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On September 21 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:49 Fidei86 wrote:On September 10 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 09 2015 23:21 Fidei86 wrote:
Moosy, are you still of the view that DESPITE the doc claim / counter-claim, you still think it's MORE likely that cake is mafia than GB or rayn? Or is that not how you view it?
I know we went over this yesterday, but the longer this goes on, the weirder it gets. -.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia. ??? I was pretty sure GB was going to flip Mafia. But if that happened, then people would do flip WIFOM and say that CopCake was town which is what did end up happening. Luckily for us, NocturneMage was the only one who listened to me and was the cop, and got a red check on her.
Okay, can you please explain to me how GB fake claiming -- a claim you THOUGHT WAS FAKE -- makes him less confirmed mafia than Cake, who ... yeah, was pretty meh ... but. I just don't understand this. I'm not sure I'll ever understand this. If your reasoning was "lynching into an unCCed cop is dumb, and I think rayn is fake claiming" then that would make sense. But you didn't say that. You said that rayn was fake claiming, you thought GB's claim was fake, but after ALL THAT you still wanted to kill Cake more, someone nobody else was talking about at that stage?
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On September 21 2015 09:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Fidei, any more questions?
Would also like your thoughts on my interaction with scott so far.
I wasn't expecting you both to be at each other's throats so quickly. I've been pressed all day, and I haven't digested fully yet. I need to re-read and reconsider.
But yeah, honestly you saying in three posts that you were sure it was me, and then flipping once scott said he thought it was you, was pretty weird. Like, I get you can get confused between Slam and Superbia -- they were both AFK and their names both start with S. But me and Scott? This far into the game? I need to re-read the thread flow.
It's 1:30am and I have to work tomorrow.
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On September 20 2015 03:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The only thing that Superbia had of note in his filter was his solid belief that Alakaslam was Mafia.
I'd like scott to explain a few things:
- his read progression on CopCake
- his read progression on me
- his thoughts on Fidei/Alakaslam I pretty much went with town sentiment that CopCake was town d1/d2ish and then started being useless so she went downhill - and then the red check confirmation. I was suspicious of you basically the whole game - your d3 showed pretty townie (you stepped it up quite a bit) and with your tunnel on CopCake basically the whole game - after the check you basically have to be town or you did some next level award nomination mafia play. You are my #1 town read. Not much has really changed - I was pretty confident of Superbia being the last mafia - He finally steps it up when he's the lynch which is disappointing. (Work has sucked all week, usually it's been slow, but I've had to put out fires all week basically and haven't had time for the game, I apologize for that) Fidei seems like he's trying to solve the game. It pretty much has to be Alakaslam.
How did I go ahead of MD in your scum read list Scott?
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Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia.
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On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia. That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope. I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can.
Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little.
It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's me. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post.
I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
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On September 22 2015 02:34 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia. That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope. I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can. Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little. It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's me. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post. I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
EBWOP:
Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little.
It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's meyou. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post.
I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
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Heading home from work now. Will be on in 45 mins or so. To commence the FINAL COUNTDOWN TO DESTINY.
Just want to point out how dumb you'll both feel if it turns out I'm mafia. I'm not. But the thing I really can't get my head around is how I came to be the established town in this scenario. Couldn't whichever of you was mafia have done the decent thing and scum read me instead? At least then my job would be a little easier.
Except it wouldn't really, because I'd still have to figure out if you were mafia. So yeah, I don't understand how neither of you are re-evaluating on me. I think the thing I have to look for is which of you seems to have the more natural read progression at the end. And, Moosy's freaking awful triple "typo" aside, it looks like him at the moment.
Gotta go back through scott's filter first. And I may wade through MD's again, and perhaps Yamato and rayn's as well.
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Shout out to the obs thread. I'll be with y'all shortly, one way or another. Prepare your witty barbs and your acerbic takedowns as appropriate. Also keep some champagne on ice, just in case.
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Scott EOD 3. You're scum reading Superbia for like two days straight, but then you lead the lynch onto BF? Explain??
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On September 22 2015 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said that I reviewed you but my scott case was stronger. I posted that first to see his reaction and because it was stronger.
That's not what you said earlier though?
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Okay so I think it's scott at the moment.
EVERYONE FREAK OUT.
Once you stop freaking out, my reasoning is on the Superbia/BF/Slam read progression you had after the Cake lynch. Like, you were hard-core scum reading Superbia, but then you choose to go for BF, when you could have easily hammered Superbia (or, you know, voted for him). Then you start hard scum-reading Superbia for POE reasons, in circumstances where Slam was hard town-reading you. It really came out of nowhere. Then you keep posting that it has to be slam, right up until EOD, when you're all of a sudden totally unsure of him.
Now need to go read GB and Cake's filters. FML.
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Okay fine, you didn't "lead the lynch". But you were actually talking about it a bunch through D3. Or whichever day it was before the Cake lynch.
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So Scott and GB have this massive shit fight D1. Then Moosy and Cake have an even BIGGER shit fight for all D1-D3.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg.
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Yeah. But it makes no sense to me for you to do that. And you were sure of him for AGES, not just the bit where he was scum reading you.
I need to take a break from filters, I'm not taking it any more. Back in 25 mins.
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Coming to the conclusion I'm just bad at this game. Have now read Cake and GB's filter and all I got was ... nothing.
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WB
I'm taking like a 15 minute more break. Then will be back. Please post thoughts in the meantime.
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On September 22 2015 04:18 scott31337 wrote:
I need to eat lunch as well. I'll be back.
I'll try my best when I get back - sorry Obs QT - It's Guardians all over again.
If this game is like Holy Guardians, then does that make me Onegu?
Seriously, this game is nothing like Holy Guardians. You guys solved in that game for GOOD reasons (to do with vote switching). This is just regular lylo. Also I'm not Onegu.
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On September 22 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote:
N00b is putting in a lot of posting and got a slight move up, but like what rayn says - he's not pushing anyone - like he's waiting to see what happens - and that makes me worried - He looks worse than the rest in the game - still #2.
GB - I went over this already - #1 - voting him now
I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him.
GlowingBear (5): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, Fidei86
copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage
n00bking (3): CopCake, boxerfred, Superbia
Alakaslam (1): Breshke
scott310337 (1): GlowingBear
the GB wagon looks pure and I think every one on him is town. I remember you commenting on this before Fidei, that a mafia would not "confirm" so many townies. Do you disagree with this now?
Meh, the people on the town were me, Slam, you, and the two towniest players in the game. If you were bussing GB, it makes sense you'd try and take the credit for it.
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On September 22 2015 05:21 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 07 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote:
N00b is putting in a lot of posting and got a slight move up, but like what rayn says - he's not pushing anyone - like he's waiting to see what happens - and that makes me worried - He looks worse than the rest in the game - still #2.
GB - I went over this already - #1 - voting him now
I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him.
GlowingBear (5): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, Fidei86
copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage
n00bking (3): CopCake, boxerfred, Superbia
Alakaslam (1): Breshke
scott310337 (1): GlowingBear
the GB wagon looks pure and I think every one on him is town. I remember you commenting on this before Fidei, that a mafia would not "confirm" so many townies. Do you disagree with this now? Meh, the people on the town were me, Slam, you, and the two towniest players in the game. If you were bussing GB, it makes sense you'd try and take the credit for it.
*wagon, not town
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