TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2
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On August 26 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote: yay! \o/ the tina may get to lynch someone before she dies! -rolls around the thread- -tosses stones at jat- On August 22 2015 05:16 rsoultin wrote: meh against my better judgment :/ /in and i will be experimenting with playstyle changes/busy so...ye LIES! | ||
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it probably will be | ||
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On August 26 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote: heya sup | ||
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oh shit, meows time | ||
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On August 26 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote: that's cool ^^ i'll do the relentless posting and you can point me in the right direction should i poke jat with more sticks? absolutely you should | ||
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On August 26 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote: mafia bones! got him | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah? I would like to know what's the point of this when marv had done absolutely nothing at that point in time: VE made the point about marv playing like palmar and trefl was questioning him plus marv was a point of contention so the question isn't really that strange. | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:21 rsoultin wrote: i'll also accept this lol kelsiiiiieeer be super town for me so i can just not worry about you, k? thanks ^^ you're in that i dunnae maybe it's a [insert random alignment based on girl feels that changes with the wind] category presently now i've got a class i haven't finished reading the material for to prepare for so later bitches xP this just means I have to be mean and sarcastic to everyone and we already have JAT in this game so there is no need. | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:30 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, it is. I have no idea what about this is interesting to Trfel when marv had posted exactly those posts at that time: There is no way Trfel seriously expects Palmar to be able to make any kind of conclusion about marv based on this. mhmm maybe...i'd be interested to see what trefl says to you being interested in the post he made about being interested | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:34 rsoultin wrote: negatory the bolded part is just sexy coming from you ^^ and not from jat. maybe he's not mean enough? not sarcastic enough? more likely his just isn't as clever lol >< ...this got weird | ||
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bf i'd have expected to post something at this point moosy has posted bilge | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:38 rsoultin wrote: lol actually nanoparticles sounds way more interesting (yay for wiki) than being able to distinguish quiche, nahuatl and quechua poetry/myth telling @.@ take me to work with you? -noms on breakfast- meh@ksc why them? moosydoosy got half-ignored and bf...well actually i wasn't a fan of bf's one post cause it felt a bit forced to me but he's not really someone i'm prone to townreading generally anyway lol >< why does someone being half ignored make a difference? bf made one post that trefl pointed out, he hasn't posted anything and my memory of him is that he tries pretty hard as town | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote: mm could be. i coached him but didn't really play the game...and i've never played with him i don't think so you'd know more than i do i remember him trying to insert himself and not caring because it wasn't anything interesting that he was saying lol >< you played with him in gaiden and himalayas i think | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:46 rsoultin wrote: moosydoosy @.@ good god i can't read i was talking about moosy lol bf i already said made me itchy but if he's the one you were saying tries pretty hard as town then i'm wondering if you were reading the same games lol he got lynched d1 in himalayas for being practically a non-entity and gaiden...nh...i don't remember scum games so well usually. i just remember him being stubborn for awful reasons late game himalayas was like his first game or something, games i remember of him he was active early in the day, like pressuring people from opening posts moosy has just made bad posts there is no meta on that. anyway why don't you let them respond you know. | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:54 Palmar wrote: yeah I just caught up. The following people are town Kelsier rsoultin marv trfel moosy I don't remember these posting decon Vivax cheese bf hopeless I'm withholding judgement on these two for now WoS VE And this guy is mafia JAT why is moosy town? | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:00 justanothertownie wrote: Let me clarify - I don't think it is possible to reasonably explain this at all. I mean we can see what he comes up with but the fact that he posted this is probably way more indicative than whatever justification he comes up with. i'm probably going to see the justification before i judge it. | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Rsoultin is town because she (?? Haven't played in so long and this is a new face, heard this person was female somewhere but I know those rarely exist on the internet) was excited to begin the day off and start metaphorically poking people with sticks. I really want to give MoosyDoosy a townread for: so I think I will. VE is def town because he is withholding information. As odd as that sounds, I'd think mafia would be more self-conscious about coming out early in the day and claiming to have some reads but refuse to give them until an unspecified later time. Palmar and Marv are both probably town, I'll figure it out later. Palmar more town than Marv because he likes Rsoultin as town. For Trfel, I disagreed with his first post: I felt like boxerfred's "yay" combined with his claim that it's the fourth game in a row was more sarcastic, like he wanted to either play mafia or a power role but failed to get either. Trfel and I had a different reading of that post, which is noteworthy. The calling out stuff like VE's conditional wording is meh. Calling out rsoultin's one post where the read on marv changed is towny of him to call out because it's a very specific distinction hat mafia have a hard time finding. So I'm back and forth on him. Kelsier is probably mafia. Calls out moosy/bf, guys that aren't here / haven't done anything notable beside an ambivalent first post. yeh why would anyone call out people who aren't here? you haven't given a read on JAT | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf well i said trefl was town i think rsol is likely town aswell a lot of good players are posting so it's hard to give a read that I can be sure on, like I agree with a lot of what marv is saying and how he says it pleases me but he does that every game so i can't be 100% | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty" | ||
