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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 06 2015 23:10 GMT
#1321
Huhhhh

huuhh

fck
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 06 2015 23:10 GMT
#1322
Don't worry Bresh, you didn't miss much.
Kappa.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:26 GMT
#1323
I'm thinking one possible focus are the more or less under the radar players. n00b said something along the lines of rayn "doing all the work for them" not saying the entire team is inactive but they can afford to lay back if town are stumbling about in the wrong direction.

Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent.

I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town.

Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak.

Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this.

The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858.

"I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything"

Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#1324
On September 07 2015 08:00 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 07:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Now fucking lynch scott and Rayn


rayn, definitely not,

scott, do you have something stronger than what you previously posted? Because I don't think his play is mafia exclusive.


Without a Doc/Vig/JK/Vet claim I guess I have to believe him, but there's no point claiming before D2 and getting RB'ed anyway.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:32 GMT
#1325
On September 06 2015 06:30 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:03 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote:
n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.

Fucking LOL

pot, kettle, black

Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am.


stop bitching. this is the site with the most quality mafia games on the internet.

why is cake mafia?

Most games, maybe, which is why I came here. Because the places I like to play don't have games as frequently. But there's no quality here.

Cake is suspicious because her vote against me comes in an obvious pile-on position for Scum that is looking for a safe place to land. She continually says things about Moosy that are not true, and projects onto him her own scummy behaviors, as though she's watching a mirror instead of watching him. She is also overly defensive in situations that don't call for it. Which is not always a Scum trait, but is seen from Scum more often than from Town, in my experience. GlowingBear and Scott (mostly GB) have cited specific posts from CopCake that are suspicious, and I had similar findings.


For future reference, as some of the bolded wasn't in my original case, particularly the vote. I also took issue with her points on moosy, and she never resolved this.

Past midnight here so I'll return tomorrow. Good night.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1326
On September 07 2015 08:26 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm thinking one possible focus are the more or less under the radar players. n00b said something along the lines of rayn "doing all the work for them" not saying the entire team is inactive but they can afford to lay back if town are stumbling about in the wrong direction.

Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent.

I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town.

Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak.

Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this.

The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858.

"I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything"

Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle.

hello?? my reads have been the best of us all and i'm about to fucking carry town right now.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:34 GMT
#1327
On September 07 2015 08:29 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 08:00 NocturneMage wrote:
On September 07 2015 07:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Now fucking lynch scott and Rayn


rayn, definitely not,

scott, do you have something stronger than what you previously posted? Because I don't think his play is mafia exclusive.


Without a Doc/Vig/JK/Vet claim I guess I have to believe him, but there's no point claiming before D2 and getting RB'ed anyway.


That was a poor phrasing on my part. That post was actually directed at gb to provide a stronger case on you.

Not saying you need to provide a stronger case on gb.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:37 GMT
#1328
MD, my focus has been largely on noob/gb/cake (the wagons) or other players I had issues with (slam) since I replaced in.

Didn't really get a chance anyhow to look that close at you, all that comes to mind on you is cake pushing you for what I thought was poor reasons.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:39 GMT
#1329
MD you also said you were going to post or place a case or something against Cake.

I forgot how close we were to eod when I last asked but what were your main points prior to lynch?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#1330
If boxer doesn't step it up tomorrow we should push him for sure.
Fidei just seems slightly off from his town games - I read his filter and there's a lot of tunnel on MD - what's your thoughts on MD now?

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 06 2015 23:41 GMT
#1331
On September 07 2015 08:39 NocturneMage wrote:
MD you also said you were going to post or place a case or something against Cake.

I forgot how close we were to eod when I last asked but what were your main points prior to lynch?

i will provide that end of n1. rite now im working on a list post and re-reading thru filters.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 06 2015 23:43 GMT
#1332
A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

If gb's claim is true, and for now we assume it is - then there's definitely a cop about. And no framer to mess about.

I'd recommend to check into breshke/boxer/slam. MD has a 7 page filter which can be sorted out.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 07 2015 00:05 GMT
#1333
Do not check slam, he is green

Also do not check GB, that is a waste

Check someone YOU want to check, do not listen to other players saying things
Writer@WriterYamato
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 07 2015 00:13 GMT
#1334
ok i've calmed down a bit. this is where i'm at.

town: raynpelikoneet, NocturneMage
town lean: yamato77
null: Superbia, scott31337, boxerfred, Breshke, Alakaslam
people to look into: CopCake, Fidei86, GlowingBear

i want reads from all of my null people.
- Superbia has been asking a lot but not giving much reads which creates the illusion of a town working hard.
- boxerfred and Breshke need to participate some more.
- Alakaslam needs to do some more work and not filling his filter with useless posts. has a relaxed manner and the town read on n00bKing which i liked.

people to look into:
- GlowingBear's play was weird af at EoD. he needs to put in some work although he'll probably be sorted out by D2.
- i've already talked about CopCake.
- Fidei86 did some weird EoD things and i don't like how he's focused on me when i've answered his questions. rather he's refused to listen to them and seems to want to force a lynch on me. he's also been town reading copcake for no reason. once copcake flips scum, this is my next target.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 00:27 GMT
#1335
On September 07 2015 08:26 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm thinking one possible focus are the more or less under the radar players. n00b said something along the lines of rayn "doing all the work for them" not saying the entire team is inactive but they can afford to lay back if town are stumbling about in the wrong direction.

Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent.

I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town.

Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak.

Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this.

The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858.

"I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything"

Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle.


Ya noob was interacting/pushing rayn but he thought that dude wasn't scum and he stillw asn't doing anything else.
this is what I meant by that
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 00:32 GMT
#1336
On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT


Gb just to be clear you only claimed vigi at the start so you wouldn't be shot during the night?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 01:34 GMT
#1337
Basically GB is lying. He did not claim vigi to "not get shot".

On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.


Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi.

Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red.

So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments.

What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 07 2015 02:10 GMT
#1338
On September 07 2015 10:34 Breshke wrote:
Basically GB is lying. He did not claim vigi to "not get shot".

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.


Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi.

Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red.

So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments.

What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit.


So In theory GB's claim will solve itself tomorrow and it's why I personally did not want to drain on it, but makes me curious why want you want to tonight - time zones?

Do you think the claim is bullshit?

Who else do you think are mafia?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 02:22 GMT
#1339
On September 07 2015 11:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 10:34 Breshke wrote:
Basically GB is lying. He did not claim vigi to "not get shot".

On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.


Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi.

Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red.

So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments.

What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit.


So In theory GB's claim will solve itself tomorrow and it's why I personally did not want to drain on it, but makes me curious why want you want to tonight - time zones?

Do you think the claim is bullshit?

Who else do you think are mafia?


Because saying it will solve itself tonight is fairly meh tbh. If GB is actualy the doctor then mafia have a RB and what stops them from just RBing him to infinity. So no I think people need to make a judgement because what if GB doesn't die are you going to be like "yeah he is confirmed mafia".

Yeah I do. What do you think about why I pointed out?

I have no answer right now I want to read EoD again but I have a test tomorrow and am doing some study atm.


scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 07 2015 02:36 GMT
#1340
I'm actually not thinking he's confirmed mafia, if he's true they will RB him - if he's not - they'll bullshit an RB - and on D2 the other four roles I posted (NOT COP) can CC and he's toast. They know the setup. His play has been pretty bad. Boxer's has been bad. We will find out more D2. I do not like doing extra work when it is not needed.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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