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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2015 22:34 GMT
#221
On September 15 2015 07:31 Cephiro wrote:
@Damdred: Is there a particular reason you want to push your reads out that much that early?

I don't mind you sharing your reads at all, that's rarely a bad thing. But we're in a point of the game where you hardly have any proper information to correctly peg someone with. And thus far you're just posting every few minutes saying who you're learning town/scum on, at a point where it's extremely unlikely you even have a proper opinion of stuff yourself.

As in, don't you think you could be contributing more by asking questions or creating content in other ways, rather than just constantly throwing out reads of "X seems town, Y might not be"?

That's what people do, and tbh i agree with almost all of Damdred's reads atm.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 14 2015 22:35 GMT
#222
On September 15 2015 07:31 Cephiro wrote:
@Damdred: Is there a particular reason you want to push your reads out that much that early?

I don't mind you sharing your reads at all, that's rarely a bad thing. But we're in a point of the game where you hardly have any proper information to correctly peg someone with. And thus far you're just posting every few minutes saying who you're learning town/scum on, at a point where it's extremely unlikely you even have a proper opinion of stuff yourself.

As in, don't you think you could be contributing more by asking questions or creating content in other ways, rather than just constantly throwing out reads of "X seems town, Y might not be"?

That's the thing to do currently. At the start of each game people (always the same people) post some irrelevant nonsense and townread each other for it. It is stupid but discussion has to start somewhere.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 14 2015 22:36 GMT
#223
On September 15 2015 07:31 Cephiro wrote:
@Damdred: Is there a particular reason you want to push your reads out that much that early?

I don't mind you sharing your reads at all, that's rarely a bad thing. But we're in a point of the game where you hardly have any proper information to correctly peg someone with. And thus far you're just posting every few minutes saying who you're learning town/scum on, at a point where it's extremely unlikely you even have a proper opinion of stuff yourself.

As in, don't you think you could be contributing more by asking questions or creating content in other ways, rather than just constantly throwing out reads of "X seems town, Y might not be"?


I'm really good at reading people I play with a lot on little content, rayn is a good example ritoky is probably the best example. I generally can tell very early with a good percentage.

Do I think that I could get more out of questions? I'm not sure currently the only people in susicuous of are geript. I don't know about wilie and JAT is a null. So I have a lot of town reads online where my questions would be better served with someone who hasn't shown up yet.

And I'm not sure if its true that I can't have proper opinions this early
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 14 2015 22:36 GMT
#224
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?
Computer says mafia
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 14 2015 22:36 GMT
#225
On September 15 2015 07:31 Cephiro wrote:
@Damdred: Is there a particular reason you want to push your reads out that much that early?

I don't mind you sharing your reads at all, that's rarely a bad thing. But we're in a point of the game where you hardly have any proper information to correctly peg someone with. And thus far you're just posting every few minutes saying who you're learning town/scum on, at a point where it's extremely unlikely you even have a proper opinion of stuff yourself.

As in, don't you think you could be contributing more by asking questions or creating content in other ways, rather than just constantly throwing out reads of "X seems town, Y might not be"?

nope that's how he interacts. he pings out tone reads (like me) and see what people think. everything up to this point is tone and meta. unfortunately i'm lacking in the latter for this game but i;ll make do,
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#226
imo geript is likely town. I don't see the point in being this mehish as mafia. He can do better. Solid read.

#Koshi4MVP
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#227
On September 15 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I'm really good at reading people I play with a lot on little content, rayn is a good example ritoky is probably the best example. I generally can tell very early with a good percentage.

I am curious, where is this content from ritoky you are talking about?
table for two on a tv tray
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#228
i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#229
On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?

I don't remember what you normally do so it's ok. And I am the authority in this thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#230
On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?


Does it help I feel rather motivated? For now at least
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#231
On September 15 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
imo geript is likely town. I don't see the point in being this mehish as mafia. He can do better. Solid read.

#Koshi4MVP


guy is stealing my gifs first, now he stealing my hashtags. fucking thief.

#townlyfe
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#232
On September 15 2015 07:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?


Does it help I feel rather motivated? For now at least

don't worry. the #rayntunnel is the next stop.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#233
On September 15 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?

I don't remember what you normally do so it's ok. And I am the authority in this thread.

May god have mercy on our souls.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 14 2015 22:40 GMT
#234
On September 15 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?

I don't remember what you normally do so it's ok. And I am the authority in this thread.

May god have mercy on our souls.

i like this post a lot. like a lot a lot.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 14 2015 22:41 GMT
#235
ayo moosy:

On September 15 2015 07:31 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:15 ritoky wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:14 Cephiro wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:
@cephiro, if you had to work in the military or the theater, which would you work at?


