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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:22 GMT
#1421
You literally answer your question in the post you quote.
This is why I'm sick of dealing with you.

I didn't remember his scumgame which is why I wanted to go back and look at it to see if it wouold affect my townread. It did.I don't think he's scum because of that one game, but my townread on him is gone-ish as from that game I can see that he could very well be playing this way as scum.


Seriously what the fuck
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#1422
On August 28 2015 02:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
You literally answer your question in the post you quote.
This is why I'm sick of dealing with you.
Show nested quote +

I didn't remember his scumgame which is why I wanted to go back and look at it to see if it wouold affect my townread. It did.I don't think he's scum because of that one game, but my townread on him is gone-ish as from that game I can see that he could very well be playing this way as scum.


Seriously what the fuck


THAT ISN'T AN ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!

"I don't think he's town anymore because............................................................................????????????????????"

you had a town read what actually changed why has that disappeared.

Like you already took into account the scum game and yet you decided despite that he was tentative town, so why did it change?

like talking to a fucking wall
Zerg for Life
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#1423
On August 28 2015 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
CC did my seemingly 'do-nothing' case on JAT somehow convince you?
How does that change your insistence that me thinking Palmar's 'pretty good' thing was scummy?


Your case was OK. You truly go back-and-forth on JAT and that's what you probably would be doing if you're town, see a bunch of people pushing on him, and want to get a read. I've done the same thing with JAT. I don't think you make an entire case just to reaffirm your sheeping nature on Palmar as mafia. I still don't agree with voting JAT purely "because Palmar", and I think that you openly admitted that you never read JAT / Palmar's reasons for lynching JAT up until now. Do you do that as mafia? Probably not. Your interactions with JAT, too, are seeming like town-on-town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#1424
NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#1425
Calm down.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 17:28 GMT
#1426
On August 28 2015 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:58 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Add to that the fact that he calls both myself AND JAT mafia and votes for NEITHER of us - which is really odd considering JAT was (and is?) the current vote leader. So he doesn't want to lynch JAT? Why not the other mafias he's reading? Why an inactive that could just be AFK town?


Why would he do this as scum?

Why wouldn't he? He knows I'm town and (I think) JAT is town, and he doesn't want the full force of either of us bearing down on him. So he votes for someone else, hides his "reasoning" in spoilers and crosses his fingers.

Why would he do this as town?
You seem to think that I'm scared of you.

Really, I'm not.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:29 GMT
#1427
On August 28 2015 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE


So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ?

like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense

like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason.
Zerg for Life
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:31 GMT
#1428
Nope.
Done.

On August 28 2015 02:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
CC did my seemingly 'do-nothing' case on JAT somehow convince you?
How does that change your insistence that me thinking Palmar's 'pretty good' thing was scummy?


Your case was OK. You truly go back-and-forth on JAT and that's what you probably would be doing if you're town, see a bunch of people pushing on him, and want to get a read. I've done the same thing with JAT. I don't think you make an entire case just to reaffirm your sheeping nature on Palmar as mafia. I still don't agree with voting JAT purely "because Palmar", and I think that you openly admitted that you never read JAT / Palmar's reasons for lynching JAT up until now. Do you do that as mafia? Probably not. Your interactions with JAT, too, are seeming like town-on-town.

I don't really see how anything I do though just in that one case changes what your original points were on me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 27 2015 17:32 GMT
#1429
Kelsier
After reading his filter I am not really leaning one way or the other. There is no post where I thought "He couldn't post that as mafia" or "this is extremely towny" but he has been active and involved while pushing in directions I think are good -> Wave, Hopeless, Vivax.
He has been pretty reasonable/logical about myself but on the other hand he never really took a stance on me/avoided doing that while still taking shots at many people who were attacking me.

Not a townread but wouldn't lynch him today - he gets on the list.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:32 GMT
#1430
On August 28 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE


So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ?

like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense

like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason.

Zerg for Life
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:35 GMT
#1431
On August 28 2015 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE


So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ?

like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense

like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason.


I hereby make it my business this game to never answer that question.
You can even do nothing the rest of the game but requote that post if you'd like.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 17:35 GMT
#1432
On August 28 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope.
Done.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
CC did my seemingly 'do-nothing' case on JAT somehow convince you?
How does that change your insistence that me thinking Palmar's 'pretty good' thing was scummy?


Your case was OK. You truly go back-and-forth on JAT and that's what you probably would be doing if you're town, see a bunch of people pushing on him, and want to get a read. I've done the same thing with JAT. I don't think you make an entire case just to reaffirm your sheeping nature on Palmar as mafia. I still don't agree with voting JAT purely "because Palmar", and I think that you openly admitted that you never read JAT / Palmar's reasons for lynching JAT up until now. Do you do that as mafia? Probably not. Your interactions with JAT, too, are seeming like town-on-town.

I don't really see how anything I do though just in that one case changes what your original points were on me.


