
Feel free to ignore my posts, they probably won't be here for but 23 more hours; but don't think your play justifies your holier than thou attitude; regardless of your alignment.
I would be much more eager to co-operate if:
1) You wouldn't call me out for being "indecisive" or "unconclusive", when I clearly point out that if you really want me to share something I am not sure of myself, it's obviously not going to be very helpful in most cases.
I can see how the extra information can be valuable at times, but if all you're going to do is call me out for it, then just what the fuck are you doing? If you ask for indecisive information, that's what you fucking get. Even more so, if that's going to be your basis to make a case for me being scum.
(Me telling I'm not sure on X, you wanting me to share that I'm not sure on X in detail, then calling me scum because I opened upon something I wasn't sure of?) <-- This is absolutely fucking retarded play if you're town.
And then there's the oh god, so amazing, NAI activity argument.
Do note that with "you" I mean this on a general level, rather than you personally.
I've stated a definitive target multiple times, even if I haven't opened up on the reasoning right away. I wanted to share my read on marv D1, until rayn persuaded me not to. Which was in my opinion very reasonable, it was a lynch that was not going to happen D1. (Why should I spam up the thread with something no-one will even care about?) With me being one of the main wagons of D1, I was confident I wouldn't be able to affect a possible power role's actions by sharing my read during that night (nor should I be concerned about doing so, blues can use their own brain). During D2, the tracker claim on Wile came out early on. Why the fuck should I waste time talking about marv, in the worst case making him even more aware / careful / cause him to play differently?
N2 as per my logic, there was no reason for me to be posting about my reads at that time. I wasn't going to die anyway. And D3 I did when I had the time to do so, it just happened to be later on in the cycle. Well boo fucking hoo, sue me.
In short: Don't ask me to co-operate with you, if all you're going to is call my content shit, when you're forcing me to give you shit content. If you'd read more of my filter D1, you'd see I was much more co-operative in my attitude. Don't complain about me being "venom", when you've caused it yourself. Maybe I would have a bit more pressure on me if people if some people hadn't pointed out towny things in my filter. So what? I'm town, it's not anyone elses job to defend me. I can do that fine enough myself if it comes that far. Did I get lynched D1? No, I did not. Did I get lynched D3? No, I did not. Am I going to get lynched D4? No, I am not. I'm not going to get myself get mislynched as town.
Don't expect me to contribute much if at all during N3. I might still reply to something as I'm around for now, but once I leave that's probably it.
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Around, gonna re-read, post my opinions on all the relevant players (Jat, geript, Palmar, Damdred).
If I don't faint from bashing my head against the wall too much, because reading this shit makes me regret signing up for this game. Mostly due to these two reasons:
1) I do not understand how the fuck someone thinks it's possible for me to be part of a Wile+marv scumteam as the third person with how I've played. I've pointed out why and quoted my own case explaining why that doesn't happen even if hell froze over, so it's really making me wonder how thick Damdred is or if he has to go for me because he's scum and thinks he won't get anyone else lynched.
2) Fucking. Activity. Bullshit. Can you fucking stop repeating the same retarded shit over and over again? I've come around to post whenever it has been relevant and had time to do so. You people are out of your fucking minds if you think the best way to play mafia is to argue with everyone for the sake of arguing and getting filter for the first 10 pages, then talk about how fucking huge your penis is for the next 10. Just because I'm not around the moment you want me to be doesn't mean I don't care about the game. So go shove a clock up your asses and listen to it tick if you don't have anything better to do.
Related to the time thing, I will be traveling most of tomorrow and will only be partially available later on closer to the lynch deadline. (Unless internet abandons me at my destination for w/e reason).
So after I'm done re-reading and posting my stuff, feel free to ask questions if you're around, because after that you'll have to wait till near lynchtime.
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Finally finished reading (had to take a small break half way through JAT's filter), but I'd say it was worth it. Extremely unlikely I'll be changing my mind on anything from this point on.
My reads:
Ceph - Towniest Town
ritoky - "Confirmed" Town ("'s because he hasn't flipped yet, but obv town..)
Palmar - As close to conf town as you can get
Jat - Very likely town
geript - Slight chance of being scum
Damdred - Extremely likely scum
From my perspective this is done, as I'm confident enough that town Palmar/JAT are not going to mislynch into me, so we roll with a Damdred lynch today and if he somehow flips town (not happening though), then we lynch geript and win anyway.
I'll post a proper case on why Dam is the last remaining scum once I've done my traveling (Expect a case to be posted around 4-6 hours left in deadline), as I'm about to miss my bus if I don't finish packing and leave now (long trip too.)
