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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:09 GMT
#2767
On September 14 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
actually, Superbia comes off looking worse from this check.


for the townread on copcake or for something else?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:13 GMT
#2769
MoosyDoosy - I can't see these two (him and cake) double bussing all game - town
NocturneMage - cop and so town even if I wasn't the cop
CopCake - mafia, the (unflipped) roleblocker
Alakaslam - greenchecked n1 - could be mafia
Fidei86 - I really really really really really think he's town
scott31337 - probably town
Superbia - greenchecked n2

Honestly, lynch slam and superbia in that order I feel.

Alakaslam voted very early on GB, did he not? How early was too early?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:27 GMT
#2774
On September 14 2015 08:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 08:09 NocturneMage wrote:
On September 14 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
actually, Superbia comes off looking worse from this check.


for the townread on copcake or for something else?

For giving cop advice at End of Night. I was clearly asking him for reads and his thoughts on who's town as I saw that he was in thread, but he gave out cop recommendations instead.


Alright I need to look at that then. Because I might have missed that as I was questioning Copcake....
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:27 GMT
#2775
Oh wait...END of night? Fuck me, I was playing League.

Hold on.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:28 GMT
#2776
On September 14 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
I think both slam and copcake are decent copchecks. The latter because most people have doubts about her alignment. I thought she was town most of the game, haven't re-evaluated her. Think there were/are better kills. Still think fidei is a decent kill. Slam too probably. EoD votes mean little because they were both on town. Don't know what slam was doing or thinking if he is town, however.


Alright, I don't see a mafia partner asking the cop to check his partner.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:29 GMT
#2778
I mean if superbia really is the godfather, we have to go back and see what else makes him mafia but it would appear there's more evidence in Alakaslam's direction.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:31 GMT
#2779
Though superbia's push on Fidei....does it make sense from a town perspective?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:34 GMT
#2781
I remember I partially checked Alakaslam because he had a weird push on Breshke and he dropped it for "tinfoil" reasons.

He dropped the scumread out of nowhere. That's another point against Slam.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 13 2015 23:38 GMT
#2783
Damn me, it's getting late. I have work in the morning this time.

Will pick it up tomorrow.

One mafia roleblocker on a plate, coming right up!

Good night all!
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 10:19 GMT
#2799
It's a bad thing to say really regardless of alignment really.

I should be catching a break again in an hour, more diving when I do.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 14:58 GMT
#2815
On September 14 2015 21:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The thing is that Cake was pretty happy to bus GB right off the bat which isn't hard to see as he was just the Mafia Goon. On the other hand, she was pretty hard townreading Alakaslam off the bat and never really changed her weird despite how bad Slam looked at certain points.


Yeah. Per database, yamato (who also argued that slam was town) has played a lot of games as has Rayn and Slam.

He said slam was town, though Rayn said he was Mafia. It's one thing for experienced players to be making those comments but people new to the community would be having a much more difficult time reading someone like Slam.

And Cake/Slam random convo to me is not very alignment indicative for Slam (agreed it is for cake) since both were hard townreading each other.

I won't be alive to make the decision but had I been it'd be Scumcake, then Slam then Superbia.

I looked at the votes from Day 1 and Superbia at no point voted GB pre or post claim, so no indication there.

Going to look at GB/Cake/Superbia interactions but to be honest I don't recall too many.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 14:59 GMT
#2816
Why is Superbia so eager to kill Fidei though? I don't understand.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 15:34 GMT
#2818
Doublechecked through Scott's filter, explanation for his early push on GB made sense, as he said it was meta. (Post 2609)

His reads on GB and MD and such all seemed to have evolved normally. He does ping out Copcake in 2620 and explains why but puts priority on Boxerfred. Can't see him draw attention to her like that when he previously thought she was town unless he is trying to set himself up for late game.

Don't think.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 15:49 GMT
#2819
Alakaslam tries to push Scott for being afk and mentions that he and his other scumread are scared of him when Scott mentioned why. (Post 2331)

Not sure if that's bad town or Mafia.

It does look opportunistic.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 15:52 GMT
#2820
Alakaslam -

who do you think is the final Mafia?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 18:49 GMT
#2830
tbh Copcake is Mafia and she tried to leave or faked trying to leave its not a stretch you would regardless of your real life situation, you have to stop playing regardless of alignment.

I really don't think he was being malicious, you're a question mark and he's trying to work around that.

I actually think you are last mafia irrespective of your activity but a mafia Superbia seems to be very capable from his Campus Mafia filter of going long and deep to victory.

we are not ignoring that.

as for the ban comment, he's not a host so not really worth getting worked up on. Meh.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#2833
On September 07 2015 03:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm here. Haven't read past few pages. Game kinda feels hard.

rayn/yamato still very town.
Stuck on moosy's alignment. Something feels off compared to previous game filters. Not sure what, still reading. His associative read triggered all sorts of re-evaluations.
Stuck on noobking's alignment. His post style feels different from his mafia post style. Planning on reading into his meta after moosy. Feels like moosy may have spewn him town if moosy is mafia. IDK
copcake tied into this. Also stuck on her alignment.
Don't know about slam/gb. Both seem very much on the sidelines.
bf superlurk. Last game he did this he was PR and got lynched d1 for it. To be honest, I think I may have the PRs down to a small circle already (of either mafia or PR) and he's not among them. Need to hear from people who have played with him.

So yeah. Still very much in the process of evaluation. Here for questions and talking if people are around. Specifically the 3 above. Very busy tabbing between game filters though. So don't expect a superquick response.


