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On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote:
Hydra said it was there first game.
Firstly...WHERE?
Secondly, that would mean nothing, even if it actually happened. Have you heard of lying?
On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote:
Also it's dumb because you are apparently being purposely confusing because you think you can direct mafia night actions when you should just try lynch mafia.
1) I am not being purposely confusing at all.
2) I don't merely "think" I can influence Mafia Night Actions. I've done it more times than I could count.
3) You are not really going to sit there and tell me that your poor wittle brain cannot figure out the concept of Town players withholding information. Do only Mafia players refuse to share their thoughts with the rest of the players, Breshke?
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Reading Scott's filter was fun btw, as relates to me. He seems to mention again every couple of posts that he feels I should be the lynch, but has never once articulated why. The closest thing you ever get from him to a "case" on his lynch target is that he thinks my posts are "bad." That's all you get. He then randomly places his vote on me, without explanation. In fact, the post where he votes against me is exclusively about other players. There is nothing at all in it that is about me, except for the unexplained vote.
Later we get "D1 lynches right now are GB and N00bking and voting n00bking" but still no explanation (not even a half-assed one) for how it would make any sense to make n00bKing the Day 1 lynch.
And then "I want GB or n00bking lynches though." Still no explanation for why he might want a n00bKing lynch.
And then "Who are your top three scumteam? Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy" and yet again, still not even an ATTEMPT to tell anyone why he might think n00bKing could be on the scum team.
But best of all is this list:
On September 06 2015 03:14 scott31337 wrote:
MoosyDoosy - town, wants to solve game
n00bKing - mafia -
CoughingHydra - null - even posted?
CopCake - slight townlean trying to solve
Alakaslam - really posty - tinfoil like Breshke - actually want to win or change it up?
Fidei86 - null - posts?
scott31337 - town
Superbia - a little townlean from what I read earlier started well died off
GlowingBear - OMGUS smoking crack voting me - mafia lean - not interested in solving
boxerfred - no posts?
yamato77 - townlean - doing his yamato town "meta"
Breshke - townlean - but posting wayyy too much - laid off or changing it up - townlean not D1 lynch
raynpelikoneet - town hero as usual - <3
All 13 players are there. And there are only TWO of them that he has no notes for. One is himself. It just says "town." He has no notes on that player. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. And that makes sense. If he wants us to think he's playing from a Town perspective, then that one word is all he needs to have on that player. The other person he has one word and NO notes for is THE PLAYER HE'S VOTING AGAINST. No notes. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. Just parks his vote there and then proceeds to talk in detail about anything and everything BUT his lynch target. That's the one thing that always just gets glossed over quickly, and that you never get any detail about.
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Somehow, my re-reading made me more excited to lynch boxerfred, even though he hasn't said anything. There might be more to be learned from lynching him than you would normally get by seeing the flip of a purely afk player. But I obviously still would not fight a lynch on CopCake or Scott either.
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On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote:
Bolded infers hydra had no previous games to base conclusions off of therefore first game.
Disagree.
On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote:
So GB asked you to clarify something so he was obviously confused.
Someone getting confused doesn't mean I was being confusing. And especially doesn't mean I was purposely being confusing, which is what I was accused of.
On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote:
You arn't just withholding information though, you did something that doesn't add up you "fake" voted rayn and GB asked you to explain and you just cop out by saying "oh i cant explain right now im tricking mafia sa hard h3h3."
...that would add up. I also didn't say I was tricking Mafia at all. But I could be.
On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote:
However right now if i look at this from your point of view you are arguing with me (who you don't want to lynch today) about something from your point of view is totally stupid because "you know what you are doing you have done it heaps of times". and you havn't even tried tot alk to me about copcake or scott who are two of your lynch candidates that I don't want to lynch today.
lol, would you like me to change my mind about lynching you today?
Anyway, no, I have made no special effort to talk TO YOU about Copcake or Scott. I've talked to EVERYONE about Copcake AND Scott. Now,
Why would you not want to lynch Copcake today, Breshke?
Why would you not want to lynch Scott today, Breshke?
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On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Adentro (?), yo - ah, insult?- su Ingles. Lo siento. Por favor, recordar yo es estudiante de Español que no sa- be o ve- bien. Y escuchar malo XD
Entonces, primera la enojarsas possible diga me mejor accento en voice mafia, porque mi accento es MUY gringo...
I am not a fluent Spanish speaker, for purposes of face-to-face conversation. I can't follow the spoken word quickly enough. But I can translate written Spanish just fine, and I can assure the other players that what you've written here is benign.
But surely, non-English communication between players is not allowed in these games? If no one is able to (or goes to the trouble of) translating what is said, it is no different than if Alakaslam had sent CopCake a private message. So I can't think of any way that this isn't a definite no-no.
On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:
English second language sir. I think some meaning is being lost in missing words here and there.
Sure. I was able to identify CopCake as not being a native English speaker, within her first 4 posts. I admit that there could be something of a language barrier here, and I also admit that in the many Mafia-by-Forum games I've played over the years, the overwhelming majority of the players in those games were American.
On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:
I don't read CopCake as scum at all thus far. She strikes me as frustrated but also kind of relying on Rayn as he is a good communicator who is also ESL. so, when Rayn largely disagrees with you and is being his usual bull-headed self, she strikes you as unreasonable to the point of suspicion.