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what about you, you still want to lynch jat? | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What exactly constitutes "jatty"? And I actually agree with the first statement totally. I guess one reason why I think JAT is town is because the case on him is bad. ask rsoultin it's her word | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: wat is this "still" you speak of. I have given no reads on JAT until my recent reply to you. He's a null for me rite now. well you said On August 26 2015 22:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: So are we lynching JAT or wat. ^ puns. Cheesecake is probs town. that indicates you wanted to lynch him | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: I was trying to be a funny punny there. I was also more of asking for an actual case on him rather than just flinging stuff at him based on meta (looking at you marv). well it was a resounding success are you really looking at marv here? | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What has forum mafia come to? Have I missed the apocalypse? Or is this the beginning of a new era? lol | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: yes because he was meta reading people. And I'm not inclined to just trust people's words on meta and such. I'd much rather prefer a solid case. well i mean...what exactly is your issue here because marv said JAT was n/a and it was palmar and rsol who had the case/read | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: Oh never mind. I'm mixing up Palmarv in my head. -.- I meant Palmar. ok so what meta thing did palmar say that annoyed you? | ||
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"palmar caught marv in some games off like 2 posts so im waiting for palmar's thoughts on marv" for one thing JAT might not have known this was the case, trefl didn't even say this was the reason he wanted to get palmar's thoughts and even if JAT did know this happened he might have forgotten about it. with this in mind JAT asking trefl to explain his point isn't bad at all. | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: this isn't really right, jat wouldn't forget and he does know from my pov, it's more that there was absolutely nothing in the posts i made (even less than what palmar catches me off) well right now i want to hear what jat/trefl actually have to say about the whole discussion that's about them. | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:34 MoosyDoosy wrote: Trfel was not joking. He is a very serious player. It is when he jokes that he is Mafia more often than not. it's a good job that you hate meta reads then | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: dude this is so simple jat's one "remarkable" post was blah therefore jat has done nothing remarkable jat may not be the most gung-ho scumhunter or whatever (he's actually more of a peanut gallery type player with sass, and that's possibly putting it nicely) however this is a whole lot more nothing than town jat's usually try to slide by with. he usually values his own opinion way more than this that is why he's scum y'all are getting hung up on the question when it's not the question but the LACK of ANYTHING interesting that makes him scum. not really sure how to make this clearer? yeh i get that bit but it's still early days | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: Kels was town from his first post onwards. He's been pretty sexy this whole time m8. i'm sitting in a towel eating peanut butter sandwiches form an orderly queue | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:48 justanothertownie wrote: You know that this does not make me mafia if there simply hasn't been anything else of note to say. Who did have things of note to say so far besides me? Noone really. Because Palmar and rsoultin are calling me mafia for the best observation that has been made so far and that is basically everything that happened so far scumhuntingwise. this is actually a good point things have moved on a bit, you have any reads? | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: His willingness to call out rsoul and his direct manner when he posts. tone reads basically mhmm what do you mean by call out? the emoticon thing is a joke btw | ||
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mhmm yes they did interact. why is that towny? | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Meh I think JAT is town and Palmar can lick a [redacted] lamppost in wintertime. mhmm why? i don't know if he is mafia but he's on probation | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:58 MoosyDoosy wrote: tone reads and as i explained before, i was trying to use this as a chance to call him out too because he hasn't said much ever since. esp since he'll be a good asset if he is a townie. ok this might be hard but pretend wave isn't in the game... can you give like a coherent list of your thoughts on JAT/trefl/palmar/marv/rsol | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote: No, it's based on what I thought originally PLUS how he's responded to people on his wagon. I think his post to Trfel is in character regardless of his alignment, and I think how he's responded to Palmar's push (maybe not so much rsoultin's, but Palmar's for sure...maybe because rsoultin's point is stronger than Palmar's...) has felt pretty townie. He's capable of this play as mafia, but he's also capable of this play as town imo. im not sure i get this rsoul has a strong point and he's capable of doing this as either alignment he responded well to people on his wagon except rsol..so palmar then, so he is town? | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG PEOPLE I'm not voting JAT, that's the important thing. what do you think about moosy? | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:11 VisceraEyes wrote: ^ What do YOU think of Moosy is the real question. early posts felt awkward, inconsistent, seems to forget things feels scummy to me but could just be a lightning strike. | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:37 Vivax wrote: Been a while since Palmar actually played on D1. What happened? who cares | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: -shrugs- wave wasn't relative to the discussion but you bring him up out of nowhere? lynching him solely off of entrance posts and behavior when the game is more euro time based seems a poor argument as well. Then again, there isn't much to show that he's town, but don't you think we should let him post some before trying to lynch him? werent you town reading wave? | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also I did give hard stances to Kelsier earlier so there's that about your "smokescreen". if that counts as hard then i don't know why my girlfriend complains so much | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote: You're sweet. I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep. I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read. what is it that is good about it? | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:05 Vivax wrote: Only if marv wants me to be. Otherwise you have no power here. Also why. it's a joke | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote: I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town. well he is the only early point of contention so i wouldn't call that forgettable... I don't really see this palmar is pushing so i can't read him excuse. | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:15 Vivax wrote: I'm notorious for snapping at things before reading the thread. Who is pushing you for that argument exactly? *facepalm* | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"? If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid. If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it. Trfel didn't ask the question dude wtf is going on | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote: It's EXACTLY the amount of back and forth that I find disconcerting. Like, they have back and forth every game but it's a LOT in this game and they IMMEDIATELY townread one another (at least it looks that way to me.) In my experience that's a result of one of them being mafia and trying hard to get the other to townread them, saying all the right things, etc. Both Palmar AND Marv are capable of fooling the other, it just takes effort that generally neither of them are willing to put in. Who's to say they aren't willing to put it in this game? I only