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On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me
My apologies yamato, I've been too focused on people I think may be scummy.
Rayn/yamato, what do you think of the fact that copcake thinks a mafia circle with both moosy and noobking is likely? Even though moosy (if he's mafia) would (in his world) lock clear copcake as town if noobking is mafia.
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On September 07 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me If you think noobking is (most likely to be?) mafia then you are probably fine with the lynch? Should i read/comment onto something you have brought up before the lynch? If you think that's the case please let me know..
Dude wow you ARE ignoring him
Go read his filter after a smoke man
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On September 07 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me If you think noobking is (most likely to be?) mafia then you are probably fine with the lynch? Should i read/comment onto something you have brought up before the lynch? If you think that's the case please let me know..
I actually think he's probably not mafia but it seems people are highly unwilling to make any sort of concerted effort to get anyone else lynched besides cop (lol)
GB meanwhile makes a half-assed case on scott and goes completely ignored.
I really want to lynch GB
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On September 07 2015 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 07 2015 05:44 Alakaslam wrote:On September 07 2015 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, boxerfred is not mafia. How do you know Obviously because i am mafia. What kinda stupid question is this? READ ME WITHOUT BIAS YOU DAMN FOOL!! Lol Rayn What has boxer posted even for you to know one way or the other? Slow down on the conclusions train
I am not reading you with any bias.
You fail to answer a single fucking question about your read that makes ZERO sense. You fail to explain where your read comes from. I asked you TWICE, your answer said NOTHING relevant to my question,. Your read on Breshke, as i pointed out, made ZERO sense at all.
Boxerfred focuses on relevant things while not posting much. Also his vote is on scum, therefore he is town.
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On September 07 2015 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:Superbia, I'm home but I'm not feeling well, so I'm not going to format it well so I can take a quick nap quicker: Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town This post may appear contributive at first glance but it's basically a summary of the thread at that point and reads accordingly to thread sentiment, bringing nothing new to the table. Why is Rayn town, why he is so quick to give yamato a townread like that? Why just saying I'm "drinking" again, discrediting me? It's a bunch of rehash with an attempt of looking contributive without actually contributing. He then starts to post reads accordingly to his progression on the pages of thread, cluttering the thread with partial and outdated information he keeps further reevaluating instead of just giving his opinion on one big post. My problem with this is that he is again trying to look contributive while not actually being contributive. Worse. He is cluttering the thread just to show "look, I'm doing stuff!" instead of interacting and actually search for Mafia. He is very bold when he gives reads. Calls Nocturne "town" with no back reqsoning when he was suspicious of mage's slot. He gives 3 names of people he thinks are Mafia and he could lynch (sayinf maybe I'm not Mafia an cake is) but posts this: Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote:
I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really. For someone who has 3-4 scumreads, this is extremely scummy. Why is he okay with boxer's lynch if he has THREE better targets and he even ADMITS boxer is only a policy? I see no better lynch.
People's opinions on this?
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On September 07 2015 05:48 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me My apologies yamato, I've been too focused on people I think may be scummy. Rayn/yamato, what do you think of the fact that copcake thinks a mafia circle with both moosy and noobking is likely? Even though moosy (if he's mafia) would (in his world) lock clear copcake as town if noobking is mafia.
I'll weigh in on this.
Defensiveness when attacked can cause you to draw fast associations between those who attacked you. This is kind of what I was doing with Breshke but not exactly.
I think it's null.
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On September 07 2015 05:51 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:48 Superbia wrote:On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me My apologies yamato, I've been too focused on people I think may be scummy. Rayn/yamato, what do you think of the fact that copcake thinks a mafia circle with both moosy and noobking is likely? Even though moosy (if he's mafia) would (in his world) lock clear copcake as town if noobking is mafia. I'll weigh in on this. Defensiveness when attacked can cause you to draw fast associations between those who attacked you. This is kind of what I was doing with Breshke but not exactly. I think it's null.
Essentially this.
Rayn, I think you're pretty wrong on Slam btw
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On September 07 2015 05:49 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me If you think noobking is (most likely to be?) mafia then you are probably fine with the lynch? Should i read/comment onto something you have brought up before the lynch? If you think that's the case please let me know.. I actually think he's probably not mafia but it seems people are highly unwilling to make any sort of concerted effort to get anyone else lynched besides cop (lol) GB meanwhile makes a half-assed case on scott and goes completely ignored. I really want to lynch GB
I agree his case is terrible. However he has presented a scumread on noobking aswell.
Why does mafia!GB not sheep rayn and lynch noobking instead of making a half-arsed case on scott?
I can't understand it.
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On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:37 n00bKing wrote:On September 07 2015 05:24 Superbia wrote:
Noobking what is moosy's alignment? Sorry, my PM only said that I was Town. It doesn't give me Moosy's alignment too. But he has not said anything that gives me reason to scumread him. And I would powerfully object to him being the Day 1 lynch. In his filter of XIII student mafia (iirc, where you were mafia and he was town), he said that you always read correctly call him town early on. This leads me to believe that you have a decent read on him. Is this true?
I suppose. I have correctly identified him (early) as Town, in each game where he was Town. But until I've correctly identified him as Scum in a game, I would be hesitant to say that I have a good read on him. The players I have good reads on, I KNOW I have correctly pegged as both allegiances.
On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Also, what do you think of the rest of town at the moment? Give an estimation on everyone whether you think they're town or mafia.
No.
