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On September 06 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier? Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum. Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally: - happy slam is town - sad slam is mafia ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this: On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said? basically slam said that u were suspecting him but was pushing n00bKing more: On September 05 2015 13:51 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
FITE ME PERFECT COME TO YOUR DOOM ![[image loading]](http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-421228bc485b3054b4ba9a717ca309eb?convert_to_webp=true) The old man will win He looks pretty young to me. There is a bear in the cage. Just FYI Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you. It looked like a pressure vote. Rayn was genuinely suspicious of me because of meta. On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
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Im kinda getting confused here.
Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him
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Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world. It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob But he actually was pushing me a lot He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread. looking thru ur filter that looked to be the case, altho u did drop suspicion on slam rather quickly in this post. On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh....... but ur response makes sense because i tone read slam as happy and mafia people are mostly sad so i don't think this is important. in the quote where i said slam was town, breshke/n00bking were saying that slam was stating that rayn was using him to catch lazy mafia. but as both of u said, ur suspicion on slam was real, so what both of them were saying was false. agreeing with breshke/n00bking would have been the easy way out as he was coming off as town read from the interaction anyway, but he actually stuck to his story. -shrugs- the reasoning is a bit convoluted but it works out if u look at it in context. either way, slam is town from both tone reads and thread proof. I know the bolded part is true but i disagree with the fact that Slam would do that (is that what you mean?). He 100% knows where my suspicion on him came from. yes, but i think this post made them think u read slam as town and was looking to catch a lazy mafia: On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh....... which is false because u did genuinely suspect slam. and slam stuck to his story rather than using what breshke/n00bking thought as a way to cop-out which i liked. I don't think you get what i mean. If Slam takes the cop-out as mafia he knows it will make me see theat he is bullshitting and then he will get lynched. Other people might not know how i read Slam but Slam KNOWS how i read him so he cannot do anything else than to "stick with his story (truth)", otherwise he gives himself away to me.
Bah Rayn
Give up this pure meta bullshit or I actually will push you as scum. I did not ignore you, yet you claim I did.
If you continue, know that people who don't have our meta biases will see it as very damning for you to use me as your D1 with so little basis. YOU KNOW this is not poor play for me, and it isn't unusual either. As this is not a lazy town, they will find it.
So back off. Because f you ARE town, we need you and Yamato to both be good so that we still have one of you the next day.
Or tunnel me, it is a shit tunnel though because you won't learn anything
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On September 06 2015 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:- because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't.- his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained. There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game. Read my filter, it's all there.
Dude Rayn I'm gonna mug you and when you try to stop me I will say you don't trust me
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Sorry folks, another newbie question as I read through -
DMA/dick move analysis is?
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I don't like superbia's questioning, it feels like an attempt to look useful but not really be, notch down.
I like nocturne thought process unlike last game, a townlean for now.
Stupid autocrat
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Okay shit gets interesting.
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On September 06 2015 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'm voting noobking.
If I see one more like this umma vote GB. Guy can't think for himself this game:
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On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game.
Confirmed not reading the thread.
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On September 06 2015 07:31 Alakaslam wrote:If I see one more like this umma vote GB. Guy can't think for himself this game:
And you cant answer simple questions.
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On September 06 2015 05:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:Slam if you're around it would help if you would clarify this: Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 23:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Moist could be marshy, if I am actually hitting the nail on the head.
Which would explain things, and would make him (probably?) town ? I'm guessing I am the "Moist" you are referring to here? I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "marshy" as well.
Lol
I was tinfoiling you and noobking as being from smashboards. I thought you were Marshy (a moderator, akin to say The_Templar here) and Potassium (one of their more self-aggrandize type players)
Don't worry about it.
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On September 06 2015 06:59 NocturneMage wrote:
Going through Copcake's filter as one of the issues requested - some leans I see from both alignments.
mafia - the reads on glowingbear make zero sense. First she asks him how is rayn mafia then there's zero to little follow up on gb until her list post. But there her read still doesn't make sense - if gb doesn't care whether he dies or not shouldn't that make him town? the mafia need to try and survive, at least that's what gb (lol) told me in the mafia qt from my last newbie game. Anyways, also expanding on the useless details might help here - because I saw where he returned a rebuttal on rayn's read on breshke - didn't think that was useless for example.
