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On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy?
Moosy appears to be Town so far. He's done one thing that I am not sure he would have found the nerve to do if he were Scum and knew that I am Town. I also think his suspicions of CopCake were well-founded (and this is even assuming that we disregard the "pocketing" attempt that Moosy flipped his lid about. I would disregard that incident, and I would be suspicious of CopCake anyway.)
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On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?
I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something.
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On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.
GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game.
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On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote + n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black
Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am.
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On September 06 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:43 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy? Moosy appears to be Town so far. He's done one thing that I am not sure he would have found the nerve to do if he were Scum and knew that I am Town. I also think his suspicions of CopCake were well-founded (and this is even assuming that we disregard the "pocketing" attempt that Moosy flipped his lid about. I would disregard that incident, and I would be suspicious of CopCake anyway.) Now this is a funny thing to say from a guy who thinks i am mafia for having meta-reads.
That wasn't a meta-read though, at least not in the sense that most people seem to use the term here. It was not based on any of his behavior from other games. And I most definitely have never said that I think you're Mafia, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.
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On September 06 2015 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:03 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote: n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am. stop bitching. this is the site with the most quality mafia games on the internet. why is cake mafia?
Most games, maybe, which is why I came here. Because the places I like to play don't have games as frequently. But there's no quality here.
Cake is suspicious because her vote against me comes in an obvious pile-on position for Scum that is looking for a safe place to land. She continually says things about Moosy that are not true, and projects onto him her own scummy behaviors, as though she's watching a mirror instead of watching him. She is also overly defensive in situations that don't call for it. Which is not always a Scum trait, but is seen from Scum more often than from Town, in my experience. GlowingBear and Scott (mostly GB) have cited specific posts from CopCake that are suspicious, and I had similar findings.
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On September 06 2015 06:09 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:03 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote: n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am. What's this about dude? What's your reason for saying this site is filled with bad mafia players (essentially)? Is it because you're being read mafia?
Not at all. I don't think the players who are mistakenly reading me as Mafia in this game are playing any worse than I've come to expect around here. I would have gladly made the above post before this game started. Like it says, it only took until my 2nd game here to realize that the players here are on a lower level than I'm used to, and that they don't really seem to care about ever getting better, either. In the games I play, players hold things over each other's heads from games that happened YEARS ago. Bragging rights are real, and you don't want to be the one who gets embarrassed, because you won't be allowed to forget about it. Here, people don't even care whether they win or lose (or whether they even finish the fucking game, or just up and stop playing), much less about their reputation.
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On September 06 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:
scott31337: Town so far.
Because of what?
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On September 06 2015 06:16 CopCake wrote:
moose, noobking, glowing bear, fidel are the ones to watch out.
The replacement too.
Yeah, could not really disagree more. Moosy and GlowingBear are probably the two players I have the most reason to townread at this point.
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On September 06 2015 06:18 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something. lol you're getting lynched today how do you feel?
I very seriously doubt I am getting lynched today. Never once in my entire Mafia career have I been the Day 1 lynch.
Ever.
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On September 06 2015 06:26 yamato77 wrote:
post something MEANINGFUL
lol, what more do you think you would ask of me?
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On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:
Your reputation is fast becoming one of a whiny little bitch who is mad he's going to get lynched
Again, I do NOT expect to be lynched.
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On September 06 2015 06:38 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people. This honestly looks like you know that noobking is town.
Yeah. And why shouldn't he?
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On September 06 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:On September 06 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people. I kind of hate this. I also do fwiw seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game. Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well.
Nothing will ever happen in a game of Mafia that hurts my ego. I promise. 
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On September 06 2015 06:41 CopCake wrote:To answer noobking this kind of posts are effort.
So? The game requires more effort from Scum than it does from Town. Anyone who doesn't work harder in their Scum games than they do in their Town games is doing their scummates a disservice.
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I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game.
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On September 06 2015 06:50 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 06:41 CopCake wrote:To answer noobking this kind of posts are effort. So? The game requires more effort from Scum than it does from Town. Anyone who doesn't work harder in their Scum games than they do in their Town games is doing their scummates a disservice. Are you going to answer any of my read-relevant questions or just post more of these kinds of posts?
Do you have some sort of a problem with "that sort of post?" That post is worthwhile.
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On September 06 2015 06:38 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction. GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game. Seeing as you don't have a townread of scott, and that it appears to be because he doesn't like GB's posting while you do, what GB posts do you happen to agree with?
It isn't just bad that Scott doesn't like GB's posting, it's also bad that he's misreading ME at the same time.
As far as some good posts from GB, this one says exactly what it ought to:
+ Show Spoiler +This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening.
I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you.
Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game
I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME
Yamato is town because he had a happy opening.
Everything you're saying here is bullshit
Shows willingness to discuss possibilities that go against his initial impressions:
+ Show Spoiler +Ok, rayn. I'll assume you're town for a bit.
Why is slam mafia?
Says this to rayn, and it again is accurate, on the parts that relate to GB and the parts that relate to Breshke AND the parts that relate to you (yamato).
+ Show Spoiler +Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.
I felt the same way as this post:
+ Show Spoiler +argh scott again has got a bad post and did nothing right after...
He asked me for my opinions on Slam and Moosy, and when I didn't react right away, he followed up to raise the questions to me again. Scum players do not historically do this to me.
I agreed with him when he said to Slam that rayn's posts about Slam and vote against me did not represent "dissonance." I again feel the same way.
This, too, I agreed with (and said so in-thread):
+ Show Spoiler +Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.
He said this to Alakaslam, regarding Breshke (and I agreed with this assessment, and said so in-thread):
+ Show Spoiler +Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie.
If he never voted you, would you be reading him as town?
He would later name Scott as the "scummiest lurker" which is what I thought too, at the time. I just felt that CopCake was even scummier than the scummiest lurker. But both CopCake and Scott are trying to scumread GB (one of my better Townreads at the moment) and myself (who I know is Town). CopCake is also trying to scumread Moosy (another one of my top Townreads at the moment) and does not seem to be suspicious of ANYONE that I think has been suspicious, as her 4th choice was Fidei, who practically has to be null in anyone's book.
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On September 06 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. I think that this is irrelevant and you should focus on finding Mafia m8.
As always, I will remind you that I can continue to find Mafia whilst also doing anything and everything else that I feel like. 
It's not irrelevant. Players are reacting to Hydra's exit on the basis that he's a player who has participated in 0-1 games here before. If it's a Smurf account instead, that would (rightly) alter their reactions.
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On September 06 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction. GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game. You haven't obs enough glowing bear games, don't worry about it, one day you will understand. 
I have never seen GlowingBear play before now.
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