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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 21:54 GMT
#761
On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like

"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"

Nope, I am town.

If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.

ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.


You are doing bets.

Who the fuck of town does bets?

You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.

Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.

YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS

WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?

MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 21:56 GMT
#762
On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like

"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"

Nope, I am town.

If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.

ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.


You are doing bets.

Who the fuck of town does bets?

You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.

Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.

YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS

WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?


you clearly. but im actually waiting for NocturneMage to finish his reads and get his opinion on the matter.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2015 21:56 GMT
#763
All right. I'm off to sleep for now. Final answers tomorrow.
Minimal effort.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 05 2015 21:59 GMT
#764
Going through Copcake's filter as one of the issues requested - some leans I see from both alignments.

mafia - the reads on glowingbear make zero sense. First she asks him how is rayn mafia then there's zero to little follow up on gb until her list post. But there her read still doesn't make sense - if gb doesn't care whether he dies or not shouldn't that make him town? the mafia need to try and survive, at least that's what gb (lol) told me in the mafia qt from my last newbie game. Anyways, also expanding on the useless details might help here - because I saw where he returned a rebuttal on rayn's read on breshke - didn't think that was useless for example.

- also post 611 on moosydoosy - if moosydoosy is paying too much attention to her isn't that a towntell if he's pushing her? Or at least not alignment if he has to defend himself? I read around that post and I don't see how moosy is being "antagonistic".

- read on slam - alright I don't know either of her or slam so I will ignore meta. But to say that slam is town for not being antagonistic like moosy or n00bking - this is not exclusive to mafia, I just got done finishing observing the personality game and Mr. Nice Guy in Judge Judy carried mafia.

Basically this read is a bad reason to read Slam town, I am finding most of his posting nonsensical at best but for the reasons you specified it's a poor reason

Those are scumtells, admittedly your read on moosy and you pushing him is a town action, so I'm going to say a null to scum lean on you for now.

Also since you mentioned it what do you mean by pocketing? I'm sure I've heard it in my only other game but I forget the meanting now.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 22:00 GMT
#765
On September 06 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like

"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"

Nope, I am town.

If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.

ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.


You are doing bets.

Who the fuck of town does bets?

You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.

Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.

YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS

WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?


you clearly. but im actually waiting for NocturneMage to finish his reads and get his opinion on the matter.

She's right.
Your post was absolutely horrible.
table for two on a tv tray
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 22:02 GMT
#766
On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.

GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game.


You haven't obs enough glowing bear games, don't worry about it, one day you will understand.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 22:09 GMT
#767
Also I don't like how noobking was like

"mafia should put a lot of effort"

dude, mafia can hide and inactifag if there is v/v violence, so don't tell me that putting effort is only a mafia thing to do.

this is the second time you are doing a general "how people play mafia rules" you have said this game.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#768
so noobking care to explain the thing you were doing early game to get reads? Because I don't really see what reads it got you at this point
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#769
On September 06 2015 06:38 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.

GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game.

Seeing as you don't have a townread of scott, and that it appears to be because he doesn't like GB's posting while you do, what GB posts do you happen to agree with?

It isn't just bad that Scott doesn't like GB's posting, it's also bad that he's misreading ME at the same time.

As far as some good posts from GB, this one says exactly what it ought to:

+ Show Spoiler +
This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening.

I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you.

Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game

I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME

Yamato is town because he had a happy opening.

Everything you're saying here is bullshit


Shows willingness to discuss possibilities that go against his initial impressions:

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, rayn. I'll assume you're town for a bit.

Why is slam mafia?


Says this to rayn, and it again is accurate, on the parts that relate to GB and the parts that relate to Breshke AND the parts that relate to you (yamato).

+ Show Spoiler +
Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


I felt the same way as this post:

+ Show Spoiler +
argh scott again has got a bad post and did nothing right after...


He asked me for my opinions on Slam and Moosy, and when I didn't react right away, he followed up to raise the questions to me again. Scum players do not historically do this to me.

I agreed with him when he said to Slam that rayn's posts about Slam and vote against me did not represent "dissonance." I again feel the same way.

This, too, I agreed with (and said so in-thread):

+ Show Spoiler +
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.


He said this to Alakaslam, regarding Breshke (and I agreed with this assessment, and said so in-thread):

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie.
If he never voted you, would you be reading him as town?


He would later name Scott as the "scummiest lurker" which is what I thought too, at the time. I just felt that CopCake was even scummier than the scummiest lurker. But both CopCake and Scott are trying to scumread GB (one of my better Townreads at the moment) and myself (who I know is Town). CopCake is also trying to scumread Moosy (another one of my top Townreads at the moment) and does not seem to be suspicious of ANYONE that I think has been suspicious, as her 4th choice was Fidei, who practically has to be null in anyone's book.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 22:12 GMT
#770
Noobking

are you...

seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read?

scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 22:12 GMT
#771
On September 06 2015 06:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ok, I could tackle your post about me but i'll just say one thing here.

when i asked glowingbear about his opinion on scott, he had said that scott's reads made sense in the post directly before. but glowingbear on scott's directly previous post had said he had made a shit post. so i was looking to catch GB in a trap. if he had said scott looked townie then he was almost certainly mafia in my eyes. instead, he said that he still had him as null/scum for previous shit posts.

so GB effectively avoided the trap which prompted my 'mmm...ok' response. he had responded in the best possible way which made me townread him.

on the other hand when i try to prompt u (copcake) to help us out, all u seem to want to do is rage at me even though i'm completely willing to listen to other's opinions on you and i am in fact actively searching for such opinions. this can only make me A. hurt and B. suspicious that you're getting so angry over really nothing. even now u seem to be unable to see the traps and the ulterior motives behind my seemingly pointless questions which just makes me more suspicious.