I hope you realize you are not only speaking to me here, as there are multiple CopCake-voters in the game. Will I try to emulate the stupid shit rayn says, talking about how he's 98% sure of a scumread on someone during Day 1, and then upgrades it to 99% later in the same Phase? No. I, and the other CopCake voters, could be wrong about her. But even in the exchanges where she and the person she's talking with are each entirely certain of what the other is saying...I still don't like what she's saying.
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On September 06 2015 16:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Huh.
[b]AS I WILL BE WHOLLY BUSY TOMORROW, I MUST PARK MY VOTE. GLOWINGBEAR GETS JT FOR LACK OF BETTER TARGWT.
Since you're Townleaning CopCake, Boxerfred is better targwt. :D In fact, almost anyone is better targwt than GB.
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On September 06 2015 23:42 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 14:09 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 03:02 scott31337 wrote:
Moosy trying to solve the game - unlike his mafia games - townlean What Mafia games? I thought he was mafia one of his games, am I mistaken?
Yes.
On September 06 2015 23:42 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 14:09 n00bKing wrote:And since you've made several posts since then, but never addressed it, I'll bring this back up: On September 06 2015 07:37 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 07:32 scott31337 wrote:On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. Confirmed not reading the thread. Okay, where did someone raise that possibility? Because he was replaced.
No shit. Maybe that's why I mentioned "his exit from the game."
Seems to me that both of the above make you the one not paying attention.
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On September 07 2015 00:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Please, SSON. What pleasure you derive from this must be shallow.
Oh, but the shallow pleasures are some of my very favorites. 
On September 07 2015 00:24 Alakaslam wrote:
GlowingBear is a better target only due to his having done actual things that are scummy. Those votes don't make any town sense to me.
Sorry to hear you say that, as I think it is Scum-indicative for you.
To those discussing an Alakaslam lynch, I still don't think he's the best target FOR DAY ONE, despite behavior that doesn't seem to be helpful, and a vote that is especially unhelpful. If he continues to talk this much, and continues to be unhelpful, and continues to end up with his votes in places where they shouldn't be, then it should be easy enough to get him/put him in a Noose later.
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On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote:
By the way, whoever you are, "noobking", I think you forget I am the self claimed worst and most disinterested player on this site.
I'm sure you fit right in then. The forum should be renamed "Disinterested Mafia."
On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Reevaluate because you are giving yamato's burn a lot of weight.
What burn do you mean?
On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Why are you pushing a policy on boxer?
Remarks about him made by other players lead me to believe that we can garner more information through his lynching than what you would normally get from seeing the flip of a player who isn't participating. Seeing him flip as either allegiance yields information we can use, and if the flip is Green, we know we aren't likely losing a player that would help us unravel the mystery anyway.
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On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
Yeah, I can't say that after he showed up, I was less inclined to lynch him than before he showed up.
On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
I don't think anyone would have an easy time countering that. Can't figure how my play is supposed to have benefited a Mafia team, were I on one.
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On September 07 2015 01:40 Fidei86 wrote:
@n00bking
What the hell are you talking about? Information on a BF lynch? The dude has made like two posts, and the only people who have said anything are Scott and Cake.
Wow, and those are even PRECISELY the two players I might consider lynching ahead of Boxerfred, and would most like information on. What's not to understand?
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Fellow CopCake voters: Assuming we can't get that lynch accomplished, what are thoughts on joining GB against Scott? I certainly won't cry if Scott is lynched today, but I feel that I may like the Boxerfred lynch better. Moosy around today?
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On September 07 2015 02:41 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really like Scott or copcake lynches from what I've read.
Any interest in helping anyone figure out who the lynch *should* be, then? Impressions of boxerfred's posts today?
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On September 07 2015 02:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I just think this argument is bad. I think BF is scummy based on his play so far. But if you're going to vote him for information, that makes me want to rethink.
To me what you're saying sounds like the opposite of logic. If a bunch of players are all using the same excuse to pile their votes onto someone, they could all be making the same simple mistake in reasoning. The more DIFFERENT reasons people want to lynch a guy, the better the chance there is that the lynch benefits the Town. So if you don't think I'm a good lynch, and if you (presumably) don't think YOU are a good lynch, and we're both interested in lynching the same player, but for different reasons, that's a GOOD thing.
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On September 07 2015 05:00 CopCake wrote:
Btw I don't like to lynch "lurkers" but people who act scummy @gb
Weird how you accidentally have your vote on me, then, instead of someone who might actually be Scum.
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I'd stomp a hole through a case against me. If anyone were to like...try and make one. But I won't hold my breath for that.
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On September 07 2015 05:05 CopCake wrote:
noobking, moosy and gb.
Yeah, THE WORST three possible lynches. We know.
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On September 07 2015 05:04 CopCake wrote:
I think you are scum tho, so?
And what would ever make you think something like that?
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On September 07 2015 05:12 yamato77 wrote:
noobking you're making it difficult to move the lynch off you by hard townreading the other two people I find compellingly scummy
I'm townreading NocturneMage too, if you want to say that he's scummy as well.
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On September 07 2015 05:15 CopCake wrote:
But there is something about noobking that bothers me:
He says I am mafia because I have his two townreads in my scum list and because we don't have a scum read in common
like
REAAALLLLYYYYY
I guess CopCake never gets tired of telling the same lie over and over. I've corrected you on this EXACT point already. There are multiple other reasons for why you're being Scumread, which have been listed by myself and by other players too. But YEAH, for you to have as your Top 3 Scum suspects the 2 players whose thinking has MOST aligned with my own (when my thinking is strictly from a Town perspective) and me (when I am Town), makes it basically impossible to trust you. At all. Even without all of the other evidence working against you (which still exists).
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