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On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia. I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me. I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously  you already are. I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb. Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia. He is looking into other places in who is mafia. There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion. There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.
Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you.
Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check.
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On September 06 2015 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:- because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't. - his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained. There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game. Read my filter, it's all there.
But doesn't that make him townie?
Like if he knows his meta and how he works, and he knows how you read him, wouldn't he try to mimic that as mafia?
Mafia would try to win town's or strong player's trust, so I think that if he was mafia he would try to just act as "alakazam" town unless he is very very bad at faking it.
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On September 05 2015 14:29 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:07 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.
The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.
meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. On September 05 2015 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cakeycake what's your read on Noobking?
And do you think someone (else - if not him) is mafia? Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? yes, it makes him like 95% mafia. On September 05 2015 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:12 GlowingBear wrote:
You don't think is reasonable to call you Mafia for displaying bad arguments in thread, at least in my POV?
Also, consider I'm town. I'm having very different reads from you. I think Moosy doosy is Mafia and I really don't understand how can you town read him.
Do you understand why I think Moosy doosy is Mafia? I am sorry if you think that way but i have displayed zero bad arguments in thread. My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good. My argument on noobking is also good. You are (probably unintentionally) misrepresenting my "argument" on Breshke. So please go back and read what i answered to Moosy. You know i tend to use certainties, if i say "zero reason" it does in fact mean "zero reason in my opinion (at this point)". I push people to contribute, and i pressure them, that's why i use such wording. You should know it, you have played with me enough. I don't undersntad why you think Moosy is mafia. Can you clarify? Or do i need to go read somethign again? On September 05 2015 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? yes, it makes him like 95% mafia. And what's the mafia likelihood on the player that you're voting against instead of him? lol 98% On September 05 2015 10:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
town:
MoosyDoosy
CopCake
scott31337
Superbia
GlowingBear
yamato77
Breshke
scum:
n00bKing
Alakaslam
CoughingHydra
Fidei86
boxerfred
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play. fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else. fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers. sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right. seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it. this guy is hilarious. On September 05 2015 11:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 11:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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It is an attitude thing. I have played on VS where people tended to post nothing important on D1 before i started playing there. You can usually tell if people are just "hanging around" and most likely town, or mafia who try to say something even semi-game related.
I thought that was what Breshke was doing (the latter), but i was probably wrong.
I don't see anything wrong in Moosy's early posting.
If you have something you feel like i should re-look in a different light please let me know. I understand what you were saying about Breshke. I just think that on early game you can't pick a single post and assume the guy is simply "posting just to post". But if you see the guy doing it in a series of posts, then this would be a hard evidence. Let me show you posts that I think illustrates this better: + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. I'm hating everything you post. Have you ever listend to Eminem - Guts Over Fear? He's definitely lost skill but I like his message better nowadays. On September 05 2015 08:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear final anwer, are you claiming a vigilante or not? I am + Show Spoiler + can u be serious plzerino On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:9. like u can just scroll thru instead of asking miss. On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. On September 05 2015 08:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eminem - No love
oldie but goodie On September 05 2015 08:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:42 CopCake wrote:
How exactly "rayn calmed down" when I got in?
Couldn't he just calmed down on his own? I was being a funny punny. Zebrahead is actually pretty good too tbh. I like "Falling Apart" the most. On September 05 2015 08:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:HI NOOBKING OMG I LOVE U On September 05 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing n00bKing. Just a question: Are you mafia? Like, the last post, especially. Why he asks that to noobking? What answer does he expect? mmm...I consider myself the best person in this game to read n00bKing rite now so i know what im doing sir. and everything else i've been doing actually does make sense too. btw have u listened to Eminem - Mockingbird? it's so sad but gr8 m8. kinda funny because the bird got its name for sounding like its mocking people when it's actually not. I don't like Eminem. What did you get from his answer then? im guessing this was the question. 1. eminem doesn't like u. 2. i already said this but n00bKing is town. he's acting like his town game rite now although it would help if u guys stopped antagonizing him. like don't worry he's probably working on a big case right now because that's what he does. he asks a bunch of questions then writes a big case. the reason why rayn probably doesn't know this is because he was in the game where n00bKing was scum and didn't do this. 3. also, the point of me asking him was to set a rapport. the biggest tell in n00bking's scum game is how he posts. he posts more friendly/has more rapport as a scum. however, what he did was respond and then got to business straight away. this leads me to believe him as a town as he focused straight away after acknowledging me. and it's natural for him to acknowledge me because i've been in all of his past games and we've done some good work together. Why can't noobking do point 3 as mafia? n00bking is one of those players that are really bad at faking things as mafia. it was my mistake to not realize it in retrospect but i've learned from that game. I am actually asking because from what i remember it's not the thing of "being bad at faking stuff". It's the thing of being unable to understand if the people who know something better (in this case other people - like me/yamato/slam here, or like Rels in the last game) say something there is probably something behind it. Like if people who know certain people better than he does call them mafia/town, he is jsut incapable of even aknowledging the fact he could be wrong and the rest of the people are right (which btw goes against this): The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. On September 05 2015 12:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey slam can you make an mspaint picture of how town you are in this game? I discounted those on my own, I had 11 
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect
On September 05 2015 14:34 n00bKing wrote:
No one gives a shit about this 9 posts vs 3 posts, 4 posts vs 3 posts, 11 posts vs 3 posts crap. Knock it off.