On September 07 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote:
Like the problem is that I'm stucking between worlds right now. And this is mostly caused by the fact that both rayn and yamato believe in a world which I don't really believe in right now. Like they both think copcake is town, and they both think scott is town. I think they're both town and decent/good players. This leaves me confused.


On September 07 2015 05:15 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 05:13 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2015 05:08 Superbia wrote:
You think moosy would set up an associative lynch on you that is like this:
- CopCake is mafia if n00bking flips town
- CopCake is town if n00bking flips mafia.

If he's mafia??


there are two options:

He is mafia with noobking and someday had the confidence they are going to get me lynched and be like oooppsss

Moosy is mafia, knows that noobking is town for obs reasons coz he is mafia, is enjoying this lynch and is setting me up for the next day.



Do you think really that think the first option is a logical world?


On September 07 2015 05:18 Superbia wrote:
(It's only logical if you're mafia with exactly those 2)

Like he has been pretty much tunneling you the entire day. Your alignment has been iffy for many players (including myself).

If you're town and he's mafia with noobking (which is the world you're proposing), then he's throwing away his miss lynch. Hard. He is allowing his team mate to get lynched d1 and he is throwing away a/his miss lynch for the next day.


On September 07 2015 05:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 05:16 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2015 05:15 Superbia wrote:
On September 07 2015 05:13 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2015 05:08 Superbia wrote:
You think moosy would set up an associative lynch on you that is like this:
- CopCake is mafia if n00bking flips town
- CopCake is town if n00bking flips mafia.

If he's mafia??


there are two options:

He is mafia with noobking and someday had the confidence they are going to get me lynched and be like oooppsss

Moosy is mafia, knows that noobking is town for obs reasons coz he is mafia, is enjoying this lynch and is setting me up for the next day.



Do you think really that think the first option is a logical world?


godfather dude.


What does the godfather have anything to do with this?


On September 07 2015 05:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 05:44 yamato77 wrote:
I'm just going to default to sheeping rayn because no one seems particularly interested in listening to me


My apologies yamato, I've been too focused on people I think may be scummy.

Rayn/yamato, what do you think of the fact that copcake thinks a mafia circle with both moosy and noobking is likely? Even though moosy (if he's mafia) would (in his world) lock clear copcake as town if noobking is mafia.


On September 07 2015 06:47 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah. Opinions on noobking/glowingbear/copcake please pre-flip. From everyone.

Noobking- Mafia
Glowingbear- Neutral (town-lean before but yamato/rayn buttfucking town-lean)
Copcake- No idea.


So all d1 superbia struggles with Copcake's alignment. Nearly all of d1.

And then out of nowhere, this?

On September 09 2015 00:49 Superbia wrote:
Cake

After playing voice mafia with cake I think she's town this game. Looks similar to her voice-mafia town tells.


Could "scumperbia" just have tried to ease off when the pressure was clearly off?

any input?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 20:29 GMT
#2834
On September 15 2015 04:54 CopCake wrote:
##Vote: CopCake


ROFLMAO.

I might be new around here but I have heard of the baby seal concept.

Maybe you can at least amuse us.

Post some baby seals

Anyways....
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 20:49 GMT
#2840
On September 12 2015 00:00 Superbia wrote:
Speaking of sson. Slam is a town. So is copcake btw. She is probably super inno child here. Killing the only two people she would want to play with? Super good reads d1? Ya, pretty town.


LOL fuck that. I don't know how I missed this before.

On September 12 2015 00:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2015 00:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 12 2015 00:21 Superbia wrote:
On September 12 2015 00:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 12 2015 00:17 Superbia wrote:
On September 12 2015 00:15 Breshke wrote:
Yeah because me being serious had nothing to do with rayn biting at me from the get go

Explain why I would to be a pr


Why did you have a problem with rayn going on you?

i think town would have a problem if people were on them.


At fucking 10 minutes into the game? No. As town you evaluate people: Why is he pushing on me? I know my alignment, what does that make him? Etc.

You don't become bitter so early that someone is pushing on you. Unless you're mafia or a PR.

w0w and how did CopCake react to me early on? But carry on with your thoughts bro.


Copcake is confirmed town though.


..........................

On September 13 2015 06:59 Superbia wrote:
I think we have way better lynches than copcake, who I have been townreading all game. I am townreading you both (nocturne/moosy) as well.


On September 14 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
I think both slam and copcake are decent copchecks. The latter because most people have doubts about her alignment. I thought she was town most of the game, haven't re-evaluated her. Think there were/are better kills. Still think fidei is a decent kill. Slam too probably. EoD votes mean little because they were both on town. Don't know what slam was doing or thinking if he is town, however.


On September 14 2015 07:05 Superbia wrote:
I said where I stand: I think fidei and slam are good to look into tomorrow. I've half re-evaluated copcake but I still think both of those are better targets lol.


look at the read on copcake.

I don't even know what to say now.

honestly I would lynch superbia over Scott/Fidei/MD.

it's too bad I will not be alive to make the decision. there is zero chance I would lynch Fidei/Scott over superbia. fucking zero.

if we lynched boxerfred n3 over the actual godfather I swear I'm going to lose my shit in postgame.

Of course as I was a leading proponent of his lynch I really only have myself to blame for that.
Fuck my life.

how does he go from innocent child (for a bad reason) to well copcheck them when it looks like thread sentiment.

Like his shit lined up before but now when I look at an associative read between him and copcake, he looks much worse.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 14 2015 20:53 GMT
#2842
at least I checked superbia.

fuck randomisation for giving superbia the (likely) GF role and not the vanilla mafia role.

let's see if I can find more things.
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