mention it because it looks like you're building town/town marv/Palmar as the foundation of your thought process this game and I'm getting bad feels from Palmar. of the two i'm pretty sure marv is town for palmar i'm still undecided, I mean he is playing the game but the tunnel on JAT feels like it needs more to it. rsoultin actually brought up the "better case" but I haven't seen anything new by palmar except to keep calling him mafia and stopping him from adding shit to the game. | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: For some reason I can't quote it but this is the post I'm referring to. I think you're just confused as to what exactly I'm talking about. "Family comes first, sorry. I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity." i mean that isn't really a question but alright. | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote: Oh VE thinks I'm mafia. I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list. hmm I think VE is town personally | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes it does. Because it means that Trfel probs knew about the Palmarv bromance and felt that Palmar could have read marv based on those two posts. Either way, I'm getting tired of you just throwing things at everyone's posts with no purpose behind it. eh, I'll just sheep wave/rsoul. ##vote justanothertownie ugh | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes it does. Because it means that Trfel probs knew about the Palmarv bromance and felt that Palmar could have read marv based on those two posts. Either way, I'm getting tired of you just throwing things at everyone's posts with no purpose behind it. eh, I'll just sheep wave/rsoul. ##vote justanothertownie like...you told me you wanted to see his defence and that was why he was null...and so what has changed your mind, wave coming back? has he come back and been clearly town or ?? i dont ge tit | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:14 MoosyDoosy wrote: The only people I have ever interfaced with prior to this game are Trfel/you/rsoul. From what I've seen all 3 are good players so I'm more inclined to sheep you guys and listen to your judgment. -shrugs- like..I don't get it what made you go from null to mafia on JAT when you're reason for null was waiting to see the defence, what changed your mind? | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's been throwing shit at basically everyone and I feel that there's no purpose behind his posts. hmm alright | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote: you fail to understand why i'm scumreading you and you also fail to note that i've been talking about plenty of things not you ^^ this looks more like a dodge to me than anything else enjoy your bday can i get like a summary of what else you said. not that I don't love reading all your posts but...it's easier if it just one place | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote: lol really >< on what? on everything? even things i've changed my mind about? caveat: jat, are you saying his posts are too clean as in constructed? fine i'll go read it properly i get off on cheesecakes posting , it actually makes sense when I read it | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote: lol ksc >< i'm fine with answering i just am not sure what you want? i'm trying to correct that "read you idiot" problem i have >> well it's just my abiding memory of your posting was about JAT and well..it's easy for points you make to get mixed in with the other words you type. i found your list of reads so its ok. you and wave still bros? | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:35 rsoultin wrote: i've got town feels on him but i'd have to glance back at what i scanned during lunch to remember why lol >< i think it's how he responded to the pressure + just sheepled without being all super!town about it wave seems insanely conscious how he looks when he's scum...even in gaiden he had a strangely good thumb on the pulse of thread sentiment while being basically afk...people outside the scum team may think it was just lazy but the calculation there was impressive to me dude he literally said im not going to post and see how long i can get away with it =) | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote: dude you got modkilled too early to know what i'm talking about lol >< how rude | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Where did deconduo go? lol who gives a fuck | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean to be fair that was for two reasons: 1) Meta change 2) I was going through a LOT of shit at the time and couldn't play the way I normally would even if I wanted to. I kept up with thread as best I could on my own time and did my best not to get modkilled until I could do more. It's pretty unlikely I would ever play like that again without a similarly damn good reason. it's cool i'm not using meta or anything from that game | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote: like, if you're curious and care to reopen our scum qt two moments stood out to me...one where he went shit shit i fucked up because he came back and his posts didn't make sense from town (he was questioning the scumreads on one of the largely scumread townies, i think the cop we auto-lynched) and hard-bussing me to keep town happy and content. no he didn't do much but he clearly knew what he was doing there's nothing calculated about sheeping the jat vote on no reasoning of his own lol >< and i don't see him doing that as scum he did add additional reasoning though ..maybe im drunk | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:42 rsoultin wrote: true :/ don't ask me to qualify my feels! it's like asking me to i dunnae...describe music or something i wouldn't even talk about it if you didn't ask cause lol it's not really that important presently i don't know how i feel about wave/jat | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote: meh so like the semi-townie thing on jat i dunnae actually was townie tbh he's kind of a bully when he's caught as scum, in that he just flails around, and i'm not seeing anything particularly brilliant to make me think he's actually town here. did anyone else see something that would counter that impression? ftr, what i expect from a jat is essentially agreement sometimes with no elaboration, sometimes with an extra point that introduces a new perspective or disagreement and why that's fairly well-reasoned instead i see a lot of flailing and a refusal to admit that his push on truffle isn't good or an attempt to revisit that section and see if he was wrong/prove that i'm wrong about the context of truffle's comment basically for JAT, i saw the point he made about trefl, it wasn't a great point and i offered an explanation for it, but i don't think his rebuttal was too bad, then you gave another explanation for it and palmar went off on him. point is we have multiple explanations and trefl hasn't even come back to give the actual explanation so it's hard to make a read off it. I was expecting JAT to come back and give reads on the game but it's been as you said, more of a tantrum than anything else. the only interesting area was about wave I think and I think his reentry to the game has been a bit awkward then moosy who I scumread decides to vote JAT despite being null on him, but i'm not sure if he is just incompetent town rather than scum. | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote: ye i wouldn't use feels if they didn't work better than logics for me -_- they're irritating and especially hard to explain who does the ksc want to lynch right now? also, do you have a read on vivax? he's not coming off to me as nearly as townie as he was in storm and i'm not sure if that's because i was scum there and already knew he was town or what among active players...i'd lynch moosy/wave amongst the afk's i'd lynch bf or hopeless i have no idea on vivax yet. he went from brain vomit to "not post as town to fix my meta" so needless to say it's a crapshoot for me at this point i'd trust your judgement on him. | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote: i dunnae people seem to be scumreading moosy for things that i'd expect new players to get scumread for as town :/ i'm really not sold on that yeh pretty much why i'm unsure | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Do eet. oh i'll fucking do eet | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote: OMGUS, paranoia, and something I can't talk about makes me wonder if KSC is scum. Low priority either way. sick case | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:20 deconduo wrote: I got bored after page 22 or so and drank a bottle of wine instead i approve | ||