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On September 07 2015 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:On September 07 2015 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 07 2015 05:44 Alakaslam wrote:On September 07 2015 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, boxerfred is not mafia. How do you know Obviously because i am mafia. What kinda stupid question is this? READ ME WITHOUT BIAS YOU DAMN FOOL!! Lol Rayn What has boxer posted even for you to know one way or the other? Slow down on the conclusions train I am not reading you with any bias. You fail to answer a single fucking question about your read that makes ZERO sense. You fail to explain where your read comes from. I asked you TWICE, your answer said NOTHING relevant to my question,. Your read on Breshke, as i pointed out, made ZERO sense at all. Boxerfred focuses on relevant things while not posting much. Also his vote is on scum, therefore he is town.
Late night and I didn't even get where you were coming from on the question (still don't)
It was like trying to understand my own bad Spanish
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You guys really think GB's case is terrible?
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And bussing Rayn lol.
That is how I know you must chill
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On September 07 2015 05:52 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote:On September 07 2015 05:37 n00bKing wrote:On September 07 2015 05:24 Superbia wrote:
Noobking what is moosy's alignment? Sorry, my PM only said that I was Town. It doesn't give me Moosy's alignment too. But he has not said anything that gives me reason to scumread him. And I would powerfully object to him being the Day 1 lynch. In his filter of XIII student mafia (iirc, where you were mafia and he was town), he said that you always read correctly call him town early on. This leads me to believe that you have a decent read on him. Is this true? I suppose. I have correctly identified him (early) as Town, in each game where he was Town. But until I've correctly identified him as Scum in a game, I would be hesitant to say that I have a good read on him. The players I have good reads on, I KNOW I have correctly pegged as both allegiances. Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Also, what do you think of the rest of town at the moment? Give an estimation on everyone whether you think they're town or mafia. No.
Why the fuck not? If you're getting lynched and (in your world) flip town, do you not think it is important to have your reads out?
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On September 07 2015 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:49 yamato77 wrote:On September 07 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me If you think noobking is (most likely to be?) mafia then you are probably fine with the lynch? Should i read/comment onto something you have brought up before the lynch? If you think that's the case please let me know.. I actually think he's probably not mafia but it seems people are highly unwilling to make any sort of concerted effort to get anyone else lynched besides cop (lol) GB meanwhile makes a half-assed case on scott and goes completely ignored. I really want to lynch GB I agree his case is terrible. However he has presented a scumread on noobking aswell. Why does mafia!GB not sheep rayn and lynch noobking instead of making a half-arsed case on scott? I can't understand it.
Why does town GB do the same thing?
Scum GB does not necessarily make sense. His reads do not mean anything. He even has this little contrived idea of scumreading one town and one mafia, and townreading one town and one mafia. Reading him based on thread flow is bad.
He is, however, effectively opting out of any serious lynch discussion and seems absolutely content with the lynch going through while his vote goes elsewhere. His motivations? Perhaps to distance himself from the lynch and appear to have his own ideas. As town I think GB would be more vocal about a realistic lynch choice.
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On September 07 2015 05:53 Superbia wrote:
You guys really think GB's case is terrible?
I actually don't fully get it to begin with, thT's not why I think he is scum.
It's his overall demeanor, not mood but
Ok.
He votes very lackadaisically until I point that out, then he has a case on Scott.
No, too late imo
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On September 07 2015 05:50 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:Superbia, I'm home but I'm not feeling well, so I'm not going to format it well so I can take a quick nap quicker: On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town This post may appear contributive at first glance but it's basically a summary of the thread at that point and reads accordingly to thread sentiment, bringing nothing new to the table. Why is Rayn town, why he is so quick to give yamato a townread like that? Why just saying I'm "drinking" again, discrediting me? It's a bunch of rehash with an attempt of looking contributive without actually contributing. He then starts to post reads accordingly to his progression on the pages of thread, cluttering the thread with partial and outdated information he keeps further reevaluating instead of just giving his opinion on one big post. My problem with this is that he is again trying to look contributive while not actually being contributive. Worse. He is cluttering the thread just to show "look, I'm doing stuff!" instead of interacting and actually search for Mafia. He is very bold when he gives reads. Calls Nocturne "town" with no back reqsoning when he was suspicious of mage's slot. He gives 3 names of people he thinks are Mafia and he could lynch (sayinf maybe I'm not Mafia an cake is) but posts this: On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote:
I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really. For someone who has 3-4 scumreads, this is extremely scummy. Why is he okay with boxer's lynch if he has THREE better targets and he even ADMITS boxer is only a policy? I see no better lynch. People's opinions on this?
First half is weak - I already explained why. Scott seems to have a habit (from having read/observed past games, namely the last couple of newbies, where he's exhibited similar bheaviour as town. List posts aren't well explained, the explanations aren't thought out. He could be mafia but it's not for this.
So I pushed for more information. The second half where scott is feeling boxerfred lynch, made me go back through his filter to see where he was on his scumreads. That one-liner is scummy when he had sttronger scumreads.
I put out questions to Scott on where he stood on people because of that. He talks about gb but considering I'm not convinced on any of the cases on gb, I am curious to hear from him why.
yamato is saying he doesn't agree with gb's posting but unless I missed it I want to see specifics because nothing is jumpting out at me now.
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On September 07 2015 05:53 Superbia wrote:
You guys really think GB's case is terrible?
I do. Because his case is based on the fact "scott has three scumreads and then wants to lynch boxer" while in fact scott has TWO scumreads (noobking and GB) and adds boxer there as a third.
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