HOWEVER, the only reason why i am not pressing on you too hard right now is because both rayn/yamato in my townie circle seem to think ur town.


I like the logic and thought here, but GB is actually pretty good at not falling for bat traps tm.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#772
On September 06 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game.

I think that this is irrelevant and you should focus on finding Mafia m8.

As always, I will remind you that I can continue to find Mafia whilst also doing anything and everything else that I feel like.

It's not irrelevant. Players are reacting to Hydra's exit on the basis that he's a player who has participated in 0-1 games here before. If it's a Smurf account instead, that would (rightly) alter their reactions.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:19 GMT
#773
On September 06 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.

GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game.


You haven't obs enough glowing bear games, don't worry about it, one day you will understand.

I have never seen GlowingBear play before now.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 05 2015 22:20 GMT
#774
On September 06 2015 02:25 CopCake wrote:
Also my gender doesn't matter.

ANDDDDDDDDDDD

Lol moosy being like

what do you think of cake and noobking?

then when someone talks about other two people in the next two psots he is like

what do you think of gb and alakazam?

seriously are you just going to spend the whole game asking for other people reads and don't make your own but like attack me for shitty silly stuff you are also doing?

LOL ok.

It matters a little if people think they can psychoanalyst. + Show Spoiler +
none of us have that kind of prowess- or we should be curing psychopaths and turning jails around, not playing mafia


But I digress. Catching up again
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:20 GMT
#775
On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like

"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"

Nope, I am town.

If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.

ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.


You are doing bets.

Who the fuck of town does bets?

You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.

Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.

YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS

WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?

I don't even know what you're talking about, in half of this post. But I do agree with Moosy's answer to the question at the end. He should be lynching you.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 22:20 GMT
#776
On September 06 2015 07:12 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ok, I could tackle your post about me but i'll just say one thing here.

when i asked glowingbear about his opinion on scott, he had said that scott's reads made sense in the post directly before. but glowingbear on scott's directly previous post had said he had made a shit post. so i was looking to catch GB in a trap. if he had said scott looked townie then he was almost certainly mafia in my eyes. instead, he said that he still had him as null/scum for previous shit posts.

so GB effectively avoided the trap which prompted my 'mmm...ok' response. he had responded in the best possible way which made me townread him.

on the other hand when i try to prompt u (copcake) to help us out, all u seem to want to do is rage at me even though i'm completely willing to listen to other's opinions on you and i am in fact actively searching for such opinions. this can only make me A. hurt and B. suspicious that you're getting so angry over really nothing. even now u seem to be unable to see the traps and the ulterior motives behind my seemingly pointless questions which just makes me more suspicious.

HOWEVER, the only reason why i am not pressing on you too hard right now is because both rayn/yamato in my townie circle seem to think ur town.


I like the logic and thought here, but GB is actually pretty good at not falling for bat traps tm.

ugh can we not bring up bat traps. it makes me feel insecure about my own traps after that misguided lynch D1.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:22 GMT
#777
On September 06 2015 07:10 Breshke wrote:
so noobking care to explain the thing you were doing early game to get reads? Because I don't really see what reads it got you at this point

lol, if you don't know what I was doing, then you can't be surprised that you can't see the results.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 22:24 GMT
#778
On September 06 2015 07:12 CopCake wrote:
Noobking

are you...

seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read?

Among other things, that I have already said previously.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 05 2015 22:24 GMT
#779
Reading n00bking right now. Not liking what I see so far. I know he ranted about skill level of the site in the newbie I played and the one before that so I am ignoring that. But 278, 311 and 329, those posts I really don't like. 329, he's pushing rayn on semantics, doesn't have to be a case, all that matters is that he's calling rayn's points bullshit.

278 talking about rayn's illogical conclusions - again like I said about rayn earlier, I thought rayn's thought processes was pretty clear and straightforward from the beginning, I think his stumbling around with his words might appear to be the result of him being a non-native speaker. 311 lacks a read on moosy who is making the quoted comment himself on copcake. I would have expected him to push moosy for the read there.

I remember reading n00bking from newbie 12 (not the one I was in, since we were mafia together that game) and his detail on some of his scum reads was way more detailed in that game than this. This game feels closer to what he was when he was my scummate.

I continue...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 22:24 GMT
#780
On September 06 2015 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like

"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"

Nope, I am town.

If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.

ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.


You are doing bets.

Who the fuck of town does bets?

You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.

Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.

YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS

WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?


you clearly. but im actually waiting for NocturneMage to finish his reads and get his opinion on the matter.

She's right.
Your post was absolutely horrible.

im sorry, but i think ur too intent on reading copcake as town. i might be too intent on reading n00bKing as town too, but I'm pretty sure about this.
##Vote: CopCake
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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