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On August 27 2015 06:49 justanothertownie wrote: The summary is the following: Rsoultin does not think I am "jatty" enough. Evidently she hasn't even the slightest idea of what jatty is. And wow you guys produced like 2 pages since I left. I bet I will se an incredible amount of scumhunting upon reading this. blame wine | ||
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On August 27 2015 06:44 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, I thought you taught MoosyDoosy how to play mafia? Clearly you haven't done a very good job trfel...don't know how caught up you are but you need to explain , in detail, what you meant about "waiting to hear palmar's thoughts about marv" | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he? i mean..yes he has | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote: The more you try to give orders the me the longer I will wait until I do anything besides calling you stupid. come on man | ||
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Town Rsoultin - Tone read and her attitude to the game feels towny to me, interactions with JAT, myself, Trefl etc. despite her best attempts she has been very reasonable. Marv - I like his interaction with palmar early in the day and the way his reads have progressed has felt town. Palmar - I was a bit skeptical of palmar because his play has been to just push JAT, but i've seen a few posts I like that make me think he's town. and his chats with marv. leads to Trefl - Same reasons as palmar I like a few of the posts. He was the first person to really dive into the game and question VE. Plus I agreed with his meta read on Hopeless. CC - I just really like to read when he writes it makes me tingle. In terms of his reads I agree with the point he raised initially about JAT, VE - I had a mindmeld with him about moosy early on, . I liked his concern about palmar/marv . overall just agreed with a lot of his thoughts. Scum Wave - This comes down to a few points. One is his reentry to the thread saying oh yeh JAT is mafia but I can't get a further read because palmar is pushing him, it feels like trying to absolve himself of rseponsibility if the lynch is bad. The second point is how he tries to point out that moosy is pocketing him. Moosy because pocketing efforts when I am the only one in this game he knows to be 'good.' I say 'good' because I have been SUPER on point in the last whole bunch of games I've played (as both alignments for once) and Moosy correctly realizes that I could be a threat based on that. he then wants to get moosy's thoughts and responds thusly. On August 27 2015 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote: I am interested in Moosy's thoughts now that I have arrived. On August 27 2015 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Like MAYBE I can see Moosy giving lynch wagon credit to rsoul. Maybe. But me? And since I've come back Moosy has asked me a few random questions that just seem really disjointed---like i don't get the feeling of why he needed me to come back in the first place so urgently. ok what did he make of all of moosy's actions? On August 27 2015 07:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he? which is not true at all, Moosy had posted like a whole other page of stuff including changing his vote and giving a list of reads, feel like wave should be more invested than that. overall it just feels like he is happy to lynch JAT without commital whilst throwing suspicion at moosy. Hopeless - CC and Trefl made the best points about this. I totally agree Vivax - I trust Rsoultin on this one, he has done absolutely nothing except ask a few weird questions nulls moosy - I don't see mafia moosy going "hey scum buddy wave help me out" but moosy has been very inconsistent however he has inserted himself into most points of the game and tried to question/give opinions...i generally have a low tolerance for inconsistincies and I think moosy may be... confused town if that makes sense. About JAT So the main thing about him right now is that he "hasn't done anything" well a couple of things here if you look through his filter you actually do see things, he didn't like wave and made points about him he didn't like trefl later on in teh day when trefl was completely missing sarcasm/jokes. he was pushing things. the apparent obstinance is because of palmar's fuck you you're mafia. I'd want to see more from JAT as things go on but I don't think he has been scummy. bf and decon - unaware of meta but AFK is shitty, i thought bf was a tryhard but...see what they do | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:26 rsoultin wrote: lol i hesitate cause fuck wave he can fool me and has but really it seemed to me like he got suspicious of moosy early for moosy relying on others (which i actually don't find that strange in anyone, especially new players, but i get the paranoia) and has been kinda...tunneled...on him since? i think wave's wrong but i don't know that that makes him scum? ksc mind quoting the stuff jat actually did? like i remember the stuff on truffle to some extent but i remember it from vivax i think maybe? i'm pretty sure it was vivax stuff on wave On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push. On August 27 2015 01:04 justanothertownie wrote: Cool. So what is decent about the read? [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote: For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right. /QUOTE] ???????????? What is this shit?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:10 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:05 KelsierSC wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.[/QUOTE] You're sweet. I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep. I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.[/QUOTE] what is it that is good about it?[/QUOTE] I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town. [/QUOTE] Where does marv agree? This is the most bullshit read on me I ever saw btw.[/QUOTE] stuff on trefl [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote: Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no? Don't really have time to filter dive right now. I want to lynch Hopeless1der. ##vote Hopeless1der Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.[/QUOTE] Explanation please. Why Hopeless? Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:19 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote: Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no? Don't really have time to filter dive right now. I want to lynch Hopeless1der. ##vote Hopeless1der Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.[/QUOTE] Explanation please. Why Hopeless? Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?[/QUOTE]Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why. I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait. MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.