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On September 23 2015 07:38 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2015 07:36 ritoky wrote:
You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?
I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word. I'll also make it clear. You're not the reason I'm alive. You're not a guardian of mine, I don't give a shit about anything you demand. If you want to co-operate, sure, I'm up for that. If you're going to be a dick and try to pretend being my savior, no. I don't care. Then I'll just ignore you and post what I want when I want.
What is there to co-operate with, you've been stand-offish and dismissive toward everyone; the moment someone considers you might be mafia you make 0 effort to understand or argue against it and call them and their reasons shit. Your posts don't have clear direction of where you want to go this game and the justifications tend to be lacking at best. I have spent the majority of the time you've been in the thread attempting to get you to participate in a meaningful way that will allow other players to get a proper read on you and you've just been having none of it. You've wanted to stall for ungodly amounts of time for no justified reason. You've actively refused to give reads or state a definitive target. You've treated pretty much everyone who interacts with you with venom. And quite frankly if you're town been an atrocious teammate. And yes if you didn't have confirmed town shielding you for so long you would be in a lot of trouble.
Feel free to ignore my posts, they probably won't be here for but 23 more hours; but don't think your play justifies your holier than thou attitude; regardless of your alignment.
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Scott should track whoever the heck he wants to track and he also shouldn't tell us a word about his choice. If he is not killed tonight it is his job to lynch the final mafia tomorrow because if we mislynch and he survives another night there will be problems. Tomorrow is his day to shine if he is alive.
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On September 23 2015 07:47 Palmar wrote:
I'm out for tonight.
^
same
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On September 23 2015 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
EZPZ question - Who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
Irrelevant until I have information of what happens during the night.
On September 23 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
And night is the best tile to scum,hunt ..
Any information available during the night is there just as much for scum as it is for town. It's a good time to re-evaluate and analyze your own reads on different people, but there's not much of a reason to share it with town unless you come up with something significant that would likely affect the way a power role would act that night.
Otherwise it's best to keep things to yourself and post anything of relevance before the deadline. That combined with whatever the results of the night cycle are gives a good start for the following day to continue upon.
What happens during the day is much more relevant for scumhunting than what someone says during the night in most cases.
Feel free to disagree, but this is how I see it.
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I'm not a good track target in shirt because I am most likely to be lynched tomorrow and I can generally make town rain bows appear when needed. Also I've already been tracked once and never a good thing to track me twice when you can solve other pieces if the puzzle.
Palmar might be a good track but I just think he's been pretty towns this game, has seemed generally pro town, he could,of pocketed me a bit but I don't think so. Few posts lately have been trying to clear lynchable players to,shrink the Poe which is very town.
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going to go to work in a bit
self-goal: traverse palmar and geript's filters.
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On September 23 2015 07:46 ritoky wrote:
What is there to co-operate with, you've been stand-offish and dismissive toward everyone; the moment someone considers you might be mafia you make 0 effort to understand or argue against it and call them and their reasons shit. Your posts don't have clear direction of where you want to go this game and the justifications tend to be lacking at best. I have spent the majority of the time you've been in the thread attempting to get you to participate in a meaningful way that will allow other players to get a proper read on you and you've just been having none of it. You've wanted to stall for ungodly amounts of time for no justified reason. You've actively refused to give reads or state a definitive target. You've treated pretty much everyone who interacts with you with venom. And quite frankly if you're town been an atrocious teammate. And yes if you didn't have confirmed town shielding you for so long you would be in a lot of trouble.
Feel free to ignore my posts, they probably won't be here for but 23 more hours; but don't think your play justifies your holier than thou attitude; regardless of your alignment.
I would be much more eager to co-operate if:
1) You wouldn't call me out for being "indecisive" or "unconclusive", when I clearly point out that if you really want me to share something I am not sure of myself, it's obviously not going to be very helpful in most cases.
I can see how the extra information can be valuable at times, but if all you're going to do is call me out for it, then just what the fuck are you doing? If you ask for indecisive information, that's what you fucking get. Even more so, if that's going to be your basis to make a case for me being scum.
(Me telling I'm not sure on X, you wanting me to share that I'm not sure on X in detail, then calling me scum because I opened upon something I wasn't sure of?) <-- This is absolutely fucking retarded play if you're town.
And then there's the oh god, so amazing, NAI activity argument.
