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On September 05 2015 07:59 Superbia wrote: If you think this you probably need to think yamato is probably mafia. I don't think mafia breshke posts that if you're both town. What is his reasoning? Trying to get inside some circle this early on? Like that? I doubt it. I am saying he has no fucking reasoning to make that post. AS TOWN. There is literally zero reasoning for him to make that post as town. It's posting for the sake of posting, the post does not make any sense if he does not think me and yamato are town. | ||
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If you are a veteran never claim. I might even go as far and say if you are a role from another setup (that has no vigilante in it) claim that you are blue, not what role you are (so you can get docced if you are a cop or wifom the NK on N1 by being a doc/jailer). Only one claim. Then we can lynch Glowingbear. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:09 Superbia wrote: Really, rayn? yes, really. if someone is going to be nothing but a distraction they do it on purpose and it probably makes them mafia. if people play seriously and don't just fucking troll then we can actually win this game. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent.Superbia can go to townpile aswell. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote: Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:33 GlowingBear wrote: AWWWW YEAH I'M THE VIGI I mind the fact that when multiple people want a clarification if the dude is joking or not he refuses to clarify. Because even if it's obvious to him, it apparently was not obvious to other people. Which he should see, and then he should stop. It is just a distraction. Can you get my point? | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote: 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. Well you will play if you are town. I know that. I am not calling you definite scum or anything. And yes, i think it's the optimal play. Just because at worst you got a guaranteed mafia with 1-1 trade. Blue roles do not win the games, lynching mafia does. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote: Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now. keep it simple. if you can get a 50-50 chance of lynching mafia on D1 by outing one blue role you should ALWAYS take is in any game. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote: I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:50 n00bKing wrote: ##Vote: raynpelikoneet now the nest step is to elaborate onto your vote. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote: I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1. He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:02 yamato77 wrote: I do agree on breshke. GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw. I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised. mmm... idk what to think of this noobking guy though. I have a hard time evaluating how he actually views people's abilities and play as he said some really dumb stuff in the last NSM game i played. Like he sure has a big ego, just don't know yet. He should be fairly obvious if he is scum though a bit later. nothing much else to say at this point, i kinda like how Moosy is playing, not necessarily what he says, at least 100%. Superbia is probably town. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote: I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not? Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: wait...so ur saying u would have believed gb's claim?? I thought it was pretty clear that he HAD to be joking. I don't know what to believe when it comes to him. That's why i wanted him to clarify. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: Really? I actually thought that most of what GlowingBear wrote was garbage. But then again, I do tone reads and I like rayn's tone. Although I did think that it was weird that he's basing some of his reads on tone when he normally relies on more substantive stuff. IF yo ulook at any game i have ever played this is 100% how i read yamato in every single game. I am not even calling Breshke mafia. So that's bullshit in the first place. My read on GlowingBear should be clear as a sky. And i don't claim cop in every game, that's 100% bullshit. And when i do, i retract from it when it's unclear to people that i am not doing it for reals. So, literally everything Glowingbear writes is bullshit. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: rayn i have questions for u in a bit. sure, i'll be here. | ||
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