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@n00bking
What the hell are you talking about? Information on a BF lynch? The dude has made like two posts, and the only people who have said anything are Scott and Cake. This is just such a bad argument, I don't even know where to begin. I was pretty sure you're town, but you keep digging yourself deeper and it's getting harder and harder to keep town reading you.
All that sort of contradicts with my view that we should lynch BF. Policy and posting are two totally valid reasons to lynch him imo. "Information" just isn't.
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On September 07 2015 01:38 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
So we've got two wagons that I think are probably town, and BF is happy with both? I think we'd be better off lynching BF. You do realize I've read until 17 only and didn't vote, right? I answered a question that was raised towards me. Tryhard?
I always try hard.
I don't buy your explanation though. n00b has been playing the same the whole way through. I really have issues with it, but whatever else it is it really isn't lacking specificity.
I think you're Mafia. I think you're hedging on the two lynch wagons so you can jump on whichever later and look good in the process. I think town finds the time over the last day and a half to actually read the thread (page 17 is what, 7 pages of game filter?).
I need to come out of posting view now to see which questions you're talking about, because if they're after p17 then that only makes me more skeptical.
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Okay, so it looks like the question was raised a while back. So maybe I pushed that too far. Hmm. Moosy wasn't following up on that question at all, so scum BF could have easily ignored it. That said, his answer is so lacklustre, it could easily be scummy as well.
I definitely think you're a better vote than Cop or n00b though.
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On September 07 2015 01:46 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 01:38 boxerfred wrote:On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
So we've got two wagons that I think are probably town, and BF is happy with both? I think we'd be better off lynching BF. You do realize I've read until 17 only and didn't vote, right? I answered a question that was raised towards me. Tryhard? I always try hard. I don't buy your explanation though. n00b has been playing the same the whole way through. I really have issues with it, but whatever else it is it really isn't lacking specificity. I think you're Mafia. I think you're hedging on the two lynch wagons so you can jump on whichever later and look good in the process. I think town finds the time over the last day and a half to actually read the thread (page 17 is what, 7 pages of game filter?). I need to come out of posting view now to see which questions you're talking about, because if they're after p17 then that only makes me more skeptical.
You come to that conclusion after 2 posts that I made?
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Can someone explain to me what's the case on Cake?
I've just read her filter and I saw nothing wrong. In fact, some posts looks really townie, like the early ones. Her posts are fluid and directly to the point. Her reads have a clear progression. Also, she has 4 pages of filter on day1.
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On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
So we've got two wagons that I think are probably town, and BF is happy with both? I think we'd be better off lynching BF.
Erm also I want to clarify: I'm not happy with a Cake lynch. How do you come to this? I clearly say that I don't give a scum lean!
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I'm voting scott. I don't see a better lynch than him.
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On September 07 2015 02:06 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
So we've got two wagons that I think are probably town, and BF is happy with both? I think we'd be better off lynching BF. Erm also I want to clarify: I'm not happy with a Cake lynch. How do you come to this? I clearly say that I don't give a scum lean!
Yeah, but your arguments on her all suggested that you thought her play was scummy. That's another thing that bothered me, it's like you lost four reasons why her filter is bad, then say "maybe not a scum lean". That's about as weak and unhelpful as a read can be, and it also doesn't fit with what you said about her before.
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On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons.
Yeah, I can't say that after he showed up, I was less inclined to lynch him than before he showed up.
On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote:
His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective.
I don't think anyone would have an easy time countering that. Can't figure how my play is supposed to have benefited a Mafia team, were I on one.
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On September 07 2015 01:40 Fidei86 wrote:
@n00bking
What the hell are you talking about? Information on a BF lynch? The dude has made like two posts, and the only people who have said anything are Scott and Cake.
Wow, and those are even PRECISELY the two players I might consider lynching ahead of Boxerfred, and would most like information on. What's not to understand?
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Fellow CopCake voters: Assuming we can't get that lynch accomplished, what are thoughts on joining GB against Scott? I certainly won't cry if Scott is lynched today, but I feel that I may like the Boxerfred lynch better. Moosy around today?
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I don't really like Scott or copcake lynches from what I've read.
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Okay, sorry, I'm getting a bit rude here. Apologise.
It's trite that associative stuff d1 is very meh. What, so if BF flips Mafia cake is Mafia for saying I was scummier than BF before we both started? Or is Scott Mafia for scum reading him?
I just think this argument is bad. I think BF is scummy based on his play so far. But if you're going to vote him for information, that makes me want to rethink.
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On September 07 2015 02:41 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really like Scott or copcake lynches from what I've read.
Any interest in helping anyone figure out who the lynch *should* be, then? Impressions of boxerfred's posts today?
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I am here now, you might ask all you want.
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Day 1 Votecount
n00bking (4): Raynpelikoneet, scott31337, yamato77, CopCake
copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, noctournemage
Alakaslam (1): Breshke
GlowingBear (1): Alakaslam
scott310337 (1): GlowingBear
Not Voting (3):
Fidei86
Superbia
boxerfred
Currently, n00bking is fixin' to be jettisoned out the gorram cargo bay with 4 votes in . Please do not forget to vote.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread
Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted.
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Guys is GlowingBear usually this disinterested as town? I've been town with him once, and he was literally in the middle of every single shit-fight there was. This time, he doesn't really seem to care. It's weird.
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On September 07 2015 02:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I just think this argument is bad. I think BF is scummy based on his play so far. But if you're going to vote him for information, that makes me want to rethink.
To me what you're saying sounds like the opposite of logic. If a bunch of players are all using the same excuse to pile their votes onto someone, they could all be making the same simple mistake in reasoning. The more DIFFERENT reasons people want to lynch a guy, the better the chance there is that the lynch benefits the Town. So if you don't think I'm a good lynch, and if you (presumably) don't think YOU are a good lynch, and we're both interested in lynching the same player, but for different reasons, that's a GOOD thing.
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You're right, of course. Except that I'm not 100% sold on the BF lynch, and I really don't agree with your reasons for pushing him. So that makes me more suspicious of you, and less suspicious of him. It's giving me pause, is what I'm trying to say.
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