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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:39 GMT
#1921
ye sorry i'm grumpy and it's early -_-

could you please answer the question then? is the theory nuts or do you think it has value before i go chasing my tail viva-style predicated on bad reasoning lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:40 GMT
#1922
the theory isn't nuts, but i'm not sure how you're going to go about unpicking it without making a lot of tenuous associations

and is predicated on the idea that hopeless1der is town, right? else it doesn't make much sense
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:42 GMT
#1923
although a quick flick through the voting thread shows there weren't that many realistic wagons

Jat-Trfel

Trfel kinda disappears

then it's jat-boxer-hopeless and jat disappears
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:43 GMT
#1924
decon/vivax/CC (players you might expect wagons on?) got nothing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:44 GMT
#1925
On August 28 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
the theory isn't nuts, but i'm not sure how you're going to go about unpicking it without making a lot of tenuous associations

and is predicated on the idea that hopeless1der is town, right? else it doesn't make much sense


nh, yeah, there is that, too

i'd probably just handle it the way i did with mig/shockey in himalayas though and look to the people with weird read progressions without extending it to what those reads are yet lol ><

i get the feels hope may be town, yes, but the thought popped into my mind basically the instant i saw the votecount when i returned to the thread yesterday...so before the hopeless push really picked up steam i think? so it's not really dependent on each other
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:46 GMT
#1926
On August 28 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
decon/vivax/CC (players you might expect wagons on?) got nothing


decon bugged me for being really adamant about hopeless over boxer, but i kinda get the rng, reads the thread, doesn't want to change rng thought so eh

cc...cc bugs me but i can't pin it down
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:47 GMT
#1927
well if hopeless is town and your theory is to make sense, it was pushing away from a mafia jat or trfel
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:47 GMT
#1928
I'm just gonna ignore CC and if he flips mafia castigate you all for ignoring me all of d1 about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:48 GMT
#1929
On August 28 2015 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
well if hopeless is town and your theory is to make sense, it was pushing away from a mafia jat or trfel


nah, my theory isn't predicated on an actual wagon forming
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:49 GMT
#1930
On August 28 2015 05:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count


justanothertownie (2): Palmar, Marvellosity
Trfel (2): VisceraEyes, Vivax
Vivax (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Trfel
Mr. Cheesecake (2): Hopeless1der, MoosyDoosy
Boxerfred (2): WaveofShadow, Rsoultin
Hopeless1der (2): Deconduo, KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): Boxerfred, justanothertownie

Currently, justanothertownie is set to be lynched. Day ends at Thursday, Aug 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)



this is the vote i walked into (with me still on jat being the only exception) and was what earned the wtf reaction from me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:50 GMT
#1931
All the 2s is very artistic though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 11:55 GMT
#1932
lol ><

yeah it's a fucking weird ass votecount that close to EoD, at least in my limited experience

um

moosy...was acting fucking strange. i don't know if it was scum strange though @.@

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 11:58 GMT
#1933
certainly a strange tactic to suddenly decide to do as mafia (especially as a newer player)

all the players i've seen do something like that have ended up town. Except Chez, obviously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#1934
On August 28 2015 20:58 marvellosity wrote:
certainly a strange tactic to suddenly decide to do as mafia (especially as a newer player)

all the players i've seen do something like that have ended up town. Except Chez, obviously.


ye that was my thoughts when i saw it apart from wanting to beat him on principle when i was trying to get people to consolidate lol >< the only other thought being he might be trying to get himself lynched over someone else

eh ignore me now i'm just babbling

i'll post something once i've reviewed later
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#1935
On August 28 2015 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
...the point is, oh brilliant one who for some reason can't manage to be the least bit constructive at all this game and disintegrates at the first sign of a scumread, we should see things that might give away which of the 6 wagons that was in the read progressions leading up to the votes

i mentioned it cause i wasn't sure if the thought was a valid one before i start looking into things with the thought in mind, not to be ridiculed based off of simple statistics in a 14-player game

can you possibly shelve the attitude for a little bit? is that within your capabilities? cause i'd appreciate it

As long as you keep saying things like you of all people have reason to be unhappy with me this game or that I am not constructive when I have been like 10 times as constructive as you I don't really see why you would expect me to change my attitude. But maybe I will because I am a nice guy.
On August 28 2015 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 20:27 rsoultin wrote:
On August 28 2015 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
no idea how you are so strongly convinced vivax is town

i think that's pretty weird


eh i dunnae i still have a reread and i expect things to change; they always do

he felt townie to me though

that's a rather different statement to "i don't even want to consider him", he's really not done anywhere near enough to warrant that really

+1
On August 28 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
decon/vivax/CC (players you might expect wagons on?) got nothing

That list very likely contains mafia.
On August 28 2015 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
I'm just gonna ignore CC and if he flips mafia castigate you all for ignoring me all of d1 about it

I did not ignore it and probably posted more reasons to scumread him than you did (this is not an attack).
On August 28 2015 20:55 rsoultin wrote:
lol ><

yeah it's a fucking weird ass votecount that close to EoD, at least in my limited experience

I think it is pretty easily explained by all the townleaders being afk on a wagon that was clearly not going to succeed. Nobody knew what direction we were heading at all and there were too many suspects.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 12:14 GMT
#1936
maybe the fact there were "too many suspects" but actually relatively few wagons is interesting.

then again, maybe it isn't
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 28 2015 12:15 GMT
#1937
Well 6 wagons is actually already a pretty high number.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 12:16 GMT
#1938
what are the 6?

i don't really count 1 or 2 votes on someone who ended up going nowhere and never looked like they were as "wagons"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 28 2015 12:17 GMT
#1939
On August 28 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
what are the 6?

i don't really count 1 or 2 votes on someone who ended up going nowhere and never looked like they were as "wagons"

Then we had like no wagon at all until boxerfred.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 12:18 GMT
#1940
i think it's pretty much how i described further up on this page, wagon-wise.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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