[/QUOTE] Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote: Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?[/QUOTE] If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 18:05 justanothertownie wrote: ##Vote: Trfel[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 27 2015 18:19 justanothertownie wrote: Adding to the things I already DID say about Trfel: He clearly isn't reading and/or understanding my posts and comes to completely incorrect conclusions which alone is not a scumtell but he is pretty strongly indicating that he thinks I am mafia as a result of it. But he is too afraid to vote me. He votes the no post guy instead. He is not addressing the posts I made about him or CC directly but instead dismissing them entirely giving really weak reasoning for disagreeing with them. FOR EXAMPLE: He said I cannot say that CCs posts are too clean if I disagree with some of his reads. Well if he was actually willing to try and analyse the posts I made about CC he would have noticed that I am primarily talking about CCs read on myself. Yet that is something Trfel completely ignores in his whole analysis.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:35 KelsierSC wrote: stuff on wave stuff on trefl | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:50 justanothertownie wrote: You missed a few posts and you missed my stuff on CC completely but yeah. i thought i was doing you a favour missing that out | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:16 VisceraEyes wrote: This is a thing. It's literally in his sig and he PLAYS around it AS mafia. Go read the QT from Nomination mafia (I think) where he mentions it several times after replacing in. im just not going to do that | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think about my post about CC's case? Just remove anything that says anything about "looks too good to be town" and give me your opinion. honestly I don't really think much of it, I don't think being absolute or forceful is mafia indicative. If I say "you're mafia answer this question" it puts you under pressure and makes you respond. | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote: This is pretty strange. How do I go from a town lean to a mafia lean based on things that happened BEFORE the post where you townread me? You can't even really say that "Oh I didn't know about those things until I filtered" because you were literally THERE when the stuff with Wave was going on. Yet at one point you townread me and later on your mafia read me. WTF? this is a good point | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:22 Palmar wrote: Good! Here's a really, really serious question to everyone in the game: WoS VE Vivax BF Deconduo CC JAT There is mafia, probably 2-3 in this group of players. If we remove JAT from this pool (just for the sake of conversation) who do we lynch? Wave | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:23 Palmar wrote: Actually maybe kelsier should be in that pool too, he has been very low-key. not cursing and yelling at one player doesn't make me low key | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote: KSC also hinging on CCs nit-picking points as a reason to lynch me makes him look even worse imo. He even voted me before CCs huge case iirc and now he uses that to justify Rsoul I think it was with you we talked about ksc? And I think at the time I felt I was maybe being unreasonable and you convinced me. Still think the same about ksc? nope my case on you is seperate from what CC said . nice OMGUS though | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay I just filtered CC. I think given what I found on my catchup regarding Trfel, he's a better lynch than CC. CC's thought process actually kinda makes sense re: Wave, I just didn't like the tone and way it was presented. Trfel is actively and objectively scummier, and there's the added bonus of it infuriating Palmar the Mafia. ##Vote: Trfel mhmm I'd probably wait to read what he actually says about why he switched read on you maybe he leaned town,.read a bit... then leaned scum there is good reason to read trefl town actually | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:38 rsoultin wrote: Ve makes no lynch list though hi ve <3 Still prefer bf if not jat btw palmar hmm what changed about bf, | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Of course.i don't think he's scum anymore for the post when I said so. this? hmm can you explain why he went to town when you were scumreading him for pocketing you and asking you disjointed questions?> | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote: I'm really good at reading truffle though and he obviously was filter diving everyone which invalidates your entire case ve Nothing changed ksc did too | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Except unlike you, I didn't go out of my way to insult anyone. Marv is happily waffling on fucking everything and you're pushing what I perceive to be a townie. Objectively speaking my content is better than both of yours this game. I said no offense intended because there was, in fact, no offense intended. Unlike your post. Fucking ass. no offense | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Yarp. Because of all new players, moosy is the most likely one to act like a super new player and apologize for suboptimal play. Could be a ploy on his own meta but I super doubt it based on what I've seen of him before. so his bad play is just bad town and apologising for it makes him town then? | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:51 WaveofShadow wrote: It doesn't invalidate his case but maybe you pinpoint why I'm unconvinced by it. so who would you lynch? | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:52 rsoultin wrote: Wave too scattered to be scum I think...if i'm right take this to the bank lol what mean you? | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:04 rsoultin wrote: Not really. Hopeless was utter shit with us I don't find it surprising truffle thinks that and he could even be right lol yeh i actually think the hopeless read was pretty good | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:06 WaveofShadow wrote: HAHAHAHh AND YOU THINK I'M SCUM FOR SAYING PALMARS JAT READ WAS PRETTY GOOD HAHAHAHSHSH no i never said that reading comprehension | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote: If you agree with cc which you do, then you think that. Also VE <3 Also marv joke is overdone Literally every game with him i agree you are mafia, but i have my own reasons for scum reading you again go and read | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:10 WaveofShadow wrote: But seriously does no one see that? Ksc calls Trfel hopeless read pretty good, and yet somehow me saying the same on palmar makes me scum. except i didn't kim kardashian two thick planks you | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote: Beards are itchy :0 And catch nasties :/ if by nasties you mean girls | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:27 WaveofShadow wrote: And also now that I'm at my computer based on Thug Life CC could very well be scum but meh Now my high is gone what is the reasoning for this? | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:53 WaveofShadow wrote: You asked me to explain why I looked back into a past game to call him scum based on meta, I showed you why. you said you went back looked at games , one really old game where he was scum. but you remembered his past games and as a result you have a tentative town read on him. So what I don't understand is why you now think he is scum. | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: That feeling when you're playing so damn good that everyone thinks you're mafia for it. Just saying, 1.5 year old meta is all but abandoned at this point. I totally get why VE'd think I'd be mafia--he played