Like no way in hell alakazam and noobking are mafia together
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Ok guys, I have to out irl, I will be back in an hr I think but I won't last more than 1:30 hrs.
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For the list so far that has been participating:
MoosyDoosy: He has an obsessions with my posts and i don't know why. When I arrived he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived" which is like ???? he claims it is because rayn got happy in the sign up thread but it kinda looked like he was waiting for me. Since then he hasn't fucked stopped. He claims that my posts are "useless" and I beg to differ. He also says that I have been pocketing people (lol the workd pocketing) which is NOT TRUE because I am like, getting my own info on my own way, if I was POCKETING people I have my own ways and I have been doing a bad job pocketing if people have eyes on me, no? Oh the irony, so yeah you also fucking need to stop people to ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SHARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU THING BESIDES ME if you are fucking town, i don't know why rayn thinks you are town, effort? that's what people is saying so far but you just checking every step i do with a giant glass is what i don't call effort. When you asked glowing bear about what he thinks your answer was just "mmm" I mean it looks like you REALLY TRIED and CARED for his opinnion, I think you are pretending to put effort but you are actually doing nothing, you are just doing a mimic of what a town looks like. "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM ASKING QUESTIONS HEY EMINEM SONG" and guess what? you stopped to share eminem songs or whatever when i called out your bullshit.
n00bKing: I didn't like his entrance nor I liked how he is interacting with rayn. Rayn is pretty town in my opinion and i think it's fucking obvious, he is also closed minded with his "oh but a town shouldn't react the way rayn is doing so" Dude if you are town, you should know rayn is town, i have shared the meta when he is mafia and i guess someone else has done it too, you might have your opinion but the fact rayn is attacking you or someone else doesn't make him mafia, why don't you sit, drink some tea and think in a word in which rayn is town, if he is mistaken prove to ALL OF US why you are TOWN but.... but BUT you have been trying to frame rayn all the fucking way, omg that is absolutely a very townie thing to do. Prove yourself and don't blame anyone of your mistakes. You might say "oh but it is exactly what moose is doing with you", it's different, rayn is looking at other places, moose isn't.
CoughingHydra replaced by NocturneMage Day 1: I didn't like him, felt odd and now is replacing, will say neutral but i want to see his replacement.
CopCake: Town forever
Alakaslam: I know some of you have him as a little scum lean earlier but I think he is town. You might say "oh he is faking his meta" or "he sucks at faking" but from my point of view he would try to blend in and pretend to be town if he was mafia. Like if a strong player has a meta on him, wouldn't he try to be the most possible to look as his town meta? He also doesn't feel agressive or like trying to throw dirt unlike noobking and moose.
Fidei86: Uh he is like, he exists but at the same time he doesnt. Little scum lean since i doubt the three mafia are active.
scott31337: Town so far.
Superbia: The few she has made look pretty town so far, she is trying to solve the game and give her perspective.
GlowingBear: I don't like how fucking wishy washy he is with his reads and votes, he is also focusing on useless details. It's like he doesn't care who he is voting for. His also "omg i am town vigilante" looks like yeah dude, doesnt care if he dies because if he aint the vig the vig will vig him and if you were the vig you would shut up so mafia wouldn't attack you, you are pretty much an "i dont care lol" this whole game. But with everything you have caused with your claim you should have at least for now try to be serious but you haven't changed, mafia lean.
boxerfred: Don't remember him.
yamato77: Domo arigato mr yamato is town, I was mafia with him last game, he sucks as mafia. He would also be epic mia.
Breshke: Uhhhh nothing has stood up a lot with me with this person.
raynpelikoneet: Town.
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Omg i wrote the biggest post so far this round.
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So yeah
moose, noobking, glowing bear, fidel are the ones to watch out.
The replacement too.
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And if glowing bear avoided your question why didnt you continue to pester him?
ding ding ding
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"never said rayn was mafia"
really
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On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people.
This honestly looks like you know that noobking is town.
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To answer noobking
this kind of posts are effort.
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Yolo I am lynching moose.
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Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU.
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On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.
You are doing bets.
Who the fuck of town does bets?
You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM.
Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch.
YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS
WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?
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Also I don't like how noobking was like
"mafia should put a lot of effort"
dude, mafia can hide and inactifag if there is v/v violence, so don't tell me that putting effort is only a mafia thing to do.
this is the second time you are doing a general "how people play mafia rules" you have said this game.
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Noobking
are you...
seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read?
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Hey noobking, what do you think of people who don't like moose's post about the bet stuff?
also to answer that other person:
pocketing = saying someone is super good and stuff to win their trust.
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On September 06 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:Hi. I was rejected
the hell is this?
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On September 06 2015 07:49 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 07:45 CopCake wrote:
Hey noobking, what do you think of people who don't like moose's post about the bet stuff? I don't know what you're talking about. I do know you're a decent lynch target today.
Moosy are doing bets in this thread and you dont think those are not bad posts?
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changing my vote back to you.
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