Do note that with "you" I mean this on a general level, rather than you personally.
I've stated a definitive target multiple times, even if I haven't opened up on the reasoning right away. I wanted to share my read on marv D1, until rayn persuaded me not to. Which was in my opinion very reasonable, it was a lynch that was not going to happen D1. (Why should I spam up the thread with something no-one will even care about?) With me being one of the main wagons of D1, I was confident I wouldn't be able to affect a possible power role's actions by sharing my read during that night (nor should I be concerned about doing so, blues can use their own brain). During D2, the tracker claim on Wile came out early on. Why the fuck should I waste time talking about marv, in the worst case making him even more aware / careful / cause him to play differently?
N2 as per my logic, there was no reason for me to be posting about my reads at that time. I wasn't going to die anyway. And D3 I did when I had the time to do so, it just happened to be later on in the cycle. Well boo fucking hoo, sue me.
In short: Don't ask me to co-operate with you, if all you're going to is call my content shit, when you're forcing me to give you shit content. If you'd read more of my filter D1, you'd see I was much more co-operative in my attitude. Don't complain about me being "venom", when you've caused it yourself. Maybe I would have a bit more pressure on me if people if some people hadn't pointed out towny things in my filter. So what? I'm town, it's not anyone elses job to defend me. I can do that fine enough myself if it comes that far. Did I get lynched D1? No, I did not. Did I get lynched D3? No, I did not. Am I going to get lynched D4? No, I am not. I'm not going to get myself get mislynched as town.
Don't expect me to contribute much if at all during N3. I might still reply to something as I'm around for now, but once I leave that's probably it.
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Yay. I'm confirmed town even more.
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But idk who is mafia. I think I'm going to vote for Scott tomorrow.
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I'll play league tonight then post after I get off work.
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Look guys I'm sorry. The first 3-4 hours of the shift were pretty fast/easy. But at this point, I'm exhausted. There are a million reasons why I could be mafia. I'm not. There are twice as many reasons for why I'm town. I am.
Please just realize that you just need to agree to not lynch me. I'll agree to not be mafia. I can't promise to be rigth this game; hell, at this point i'm not sure I'm even decent anymore considering my last few games. But please, just grab your butts and trust me.
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On September 23 2015 08:46 geript wrote:
But idk who is mafia. I think I'm going to vote for Scott tomorrow.
I think I am going to vote YOU tomorrow. Wtf.
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On September 23 2015 07:48 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2015 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
EZPZ question - Who do you want to lynch tomorrow? Irrelevant until I have information of what happens during the night. Show nested quote +On September 23 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
And night is the best tile to scum,hunt .. Any information available during the night is there just as much for scum as it is for town. It's a good time to re-evaluate and analyze your own reads on different people, but there's not much of a reason to share it with town unless you come up with something significant that would likely affect the way a power role would act that night. Otherwise it's best to keep things to yourself and post anything of relevance before the deadline. That combined with whatever the results of the night cycle are gives a good start for the following day to continue upon. What happens during the day is much more relevant for scumhunting than what someone says during the night in most cases. Feel free to disagree, but this is how I see it.
This is horseshit.
You will not gain any information tonight. Either scott dies or ritoky dies. It doesn't matter who - we will treat scott as confirmed town tomorrow anyways. There is no reason not so say anything because YOU will not influence the nightkill anyways.
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So the only possible information you could gain is if mafia is retarded, leaves scott alive and he gets a check. That is no reason to hold back any analysis. You are just making it impossible for one of the confirmed townies to form an opinion on you before getting shot. Which is quite idiotic since if you are town you are definitely one of mafias mislynch targets.
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We're lynching geript tomorrow.
I can't remember if I pointed it out but at some point he said something like "I'm doing all I can with the time I have" when he was literally talking about penises.
He has to be mafia.
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I'll try to muster the energy to read his filter one last time to see if anything changes at some point today.
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On September 23 2015 19:42 Palmar wrote:
We're lynching geript tomorrow.
I can't remember if I pointed it out but at some point he said something like "I'm doing all I can with the time I have" when he was literally talking about penises.
He has to be mafia.
Yes, even geript can't be this wrong and bad. This has to be intentional at this point.
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There's also the strong urge to lynch him because I would never forgive myself for losing to a scum geript trolling through the game.
It's awful but it's true. I don't want to reward retarded play.
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