in nomination with me--but he'd also think I were mafia If i led the wagon on justice on scum. Also he may still be salty from 2 years ago in Noir Mini where I destroyed him (OK, he had me down as mafia, but nobody else did and we shot VE in the night ) as scum. Marv is more mafia for calling me mafia. #omgus A player with good analytical skills like that is hinging on a tone / old meta read and I don't think I've played a game as scum with him in it before. And I'm like his top scumread besides JAT, who he was waffling on superhard before. I don't get it. I still think Wave is mafia for not evaluating the game critically and letting Palmar do everything, it seems so textbook mafia. But he looks like he's been doing stuff since then, however mostly unrelated to figuring out JAT's alignment, which should be his number 1 priority as town. I actually agree with his point about KSC agreeing with the hopeless read, because the hopeless read is trash. The only problem is that I've been townreading KSC since ~a couple hours after I scumread him in my first post. But it's a matter of whether or not KSC actually agrees with the meta reasoning behind the read or not. He doesn't just agree because someone he admires said so, he agrees because he actually believes in a trash read. Wave asked a question to JAT, something along the lines of: "did your read on me have anything to do with CC" and jat replied that it did not. However, JAT called my posts absolutely true and good. ??? i've played with town hopeless, i've played with scum hopeless, i've seen a recent scum hopeless game not playing is his scum meta, I think I said of the AFK's he would be the best one to lynch and Trefl made a good point about it. | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote: I didn't remember his scumgame which is why I wanted to go back and look at it to see if it wouold affect my townread. It did.I don't think he's scum because of that one game, but my townread on him is gone-ish as from that game I can see that he could very well be playing this way as scum. I'm not following what you're not following here. i wasn't following why ,when i asked you for a scumread you quoted a post of you calling him town. forgive me ok so how has his play changed , why are you no longer town reading him? cos that one game from years ago? | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote: K actually done with you 'cause gonna look at JAT You're not changing your waste of a vote anyway you've made that clear i'm talking to you don't get your panties in a twist | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:11 Hopeless1der wrote: Oh god the spampocalypse. I was not prepared for this. I'm going to go full blazinghand and use his RNG methods while I read the thread and then yolo it. RNG being this (post's ID)Mod13 (0=decon, 1=wave, 2=vivax etc) no fuck you , if you actually do this i will lynch you | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:10 KelsierSC wrote: i wasn't following why ,when i asked you for a scumread you quoted a post of you calling him town. forgive me ok so how has his play changed , why are you no longer town reading him? cos that one game from years ago? | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:50 Palmar wrote: Can someone go check if Vivax is mafia? It's highly likely tbh. probs | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Like...self analysis but why the fuck would I ever go back and do a huge analysis only to OPENLY admit I am still sheeping, SAME as I did earlier, and openly admit I have no good conclusions? It's just to shift blame to Palmar and make myself look 'good?' You think that post is in any way going to make me look good? SO frustrating that people continue to hinge on 'wishy-washy' as some indicator of scum. so you make a wishy-washy post that doesn't commit to anything but you allow yourself to sheep palmar "such analysis, why would scum ever do this omg" yeh ok,can you answer my quesiton about CC please. | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote: No, sick of entertaining questions that go nowhere and attempting to explain extremely simple things to someone who just doesn't get them. Of all the waffle I've waffled in this game I'm so back and forth on KSC. I keep looking back and thinking 'ok maybe it's not scummy and I'm just OMGUSing' but his pressure on me feels way more forced than anything JAT has pushed out. it's pressure if you don't answer a fucking question jesus shit it's a very simple question | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:22 WaveofShadow wrote: You literally answer your question in the post you quote. This is why I'm sick of dealing with you. Seriously what the fuck THAT ISN'T AN ANSWER!!!!!!!!!! "I don't think he's town anymore because............................................................................????????????????????" you had a town read what actually changed why has that disappeared. Like you already took into account the scum game and yet you decided despite that he was tentative town, so why did it change? like talking to a fucking wall | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ? like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason. | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote: So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ? like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason. | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:35 WaveofShadow wrote: I hereby make it my business this game to never answer that question. You can even do nothing the rest of the game but requote that post if you'd like. it's a perfectly reasonable question so stop being a whiny little bitch and answer | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Now I am convinced you are only asking me these questions to piss me off because once again, that question was lready answered very very recently. I don't understand why you feel the need to be such a dick, but it's cool. Let me know when you decide to start playing the game for real. ok I didn't see you answer, so yes or no? | ||
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I don't understand why you changed your read on CC, your explanation is woefully inadequate I still don't understand what you want to do with JAT, you made a big post that concluded nothing , apparently this is like you being 100% town in your own words, but I want a TLDR version of it. | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:45 KelsierSC wrote: Again reasonable questions I don't understand why you changed your read on CC, your explanation is woefully inadequate I still don't understand what you want to do with JAT, you made a big post that concluded nothing , apparently this is like you being 100% town in your own words, but I want a TLDR version of it. | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Kels we should probably talk that's never a good thing to hear | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:05 deconduo wrote: I'm pretty sure Kesier and Moosy are town. I like the cases against Hopeless and the trfel more than the one against JAT at the moment. I'm gonna read a bit more and make a decision. so you would only lynch between hopeless and trefl? | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:10 justanothertownie wrote: Oh god rsoultin is next. Will skip it for the same reason I skipped Palmar. lol | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:07 Trfel wrote: I'm still somewhat suspicious of VisceraEyes? The fact that he completely dropped his read on WaveofShadow and now seems to be treating him as town, without saying anything, confuses me. Or am I missing something here? He also didn't even address the points I brought up about him. I like that he pushed his reads on Mr. Cheesecake and myself, but I don't think this makes him