The original points don't change. You never read / subjectively agreed with Palmar's case on JAT. You never objectively looked at JAT until now. But do you openly admit it as mafia and make a case to tell everyone that you are still sheeping Palmar? You even said it to JAT, why the hell do you do that as mafia?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:36 GMT
#1433
On August 28 2015 02:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
NO I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCUM GAME CAUSE I HADNT LOOKED AT IT AT THE TIME
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE MISSING HERE


So you have a townread on him and then that just disappears because, you read a scum game ?

like you actually need to explain more than that, I can say oh I townread wave, but then I read a game where wave was scum and so he is scum here, it doesn't make any fucking sense

like actually explain this shit to me beacuse it just sounds like you want to try and scum read him rather than actually having a reason.


I hereby make it my business this game to never answer that question.
You can even do nothing the rest of the game but requote that post if you'd like.


it's a perfectly reasonable question so stop being a whiny little bitch and answer
Zerg for Life
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:36 GMT
#1434
On August 28 2015 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope.
Done.

On August 28 2015 02:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
CC did my seemingly 'do-nothing' case on JAT somehow convince you?
How does that change your insistence that me thinking Palmar's 'pretty good' thing was scummy?


Your case was OK. You truly go back-and-forth on JAT and that's what you probably would be doing if you're town, see a bunch of people pushing on him, and want to get a read. I've done the same thing with JAT. I don't think you make an entire case just to reaffirm your sheeping nature on Palmar as mafia. I still don't agree with voting JAT purely "because Palmar", and I think that you openly admitted that you never read JAT / Palmar's reasons for lynching JAT up until now. Do you do that as mafia? Probably not. Your interactions with JAT, too, are seeming like town-on-town.

I don't really see how anything I do though just in that one case changes what your original points were on me.


The original points don't change. You never read / subjectively agreed with Palmar's case on JAT. You never objectively looked at JAT until now. But do you openly admit it as mafia and make a case to tell everyone that you are still sheeping Palmar? You even said it to JAT, why the hell do you do that as mafia?

Well I mean according to JAT (and technically he IS right, I COULD very well do that as either alignment because I am very self aware of my meta---I just don't think it's scum-indicative) that doesn't change anything.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:37 GMT
#1435
so wave you still just want to lynch JAT because palmar said so?
Zerg for Life
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 17:41 GMT
#1436
On August 28 2015 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope.
Done.

On August 28 2015 02:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
CC did my seemingly 'do-nothing' case on JAT somehow convince you?
How does that change your insistence that me thinking Palmar's 'pretty good' thing was scummy?


Your case was OK. You truly go back-and-forth on JAT and that's what you probably would be doing if you're town, see a bunch of people pushing on him, and want to get a read. I've done the same thing with JAT. I don't think you make an entire case just to reaffirm your sheeping nature on Palmar as mafia. I still don't agree with voting JAT purely "because Palmar", and I think that you openly admitted that you never read JAT / Palmar's reasons for lynching JAT up until now. Do you do that as mafia? Probably not. Your interactions with JAT, too, are seeming like town-on-town.

I don't really see how anything I do though just in that one case changes what your original points were on me.


The original points don't change. You never read / subjectively agreed with Palmar's case on JAT. You never objectively looked at JAT until now. But do you openly admit it as mafia and make a case to tell everyone that you are still sheeping Palmar? You even said it to JAT, why the hell do you do that as mafia?

Well I mean according to JAT (and technically he IS right, I COULD very well do that as either alignment because I am very self aware of my meta---I just don't think it's scum-indicative) that doesn't change anything.


I'm not saying it's impossible. I don't know your alignment. But it's far more likely as mafia you are more reserved about your voting intentions on JAT. Your pissing contest with KSC and JAT over the last page feels towny. Really, I don't even know why.

I still think it's scummy to have come in the thread, and blindly sheep a person for reasons you don't even agree with / haven't read. I think player flips will be telling on your alignment.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 17:41 GMT
#1437
On August 28 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
so wave you still just want to lynch JAT because palmar said so?

Now I am convinced you are only asking me these questions to piss me off because once again, that question was lready answered very very recently.

I don't understand why you feel the need to be such a dick, but it's cool. Let me know when you decide to start playing the game for real.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:41 GMT
#1438
On August 28 2015 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
so wave you still just want to lynch JAT because palmar said so?

Now I am convinced you are only asking me these questions to piss me off because once again, that question was lready answered very very recently.

I don't understand why you feel the need to be such a dick, but it's cool. Let me know when you decide to start playing the game for real.


ok I didn't see you answer, so yes or no?
Zerg for Life
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 17:45 GMT
#1439
On August 28 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I still want to resolve JAT/Trfel. I feel that one is a scum wagon and one is a town. Highly unlikely it's both town or both mafia.

And why do you say this?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 17:45 GMT
#1440
Again reasonable questions

I don't understand why you changed your read on CC, your explanation is woefully inadequate

I still don't understand what you want to do with JAT, you made a big post that concluded nothing , apparently this is like you being 100% town in your own words, but I want a TLDR version of it.
Zerg for Life
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