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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:59 GMT
#2741
as far as i am concerned, whoever didn't kill scott last night wasn't reading the thread very carefully. cuz quite frankly i was around 80% sure he was lying about his uses. jat came out with a similar sentiment immediately post-flip, which is why i currently have had town-feels about him (plus effort). damdred was at least moderately engaged that cycle.

palmar, cephiro, and geript were not.

i don't think cephiro is likely with marv from previous stuff i typed even if his recent posts are garbo. which kinda puts me at geript or palmar.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:02 GMT
#2742
and that matters more now since the "didn't have gf so didn't care about killing scott" argument is off the table.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:02 GMT
#2743
erm: had gf so didn't care*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:04 GMT
#2744
didn't someone post something about if marv is mafia and not alone he HAS to be with palmar? you should post that case tonight. thanx
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 22 2015 22:05 GMT
#2745
I doubt Palmar is dumb enough to not kill scott there... but who is really? Weird.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 22 2015 22:06 GMT
#2746
On September 23 2015 07:04 ritoky wrote:
didn't someone post something about if marv is mafia and not alone he HAS to be with palmar? you should post that case tonight. thanx

I don't know if someone did that.
I posted the only way Palmar can be mafia is if marv is too but that does not mean the same.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 22 2015 22:08 GMT
#2747
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:10 GMT
#2748
On September 23 2015 06:32 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
And all you do is try to deflect and blame the rest of the town or give many big opinions or show why your top scum read is your top read.


Pushed and voted Wile D1 until I swapped at the end because people weren't getting on him.

Been telling you marv is scum since game started.

GET FUCKED.

Think I'm just gonna idle the night with my no substance.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
I just don't get it, your posts haven't had substance at all.


NOPE. BYE.


Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive. Marv was mafia, no world of 1. I don't care about content, just give me a name of most likely mafia before the end of the night and I will be satisfied with your contribution. 1 word ain't that fucking hard.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 22 2015 22:10 GMT
#2749
On September 23 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die

Well, good thing we lynched marv today. We won't entertain this world before LYLO so scott has 2 nights to die in. If he doesn't we lynch him but until then he is confirmed town.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:11 GMT
#2750
On September 23 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die


Feel free to consider that in LYLO if you're there (I sure as fuck won't be). Considering scott as mafia isn't really on the table until then unless you got something more than feels.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#2751
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 22 2015 22:24 GMT
#2752
On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.


Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)

Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.

What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.

Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.

On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.


A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.

Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.

I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.


Not that he should live through the night anyway.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#2753
Not trying to be a dick about it but day1 you voted on town and day2/3 you voted the claimed mafia like everyone else.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 22:32 GMT
#2754
On September 23 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die


Every fucking game people try these magic bus theories. It's like Koshi calling JAT mafia. It happens in every game.

The only BS I've shot off is/was the number of my checks.

On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik


Day 1 Votecount


Cephiro (3): Koshi, Onegu, marvellosity, Koshi, Palmar, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, geript
Moosydoosy (5): raynpelikoneet, Wile E. Coyote, Palmar, marvellosity, Koshi, ritoky, marvellosity
justanothertownie (3): Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, scott31337, Damdred, Cephiro
Wile E. Coyote (1): Moosydoosy, Cephiro
Onegu (0): Palmar
Palmar (0): geript
marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu, justanothertownie, Koshi
Damdred (0): Onegu
geript (0): raynpelikoneet, Palmar

Not Voting (0):

Voting ends in at 21:30 GMT (+00:00).[/QUOTE]

I'd do the other two days but that's kind of pointless.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 22:34 GMT
#2755
On September 23 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.


Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)

Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.

What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.

Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.


A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.

Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.

I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.


Not that he should live through the night anyway.


EZPZ question - Who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:36 GMT
#2756
On September 23 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.


Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)

Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.

What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.

Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.


A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.

Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.

I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.


Not that he should live through the night anyway.


You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?

I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 22 2015 22:36 GMT
#2757
I don't think you are obvious town at this juncture, a track on you would clear up certain things and shrink,the lynch pool however and me you geript are the thread biggest contentions.

And night is the best tile to scum,hunt ..

You and geript are the best tracks if Scott is real. Me I'm a horrid track and I'm probably getting lynched anywsy
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 22 2015 22:36 GMT
#2758
Only from your perspective, you're not confirmed to anyone but yourself.

I'd like to remind you I was the only player along with Moosy (who died D1) to even vote for Wile N1, but no-one else seemed to agree it's an option viable enough.

Day 2 is obviously not relevant, everyone will always vote for the claimed scum in that scenario.

Day 3 ended up not mattering, I would have expected marv to play it out since I feel he would've had a decent chance of avoiding a lynch if he put his all into it (maybe time issues irl? Iuno.)

In any case, you and me have both been going for marv since very early on in the game, and you picked on pushing Wile not too long after me either. Like honestly, I do know it's well within both of our reach to do a double-bus if the situation warranted for it, but going hard on both scumbuddies since the start? Especially continuing this hard on marv after the D2 wile flip? Not to mention that koshi kill I would never have done as scum (you say you would've). Like honestly the only reason I don't consider you as confirmed town is because you taking advantage of your presence and rolling with it + the extra cred is an extremely small possibility (yet a viable one), and the fact that I haven't seen your role pm while I've seen mine.

For all I care aside ritoky (conf town), you should stick around till LYLO if we don't end it before then. You're not going to do a slip if you're mafia anyway, and the possibility that you're mafia is much, much smaller than that you're town.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 22 2015 22:38 GMT
#2759
On September 23 2015 07:36 ritoky wrote:
You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?

I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word.


I'll also make it clear.

You're not the reason I'm alive. You're not a guardian of mine, I don't give a shit about anything you demand. If you want to co-operate, sure, I'm up for that. If you're going to be a dick and try to pretend being my savior, no. I don't care. Then I'll just ignore you and post what I want when I want.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 22 2015 22:39 GMT
#2760
On September 23 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I don't think you are obvious town at this juncture, a track on you would clear up certain things and shrink,the lynch pool however and me you geript are the thread biggest contentions.

And night is the best tile to scum,hunt ..

You and geript are the best tracks if Scott is real. Me I'm a horrid track and I'm probably getting lynched anywsy


Give me a short explanation of why Palmar is not a valid track target, if you truly, honestly, somehow think I'm a good track target (and you aren't?).
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