town. hmm well VE gave reasons for dropping wave as mafia, so you are missing somethign yes i think VE made points about you which you should answer | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:13 deconduo wrote: At the moment yeah. The case against JAT just feels the same as the case against ruxxar in TSM. I mean why do you like the case on hopeless anyway, because wave is pushing it? do you town read him? | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Nobody is looking at Vivax right now. I think he would be a good lynch aswell | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: JAT for the record, me being inconsistent is playing to my town meta. Even though my old meta should be thrown out, Marv did note that I was all over the place as town. can you explain the +1 you did for rsoultins post? | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote: Please point it out to me, because I'm just not seeing it. I don't care about VisceraEyes' points on me? I had a toneread on him, then I read his filter and found the things that I mentioned. this one On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay so I filtered Moosy, and the reason I thought he was one of the Wave pushers is because of the sheer number of times he mentions Wave's name, but it's in the context of "I want to hear from Wave" or "Game so hard w/o Wave" etc. Based on this, I think it's actually more likely that Wave is town and Moosy is like, appealing to him or something. Trying to slip him in his pocket. Only problem with that is that he and Wave are like, TLLOLOTDT buddies, so it's not unreasonable to think that he's doing this as town....I just get a really bad feeling off Moosy. The flip on marv. Ummmmmm.....I can see that from a mafia perspective. Especially if he's not super aware of Marv's meta, maybe his partners were like "WHOA BUDDY, BETTER TURN THAT SHIT AROUND" after he posted about lynching marv. Marv's right though, in a vacuum it seems townie. Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote. ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy then he made a post about CC aswell. Your explanation is cool though | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:25 deconduo wrote: Nope. Mainly because he lurked just as much in TSM and was scum there. Also this is pretty unforgivable: hmm ok, why do you like the trefl case? | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote: This is exactly my point. His read didn't change because of what WaveofShadow did, it mostly changed because of (terrible) unflipped associations with other people. Even when he takes back his read on MoosyDoosy, he doesn't mention WaveofShadow. well he gives a reason that his vote on wave was an "AFK Wave vote" i'm guessing with wave not being AFK it is no longer relevant | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:32 Trfel wrote: I don't get the impression that you've read VisceraEyes' filter recently. But I don't feel like explaining it now. Maybe later. lol wat? | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: At the time I thought JAT was town for defending against Palmar, and Palmar was just had an extremely flimsy read on him. I agreed with what Rsoultin said about it being ridiculous that the only thing JAT had done was the Trfel thing, because leaning on that the entire game wont get him anywhere. Clearly, one needs more from a player to discern their alignment. That's why I pushed him later to give reads and be productive, because complaining to Palmar and sticking with the Trfel read isn't making me read him town. ok that makes sense | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Who fucked up formatting. JAT So...a few of us established that this itself isn't the weirdest thing Trfel could have asked. At the very least some plausible explanations were offered, but JAT is having none of it and just deeptunnels based on this alone. I really would expect JAT as town to be more reasonable and consider other options than to tunnel in this way. I am aware he can be stubborn and have a stick where the sun don't shine at times, but he's not even necessarily being that way, just...oddly obstinate about something seemingly minor. This looks like townJAT This is one post JAT makes (and apparently Kelsier too) where I say something seemingly simple (to me at least) that they call me scummy for but marv very reasonably is able to point out the correct thought process/point I am trying to make. Can't tell if this is deliberate on either of their accounts because it's just weird. It's hard for me to tell from a non-biased point of view whether the points people are confused about SHOULD be things that anyone should EASILY be able to pick up on but they're being nitpicked 'cause scum or bad. I think this would be indicative if I could remember whether or not this is something JAT normally does---I feel like it is so maybe it's not indicative? I know for someone like HF it's completely non-indicative because he does that shit all the time to everyone. I should re-interate here that I think it's a little harder for me to read JAT this game because of the early pressure he's getting. Marv/rsoul made it very clear that they would have expected WAY more from him at this point were he town and I agree but I also think it's possible that JAT isn't just playing drama queen and playing up his stubbornness/anger to avoid doing stuff, but I truly do think JAT is a better player than to go 36h with only a weak push on Trfel to show for it. Actually there IS a little more. Some stuff on CC, etc A LOT of these appeals throughout. No likey. Thought process is interesting but it really COULD just be town Trfel acting like this JAT immediately tosses it out. (Side note, that post where marv tells JAT exactly what he wants to hear about everyone being idiots and stuff made me want to lynch JAT SO BADLY just to be able to read the salt from either alignment postgame in the obs QT) I had the idea going into this that JAT was completely unreasonable and only did stuff when prodded a couple hours ago but that honestly seems to be untrue. I can't comfortably be rid of the fact that he could be scum simply based on Palmar's convictions and the couple bad things I see in here, coupled with the fact that JAT is overall a solid player and has done nothing in this game he couldn't have done as either alignment. I also don't like that he's latched onto me because he's obviously wrong but he seems to be increasingly reasonable about my play (which is sort of a trend given CC's recent post. Less so Kelsier because he keeps prodding me and I have no idea to what end) I think ultimately I continue to sheep my betters here whatever they decide on JAT but he's not clear scum by any means. I think I might like a Hopeless lynch better wave i'm actually not trying to annoy you i'm just trying to figure out what you are saying.. in this analysis you did what about it makes JAT town to you? just the one post that says this is town JAT? the rest looks like reasons to call him scum. | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote: ##vote justanothertownie this is fucking horrible | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:23 deconduo wrote: Active doesn't mean town, so that's not really a defense. Still not a great move to vote without giving any reason. mhmm i thought you didn't want to lynch JAT though, so why even make this comment? | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:31 deconduo wrote: Link to a scum game where you didn't give a shit? here's how life works you either lurk and do things later on or you post a lot of content and get to ask people to do things | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:33 boxerfred wrote: I received a PM that reminded me of voting, you're the wagon, have no time until tomorrow. well you're here now and you are being a fucking retard | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:32 Vivax wrote: Where's kelsier? He's just wasting his vote atm. Same as CC. A lot of talk but little behind it if his best option is to attempt shenannies on me and then take his leave. fuck you i've been here all game i went to make some food and i just unvoted | ||