@Military, because I'm a reserve officer.


then why so melodramatic instead of proportional response?


I haven't followed the mafia of this forum in about two years or so, and I didn't particularly care about doing my research on "how does a normal TL mafia day 1 look like recently". I play like I want to play, if someone wants to peg me as mafia or town because of being serious or not, that's up to them.

I figure I'll be participating enough for people that bother to play the game properly to be able to correctly read me as town with my input, rather than wasting their time on guessing based on their own conclusions which are likely to be extremely off.

What I mean by this is that it's stupid to assume someone's emotional state (especially someone you have no idea of, or at least someone you haven't seen any play from in over 2 years) based on a few posts earlygame, and then make a read on that. You can get a feel for what you think of that persons alignment, sure. But anything concrete? Highly unlikely.

If I seem too serious by TL standard then so be it, you'll have to adapt your reads accordingly. But maybe you shouldn't compare someone who has no idea of what is "TL standard" at the moment, nor any interest in trying to fit the "TL standard", to the TL standard. I'm me, I play like I play. If you should compare my play to anything, it should be compared against the content I end up producing in this game. (I'm quite confident in saying if you try to read 2+ year old games to try and get a "meta" on me, you're just going to waste your time. Feel free to, if you think otherwise however.)

Short ver: I play like I want to play, I have no need to "fit a mold". If someone thinks I'm scummy because of that, that's their loss. If someone wants to paint me as scummy because of that, good luck pushing your bad agenda.

I'm going to note this real quick in my own filter. :D


then there's the part where you say why you think that post is significant. you should do that part.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#236
On September 15 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I'm really good at reading people I play with a lot on little content, rayn is a good example ritoky is probably the best example. I generally can tell very early with a good percentage.

I am curious, where is this content from ritoky you are talking about?


As stupid as it sounds early on its just as indicative of ritoky non content vs content.

His first few posts is a way that he would post coming from a town rit as its pretty care free and non caring.

His later couple posts while seeming to play on humor do focus oj a point from my point of view at least. Its just a way I think he plays from a town perspective.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 14 2015 22:43 GMT
#237
@Dam: Thanks for addressing my questions.
@ rayn, Moosy, jat: I guess you all have a point, but for now I'll stick to my own conclusions of different actions. I suppose the game has to be started somehow, you'll have to pardon me for not joining this "everyone gets a read" -start, as I'd prefer to be more confident in my reads before sharing any (unless others feel like my opinion is valuable enough / they need more contest to be able to read me from), in which case I'm willing to share my more unsure / leaning a bit towards something reads.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2015 22:43 GMT
#238
@moosy, do what ritoky does.



[image loading]
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2015 22:43 GMT
#239
@moosy, reply to what ritoky asks you.


[image loading]
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 14 2015 22:44 GMT
#240
On September 15 2015 07:41 ritoky wrote:
ayo moosy:

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:31 ritoky wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:15 ritoky wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:14 Cephiro wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:
@cephiro, if you had to work in the military or the theater, which would you work at?


@Military, because I'm a reserve officer.


then why so melodramatic instead of proportional response?


I haven't followed the mafia of this forum in about two years or so, and I didn't particularly care about doing my research on "how does a normal TL mafia day 1 look like recently". I play like I want to play, if someone wants to peg me as mafia or town because of being serious or not, that's up to them.

I figure I'll be participating enough for people that bother to play the game properly to be able to correctly read me as town with my input, rather than wasting their time on guessing based on their own conclusions which are likely to be extremely off.

What I mean by this is that it's stupid to assume someone's emotional state (especially someone you have no idea of, or at least someone you haven't seen any play from in over 2 years) based on a few posts earlygame, and then make a read on that. You can get a feel for what you think of that persons alignment, sure. But anything concrete? Highly unlikely.

If I seem too serious by TL standard then so be it, you'll have to adapt your reads accordingly. But maybe you shouldn't compare someone who has no idea of what is "TL standard" at the moment, nor any interest in trying to fit the "TL standard", to the TL standard. I'm me, I play like I play. If you should compare my play to anything, it should be compared against the content I end up producing in this game. (I'm quite confident in saying if you try to read 2+ year old games to try and get a "meta" on me, you're just going to waste your time. Feel free to, if you think otherwise however.)

Short ver: I play like I want to play, I have no need to "fit a mold". If someone thinks I'm scummy because of that, that's their loss. If someone wants to paint me as scummy because of that, good luck pushing your bad agenda.

I'm going to note this real quick in my own filter. :D


then there's the part where you say why you think that post is significant. you should do that part.


to expound a small bit this string of posts while rit isn't trolling he's after a point he wnats to make.

and I think its towny direction
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