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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:35 GMT
#1421
The only other option is Moosy is mafia.
There is no way yamato dies over me otherwise.
table for two on a tv tray
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 07 2015 22:35 GMT
#1422
rayn. Seriously? GB is not the lynch here. I've posted why before, but tl;dr is that there's no good reason to lynch into a doctor claim without a CC, and the only claim that makes sense is from a weak-town doctor who feels it's worth trading their lives for a shot at taking out the godfather or roleblocker. Otherwise, blue flips will out GB in time, and town can spend time looking for other mafia.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#1423
rip me

shoulda posted at night I guess
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#1424
gg yamato
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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#1425
On September 08 2015 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only other option is Moosy is mafia.
There is no way yamato dies over me otherwise.

NK WIFOM best WIFOM?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 22:38 GMT
#1426
Fidei without the claim do you want to lynch GB?

Even with the claim like it is a shit claim if he was actually a doctor I have no doubt he would claim blue there not "doctor". But no claiming the specific role have him a better chance of survival.

You have to just sack up and lynch the fake claim sometimes
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:38 GMT
#1427
nvm.
##unvote
##vote: MoosyDoosy


He's gotta be scum. I trust yamato and i think that's why he died.
Otherwise we have played terribly in this game and i don't believe it's the case here.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2015 22:42 GMT
#1428
rip

domo arigato mr yamato :/
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2015 22:44 GMT
#1429
@Rayn

What if they killed yamato because you were the obvious doctor protected person?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:45 GMT
#1430
On September 08 2015 07:37 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2015 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only other option is Moosy is mafia.
There is no way yamato dies over me otherwise.

NK WIFOM best WIFOM?

Then why do you suggest yamato dies over me?
there is literally zero reason for that regardless of how good/bad my reasons are unless you think either:
1) GB is mafia
2) i am mafia

so which one is it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:45 GMT
#1431
On September 08 2015 07:44 CopCake wrote:
@Rayn

What if they killed yamato because you were the obvious doctor protected person?

see my post above.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 07 2015 22:49 GMT
#1432
I was roleblocked. I tried to save yamato.

##vote: rayn

You're mafia.
I'm adorable.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 07 2015 22:52 GMT
#1433
GG's yamato - makes things interesting.

I really like rayn's and boxer's post - I could sheep them - Fidei's been off and showing his contradictions like that shows. Sounds like a pretty good lynch.

Makes me want to re-read slam's filter and see if there is any substance to it or a bunch words.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 07 2015 22:54 GMT
#1434
On September 08 2015 07:38 Breshke wrote:
Fidei without the claim do you want to lynch GB?

Even with the claim like it is a shit claim if he was actually a doctor I have no doubt he would claim blue there not "doctor". But no claiming the specific role have him a better chance of survival.

You have to just sack up and lynch the fake claim sometimes

I dunno - claiming "blue" is so much harder to counter-claim. If he claims blue, it's so much safer for him as mafia, because then he is only really a confirmed liar once at least one, but perhaps two of the blues flip. Now if he's mafia, he knows the setup, so he obviously doesn't claim any of the roles that aren't here. But even then, if he claims blue then neither the doctor or the cop can prove he's lying until their counter-part flips.

I just flicked back through his filter. I actually thought some of his reads were okay. He had read evolution on rayn (from scum, to scum-lean/null), his read on n00b was right and he pointed out some sharp things about scott's filter and a couple of the other less-read people. FWIW, I also agree with his early flame post on rayn - the things rayn started off saying were so over the top, it wasn't even real. I don't think GB was right to instantly scum-read rayn for them, but he can be forgiven I think, because he pulled his read back later. The biggest black mark against him is definitely his drop off in activity - particularly in the time leading up to the vote and the vote itself. That, and he seemed content to park his vote on scott rather than making a decision about the two wagons that actually had a shot of going somewhere. That is pretty scummy behaviour (yes, yes, I did the same on BF, but I wasn't indifferent about the lynch at all, whereas GB did seem that way). And if he really was sleeping, it's super convenient that he came back at exactly the right time to claim and get an alternative wagon going. And the contradiction you pointed out earlier was telling.

IDK, I'd say he's probably null for me because it all just balances out. And his weird early claim thing totally fits with the meta I've seen from him, which is to make weird fake claim plays to try and bait out mafia (he did it in Himalayas, for example). I definitely thought he was a better lynch than n00b or Cake, but I wasn't super enthusiastic about it then either.

But all of that is sort of irrelevant - he's claimed now and my view is that, mechanically, lynching into the fake check is a risk we don't have to take - the flips will reveal his alignment in due course, and it's not like we can get rid of KP. Yeah, getting the RBer or the GF would be nice, but I don't know if it's worth the trade, given that there is no miller and the RBer is unlikely to find the cop this early.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:55 GMT
#1435
On September 08 2015 07:49 GlowingBear wrote:
I was roleblocked. I tried to save yamato.

##vote: rayn

You're mafia.

you are terrible.
i will not play a fucking game with you NEVER more.
NEVER.

you are so bad at this game. so... so... so.. bad.

unless you are mafia.
I have had enough.
afk.

##unvote
##vote: GlowingBear


this is how far i got without getting mad.
my vote will not change, ever in this game.
so you better lynch me or GlowingBear. I will not give any fucking fucks what he flips and i hope he never talks to me any more.
table for two on a tv tray
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 22:55 GMT
#1436
Explain to me how any flips will reveal GB's alignment.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2015 22:56 GMT
#1437
GlowingBear you are literalyl the most fucking anti-tpown player there is EVER in any game and you should be lynched D1 in EVERY SINGLE game regardless of your affiliation. Because when you are town you are not +1, but +2 mafia.

You are just so fucking bad.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2015 22:56 GMT
#1438
LMAO GB outed himself
##vote: GlowingBear
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 07 2015 22:57 GMT
#1439
On September 08 2015 07:52 scott31337 wrote:
GG's yamato - makes things interesting.

I really like rayn's and boxer's post - I could sheep them - Fidei's been off and showing his contradictions like that shows. Sounds like a pretty good lynch.

Makes me want to re-read slam's filter and see if there is any substance to it or a bunch words.


I disagree.

Rayn is a good player but his play here is completely off. His scumread here is based solely on a night kill wifom (pointed out by fidei), he even decided I not the doctor because yamato was shot LOL

Other person that has been falling is Superbia. He started well, got slight townreads and his play turned out to be completely forgettable after that. What are his scumreads? Who does he want to lynch? He seems extremely disinterested in that and simply lets the game carry on.
I'm adorable.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 07 2015 22:57 GMT
#1440
On September 08 2015 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2015 07:37 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 08 2015 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only other option is Moosy is mafia.
There is no way yamato dies over me otherwise.

NK WIFOM best WIFOM?

Then why do you suggest yamato dies over me?
there is literally zero reason for that regardless of how good/bad my reasons are unless you think either:
1) GB is mafia
2) i am mafia

so which one is it?

I thought yamato was much more towny than you. I know that when you're town, you always think that it must be BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS to everyone that you are also town. But there is no reason for mafia yamato to move his vote from n00b (confirmed town) onto GB so late in the day, in a manner that's going to force his scum-mates to make a difficult decision under pressure. His read evolution on GB was also very organic. I think he was much townier than you. And even if you call it a wash, at least he was posting thoughtful posts. You're posting some thoughtful stuff, but you're also posting a lot of hyperbole that's distracting town and that's useful for mafia.

I agree, your alignment probably isn't the same as GBs. But I've seen too many bus attempts to rely solely on that to read someone.
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