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I think hopeless is a good lynch , boxerfred is fine too decon seemed ok when he came in but his weird taunting of JAT and mindless questions means i'd be ok lynching him rsoultin why aren't we lynching vivax? | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:42 Hopeless1der wrote: We should lynch Mr.CC because RNGesus said so yeh we can lynch this guy | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:44 Vivax wrote: The question is why would you given that I'm actually starting to play now. I've been arguing with the guy you're voting for and what I've read so far is more or less "fuck BF" and "why not vivax", so that makes me question what's behind your WoS scumread. i was asking rsoultin because she apparently has a good read on you and I don't none of that has any relevance to my WoS scumread at all but nice job | ||
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I don't know what the fuck moosy is doing, this goes beyond confused town. That CC vote actually makes no sense i'd be happy with a hopeless lynch, be happy lynching moosy aswell at this point | ||
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this happened like half an hour ago | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:36 Hopeless1der wrote: This is in the game thread but not the voting thread. Not sure what to make of that but I think its semi-relevant. yeh you clearly mentioned it, how comes it is semi relevant then but now its "this" and vote switch to hopeless | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:55 Hopeless1der wrote: He fucking ninja votes right after I bring it up, how is that not scummy? you didn't say it was scummy you said it was semi relevant | ||
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It's highly likely there is a mafia in decondu/hopeless/vivax, just with the way they came back late to the game for votes. When decon came back, I asked him a few questions and I think his responses were pretty good and it showed he had been following things to an extent. Like his response to the hopeless case. On August 28 2015 03:25 deconduo wrote: Nope. Mainly because he lurked just as much in TSM and was scum there. Also this is pretty unforgivable: and then I actually liked his point about trefl aswell. On August 28 2015 03:35 deconduo wrote: More of a feeling than anything else, mainly from the back and forth between trfel and JAT. Though I'm reading VE's filter at the moment and find myself agreeing with most of what he says as well. Like he's checking over the cases and filling things out, he isn't just oh yeh trefl is scum aswell because of X, he actually has reference to interactions so I think decon could be town. Hopeless is scum , 100% needs to be vigi shot/lynched . I don't really need to rehash over the reasons for his scum, his lack of posting at all is true to his scum game, his RNG not give a fuck reentry, and then like how he tries to justify a scumread on boxerfred when really he is just trying to save himself from the lynch. for vivax , like rsol said he's town and when he came back to the game he seemed pretty reasonable so , see what he does next day phase. | ||
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On August 29 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: rite. And i'm scummy for my own waffling on you. kk coolio buddy it's totally different when you townread him and voted him in like the next post he just isn't sure on palmar which has been a theme throughout his play | ||
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On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote: You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter. he says palmar could be mafia a few times It's fairly clear he is uncertain of palmar and he repeated that just now what is this push? | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him. i did read your mega post | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game. because vivax made a stupid post | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game. i don't agree with the scum read on you | ||
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or i have reasons to town read you, good talk | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Explain how Trfel and I had the best ideas about Hopeless being mafia, and that's why you were scumreading him. Trefl had a good read on hopeless I thought you agreed with it but I misread your post. | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote: A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view. I liked the tone of his posting early on, i agreed with his interpretation of the push on JAT. He didn't like wave which was the same as me. The scum read on him is partly based on a game from years ago that I wasn't in so that has no relevance at all. | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:01 rsoultin wrote: i guess what i'm getting at here is you are basically saying that you consciously saw something that could be interpreted as either excitement or shit-posting, and simultaneously avoided the "this is shit-posting" pitfall not knowing me from adam while deciding that scum would push me for that, so anyone townreading me must be town? i just...don't get this line of thinking hmm this is a good post | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote: I have rehashed this so many times, I already know how this goes. I explain my process, you find something in it you don't understand despite being incredibly obvious, you don't let it go, I get angry, I stop talking to you. It is also STILL entirely possible to find my reads progression on CC without me even having to answer this if you would put forth the slightest modicum of effort. Here I'll even explain how. Open my filter, and Ctrl+F 'CC' You can do it. ok you are a big man on the internet well done | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote: It absolutely is because you are the only one pursuing it/who has a problem with it. ok everyone else is more intelligent than me here's my thing, I town read CC. i scum read you, maybe I am having doubts on you and I want to evaluate you again, so I am asking you to just clear something up. It isn't unreasonable of me | ||
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going to sleep, reading again tomorow | ||
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For other people I want to look at again, I'd look at CC again because he was being scum read by multiple people, he felt like town to me but worth another look. Trefl I had as town early on and because I assumed he and palmar are masons. If that isn't the case I would look at him again... I still don't know about moosy, I can't tell if he is just bad town or scum. | ||
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I don't like moosy I think his inconsistent game could actually be scum rather than inconsistent town. | ||
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On September 01 2015 18:46 justanothertownie wrote: I agree that moosy has fallen off a lot. The mason inconsistency can be easily explained by Palmar being his usual self i.e. a dick. well I agree that the D1/D2 play of palmar makes no sense if they weren't masoned. hmm I was town reading palmar and trefl by association so I don't want to lynch either of them today. | ||
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Thanks for hosting bh | ||
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