- also post 611 on moosydoosy - if moosydoosy is paying too much attention to her isn't that a towntell if he's pushing her? Or at least not alignment if he has to defend himself? I read around that post and I don't see how moosy is being "antagonistic".
- read on slam - alright I don't know either of her or slam so I will ignore meta. But to say that slam is town for not being antagonistic like moosy or n00bking - this is not exclusive to mafia, I just got done finishing observing the personality game and Mr. Nice Guy in Judge Judy carried mafia.
Basically this read is a bad reason to read Slam town, I am finding most of his posting nonsensical at best but for the reasons you specified it's a poor reason
Those are scumtells, admittedly your read on moosy and you pushing him is a town action, so I'm going to say a null to scum lean on you for now.
Also since you mentioned it what do you mean by pocketing? I'm sure I've heard it in my only other game but I forget the meanting now.
Town.
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So far my scumreads are copcake and n00bking. So far. I have to bail in less than an hour but will get out what I can.
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On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something.
boxerfred and Fidei both had pop-in and pop-out posts citing they were busy or RL or whatever, so what's your defence for Fidei?
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On September 06 2015 07:32 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. Confirmed not reading the thread.
Okay, where did someone raise that possibility?
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On September 06 2015 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:On September 06 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
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Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read
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Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.
I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
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He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.
If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.
That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone
##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia? Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense. Slam, i still want you to answer this. This post: + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.  On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.
I don't see why you would say this:
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He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?
Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia? Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense. I can't see that world. If noob was scum with bresh he would not defend me, he would vote me. Or he would tell bresh to stfu ... does not really answer anything. Basically you are saying that "rayn went -BAM, votes for n00bking. That threw Breshke off". Now if you assume Breske is mafia for that -> trying to find a different target because he got "thrown off" that has to mean n00bking is mafia, because otherwise there is no reason for Breshke to be "thrown off". Like your argument is "Breshke is mafia because he got thrown off for rayn suddenly voting for a townie". It makes literally no sense. You are completely capable of pushing two town as town. can you jsut answer the fucking question?
Su pregunta es Claro a mi Español. Igual que estudiante de 1 año clase primera
That^^ is basically how I see your question if I haven't answered it. You bring some preconceived notion otherwise.
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On September 06 2015 05:37 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:32 NocturneMage wrote:On September 06 2015 05:05 Superbia wrote:
Also hi replacement. Hey everyone. Just started reading. If there is anything in particular I should pay attention to as I catch up, give me a shout. Also RL related - I work in the ER so if I'm at work overnight and something pops up, I will be forced to suddenly disappear from the game. The coming week should not be too crazy hopefully. 1. Look at opening posts. 2. Look at rayn/yamato interaction. 3. GB (fake) claim. 4. Look at rayn/noobking interaction. Following people: - noobking - copcake - slam Comments on them in near future pls.
Superbia town
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On September 06 2015 06:03 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote: n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am.
Care to drop some site suggestions?
Not that I care or am able to live up to the intense standards of smashboards let alone thy God sites, but...
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On September 06 2015 07:37 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something. boxerfred and Fidei both had pop-in and pop-out posts citing they were busy or RL or whatever, so what's your defence for Fidei?
Based on what I've seen, if boxerfred continued to be non-participatory, it wouldn't be anything unusual. That's not the case for Fidei. I would expect adequate participation from him over the course of the game, even if not today (and by "today" I mean Saturday, not Day 1). So Fidei gets a longer leash, and is a less desirable "lurker lynch" target than boxerfred.
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Hi.
I was rejected
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Hey noobking, what do you think of people who don't like moose's post about the bet stuff?
also to answer that other person:
pocketing = saying someone is super good and stuff to win their trust.
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On September 06 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:Hi. I was rejected
the hell is this?
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