EPTNewbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 3
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On September 07 2015 07:53 Superbia wrote: Maybe, I didn't really review your filter too much so I didn't have that mentally noted down. I might double check this tomorrow but I'll probably take your word for it since people are likely to call you out if this is bullshit. Read his filter, the progression makes sense. he saw both alignments in n00bking and got paranoid with boxerfred saying both wagons were okay. | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:57 GlowingBear wrote: Now fucking lynch scott and Rayn rayn, definitely not, scott, do you have something stronger than what you previously posted? Because I don't think his play is mafia exclusive. | ||
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Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent. I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town. Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak. Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this. The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858. "I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything" Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:30 n00bKing wrote: Most games, maybe, which is why I came here. Because the places I like to play don't have games as frequently. But there's no quality here. Cake is suspicious because her vote against me comes in an obvious pile-on position for Scum that is looking for a safe place to land. She continually says things about Moosy that are not true, and projects onto him her own scummy behaviors, as though she's watching a mirror instead of watching him. She is also overly defensive in situations that don't call for it. Which is not always a Scum trait, but is seen from Scum more often than from Town, in my experience. GlowingBear and Scott (mostly GB) have cited specific posts from CopCake that are suspicious, and I had similar findings. For future reference, as some of the bolded wasn't in my original case, particularly the vote. I also took issue with her points on moosy, and she never resolved this. Past midnight here so I'll return tomorrow. Good night. | ||
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On September 07 2015 08:29 scott31337 wrote: Without a Doc/Vig/JK/Vet claim I guess I have to believe him, but there's no point claiming before D2 and getting RB'ed anyway. That was a poor phrasing on my part. That post was actually directed at gb to provide a stronger case on you. Not saying you need to provide a stronger case on gb. | ||
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Didn't really get a chance anyhow to look that close at you, all that comes to mind on you is cake pushing you for what I thought was poor reasons. | ||
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I forgot how close we were to eod when I last asked but what were your main points prior to lynch? | ||
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If gb's claim is true, and for now we assume it is - then there's definitely a cop about. And no framer to mess about. I'd recommend to check into breshke/boxer/slam. MD has a 7 page filter which can be sorted out. | ||
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As for me not listening to you, I've already explained why and I've explained my reasons. I won't speak for the other scumreads you have, but especially given n00b's lynch (and your remarks to that lynch, something along the lines of I can't believe he played that way) has it ever occurred to you that sometimes townies (especially in a newbie game!!!) do play suboptimally? Just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that person is necessarily mafia. | ||
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On September 08 2015 07:57 GlowingBear wrote: I disagree. Rayn is a good player but his play here is completely off. His scumread here is based solely on a night kill wifom (pointed out by fidei), he even decided I not the doctor because yamato was shot LOL Other person that has been falling is Superbia. He started well, got slight townreads and his play turned out to be completely forgettable after that. What are his scumreads? Who does he want to lynch? He seems extremely disinterested in that and simply lets the game carry on. I think Superbia posted that he wanted to lynch Slam end of night 1. | ||
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I looked at Slam's filter again, most of it is filler, but he seems to be going back and forth on Superbia if you read pages 7-9 of his filter. I agree with all the points so far being made that Superbia has light town reads and doesn't seem to be having reads on people as much as the others, but his post-lynch questioning of moosydoosy and fidei is probably towny. I'm ignoring Slam's filler but I don't understand his wavering on Superbia either. | ||
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yeah it's wifom but it's generally the norm from what I've seen. | ||
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On September 08 2015 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: i don't understand this lynch at all. the most that i can come up with is that they were trying to frame me because rayn was the obvious lynch. but then that means gb has to be town too. ugh. On September 08 2015 08:20 Fidei86 wrote: IDK. That's the only reason I have for even doubting his CC for a second. But it's nowhere near enough to go against the fact that his CC makes absolutely no sense from a mafia perspective whatsoever, and although rayn is raging, he's not an idiot. Trying to digest this and the bolded is the part that I'm confused on. I still largely agree with the idea that it's weird why he wouldn't stay on GB, but to think and be paranoid he'd out himself as cop? Nah, the switches as I recalled happened so quickly that no one had time to think about giving themselves away as cop like that. There was what, like a few minutes left when it all went down? And MD I don't know how the post you quoted, how it makes Fidei mafia. Unless you think he's mafia for his voting behaviour, which I do agree itself is scummy. | ||
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On September 08 2015 08:24 Breshke wrote: GB I think it is plausible in a world where rayn is the doctor and think there is a possibility you are claiming as VT hence most anti town player Does he actually have a history of doing this? I don't know what town motivation it would be to fakeclaim a role when you risk drawing out a blue role. And shouldn't someone experienced (I was coached by him last game??) know better? | ||
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On September 08 2015 08:28 Alakaslam wrote: ... What have you the impression Rayn claimed cop? On September 08 2015 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am a doctor. What are you trying to say? | ||
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On September 08 2015 09:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: i need to take a step back from this game. basically my entire game view is based off of the fact that copcake is scum but for some reason no one is reading her the same way that i am. Ignoring all the crap with the claims and before the claims, I felt copcake was mafia based on her filter and her list post was pretty faulty. I didn't like how she dodged questions. Additionally if she's convinced glowingbear is mafia, then I'm surprised she isnt' trying to find his partners in the meanwhile. On the other hand she was pushing him relentlessly and even if she is right (even if for bad reasons) it's (somewhat?) unlikely she's try and bus him on teh first day. That's where my head is on that issue. | ||
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