But in short the main reasons are:
1) Interaction with confirmed scum (Dam/Wile + Dam/marv) [Traces of this in my marv case]
2) Read progression on the currently unconfirmed players alive (Mostly on me, jat, to a small extent geript also)
3) Plays exactly the only way a scumdred would have any chance of winning the game with (can't waffle more on JAT, see read progression, has to 1v1 Ceph and get geript lynched because he will never get palmar lynched)
3b) See what is happening right now, been discrediting and casting shade on me for a fair bit now (And guess when that started? Yeah, when things started to go downhill for mafia and every plausible scenario involves a mislynch into me. Too bad for you that I've been intentionally downplaying to the extent of still being around but being a "valid" mislynch target for this very reason.) See how he's not really opposing a geript lynch (even though he talks about how he townreads him? he's more like "Oh I guess it can't be helped if you all think geript is mafia", instead of pushing for his scumread..) because it fits his agenda. What he should be doing at the moment if he was town was nothing but convince everyone to get his top scumread lynched (me).
But instead you have this:
On September 25 2015 06:11 Damdred wrote:
Well I agree that I'm,not trying to lynch my scum atm but trying to not lynch a tr to a point meh.
##vote: Damdred
I'll elaborate on further reasoning once I'm available again as per post, but don't expect anything from me until then, as it simply can't be helped even if I wanted to participate more. With that, I'm off. See you all closer to lynch deadline.
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Took a bit longer than expected, around now and writing up on Damdred.
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Wile: Considers him a lynch target while considering jat scummy, prefers to concentrate on talking shit about jat instead of pushing Wile?
-> Until jat joins his list of lynch targets
-> Doesn't push for Wile while considering him a lynch target, until he takes the "super town play" thing and instantly flips his read all the way around
(supported by sheeping rayn's opinion that Wile is "never going to be mafia"). Also promotes this "find" to others, INCLUDING marv who joins the thread,
who then took it at face value (Because it fit marv's agenda).
Jat: Talks about how much irrelevant stuff he does early on without opening up on it for the first 2/3rds of the day, after which he actually starts to give reasons
and keeps pushing on him for lynch. Dam's favourite argument "Most of the things jat is pulling against me is pretty nai" is repeated a fair few times.
When Wile is busted:
On September 18 2015 11:51 Damdred wrote:
Jat kinda pushing off wile near end of day is interesting yesterday slightly when he went into his filter and said I expected scummy and couldn't find it. Plus his early soft scumming him but never pushing him.
.. yeah, let's make the best out of it.
On September 23 2015 02:01 Damdred wrote:
You are acting as a revisionist at this point jat.
1) You totally backed off your wile scum read d1, you didn't push wile with any force until n1. Before that it was barely soft pushing
2) I never ridiculed you for scum reading Marv.
Honestly jat you can go fuck yourself and that horribly sized ego. My play before I got busy was decent nit good, if your town I did make that bad read but otherwise my reads weren't horribly wrong
He still has good reasoning to be suspicious of jat, but he has to drop it because he's changed to be pushing the ceph/marv scumteam.
geript: Initial scumread, but then goes to become a strong townread on a purely "feel" basis (is never able to properly reason why), associative almost conftown read based on Wile being scum, runs with this all the way to endgame
Ceph: Initial townread -> null when inactive -> townread again after eod1. After wile bust, considers remaining mafia to be in jat+marv+Palmar
On September 18 2015 13:42 Damdred wrote:
do you think mafia cep instead of just hammering moose pushes scum mate wile near eod or hops on town jat?
Though to be fair its considerable that jat/moose both town Marv and ce are scum and both don't care and wile wasn't getting momentum at the end.
Read the first sentence. It's minor, but he never even considers a ceph scum / jat scum possibility. (At a point with 1 unlynched self-claimed mafia and 2 unknown mafia)
He does fix and take this into account in this next post, though.
On September 18 2015 15:04 Damdred wrote:
Oart of me wants to take easy road and say, jat for weird interactions saying he has scummy feelings on wile never pushing instead arguing about other things. And that would make palmar probably town to an extent as a his there is weird but not out of palmars scope.
Which would probably make Marv his partner as cep would of been on two mafia wile then jat.
If jat is town means its more likely palmar+ ceph. The votes d1 don't mean much.
Marv+ce is also possible because of how quick Marv was able to get off ce and just sheep rayn to an extent.
Keynote: Dam completely skips mentioning the fact that he also played a part in where marv ended up in the D1 vote. Do note the downplay on D1 votes at this point, where earlier he considered them a significant factor in why he read me as town.
Also this: He thinks I could not be mafia with jat, because I would've been bussing both my partners. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT MATTERS TO YOU ANYMORE NOW DOES IT? (Confirmed scum marv+wile, I've been on both ahead of time.)
On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team.
^ overemphasizing the same point many times over. Do remember that he talked earlier how about I couldn't be scum if i was bussing 2 partners. Why is it an option now then? Because it fits the agenda.
He keeps pointing how marv leaving the Ceph wagon makes us a possible scumpair whilst ignoring every other interaction between Ceph/marv all game not to mention the other things that influenced marv's decision @ eod
On September 23 2015 02:11 Damdred wrote:
And I am playing in pretty well documented that I think ceph is the last mafia at this point with Marv.
It is pretty apparent with how quickly Marv jumped off cephbfor non reasons and hammered someone who he didn't want to lynch earlier. Though this could point to your being mafia as well I think its more likely its ceph in that situation.
We gave him a decent amount of credit for trying to push another lynch in scum mate wile but it is a bit wifom since he gave up the push on wile so quickly especially when two other wagons were fighting and it was possible to go on someone else. And he was really concerned about saving his own neck staring he would vote moosey to save himself.
^ Now I'm scum for the same reasons he considered me to be town for before. Not to mention that he paints it completely in a different light. Honestly, how the hell does a legit townie go from: "Why would he ever do this as scum, risking his own life?" -> "It was never even close for him so ofc he stayed on mafia for credit" ... Because it fits the agenda, that's why.
There's absolutely no other reason to change your read that drastically, and do a complete 180 going from defending someone with that point to pushing them as scum for the same point.
On September 23 2015 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Like, if you read filters these are the reasons to read people town.
JAT: THERE IS A SLIGHT TINFOIL that he bussed both but the pushes came at a horrible time for a bus and I highly doubt it at this juncture. Probably town.
Palmar has called out Marv pretty successfully the entirity of the game.
(I've cut off parts of this quote, leaving the relevant part for what I'm about to say.) Do note how these two things make other players more town, but somehow it does not make me town at all?
Just look at how Damdred is playing right now. Everything he does screams "As long as I survive till tomorrow, things are fine" instead of "We need to lynch scum today".
He's not even going through possible scenarios of the last day because they're irrelevant to him, he'll just go with any lynch he's able to get if he's able to win the 1v1 on me today.
It's already been pointed out how he's been playing toward the only real way he could win as scum, can you people please just notice this, vote for Dam and win the game so we can all enjoy our weekends?
Like just look at the amount of geript asskissing he's been doing. He's trying to ensure geript survives till MYLO because he's the best buddy he has this game, ensuring him the best chance of surviving in MYLO.
HE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH LYNCHING SCUM, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT VOTING FOR THE PERSON WHO IS NOT TRYING TO LYNCH SCUM?!?
If you look at his latest pages of filter, every single thing I post about he tries to undermine / discredit, even when he admits some of my points / play has been good.
He is not committing because he knows he will get called out for it, so he's trying to waffle his way about so he can commit at the only time he'll ever need to (MYLO).
Like literally every fucking one else is town for pushing wile or marv, but somehow I'm not when me and jat are clearly the two persons who have been the ones most early / vocal about the scum lynched so far.
You people need to wake the fuck up. You're talking about "we need to lynch person X because otherwise it's harder to play out the MYLO". YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T BE THINKING OF GETTING TO THE FUCKING MYLO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WE SHOULD LYNCH SCUM NOW AND BE FUCKING DONE WITH IT.
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Friendly reminder that no-one out of the remaining players except for ritoky voted for Moosy, so you're not really alone in that sense (even though I'll give you credit for being correct on that read.)
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In any case you people to need to stop waffling around thinking about "what the fuck should I do to get into the best MYLO situation", it just makes each and every one of you look scummy as fuck. You should vote the scum *cough amdred*cough* and get this game finished tonight.
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Like I more than well understand geript's frustration because while you have a lot of valid points and good things in your filter, there's just so fucking much unnecessary shit it makes it a pain reading through your filter and doing it properly takes forever.
But that's irrelevant, I did it and I'm very confident you're town also.
What I want is that every single one of you stops being stupid and thinking about optimal mylo situations and just end the game tonight with me voting for Damdred.
I honestly don't understand all the waffling here. The mindset to play mafia when you have mislynches left is not "How do we play this out as long as possible to get into the best possible mylo/lylo situation", it's "kill the fucking scum with full force, now."
If for some reason you're wrong in the latter case, you still get another shot. If you just waffle about killing townies to create a better endgame scenario, you have less shots at killing scum because you're effectively handing them free mislynches.
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Is winning the game right now instead of having to spam another cycle a reason good enough?
Going to eat w/ my grandmother but back in 30 mins tops.
Vote damdred. You've agreed the case is good, or at least reasonable enough. Vote to lynch scum and win, not to get rid of players you dislike.
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Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)
Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.
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EPT
