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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#919
On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.

Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?
Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why.

I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait.

MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.

Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 26 2015 23:28 GMT
#922
On August 27 2015 08:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 08:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.

Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?
Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why.

I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait.

MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.

Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?
Okay, I'll explain it in more detail.

Hopeless1der generally doesn't play the game as scum. He doesn't play all that much as town, but even less as scum.

This game, he said he'd actually play, and then he confirmed. And then he vanished.

After rolling scum last game and not doing much, if he rolled scum again this game, I would expect even less.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

We will see about hopeless. In my experience he is one of the easier reads in this game. Good night.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:35 GMT
#969
On August 27 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 08:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Poking people with sticks isn't very nice. Throwing stones is also an action I would deem quite hostile.
Seems pretty scummy to me.
Justanothertownie, please explain this post.

How is not balantly obvious to you that it is a joke?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:35 GMT
#970
*blatantly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:39 GMT
#972
On August 27 2015 11:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me

Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind.


I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today.

So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads.


It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol

Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?

-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.


I agree there was / is no real case on him, but JAT's reaction to the pressure is pretty horrible because he isn't doing anything productive. I figure if he were townie he'd shrug off the pressure and just give his reads. Right? I think mafia have a higher propensity to get angry about being scumread. I also wanted to see his reaction to me flipping on him. His reaction was thus:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 06:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 06:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JAT I need your top scumread. I could lynch you because I think you are being objectively scummy by sulking that Palmar is being a meanie pants. So if you're town please brush yourself off and behind anew like a phoenix rising from it's ashes. Produce all that content that others are not providing.

Haha, you are a funny one. Weren't you the guy harddefending me earlier? And now you want to lynch me for being "objectively scummy" even though I wasn't even in the thread since then? It's midnight, I am drunk and I have to get up early tomorrow. If you think I will put any serious effort in right now you are delusional.


It's part incorrect, part weird since he liked my posts about Wave. I also asked him nicely to be productive and rise from his ashes.

To the bolded: No, this is not how this works.

And please explain what exactly is incorrect? What is weird about it? My exact point is that your posts look too good to come from town CC which sounds stupid but is still pretty logical. I have no idea how you could see a contradiction there if you actually read what I said about you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:41 GMT
#973
On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?

If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:45 GMT
#975
On August 27 2015 17:42 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?

If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.
It doesn't make sense to me as a serious post.

But it doesn't make sense to me as a joke, either. At all.

I need another opinion.

I bet you do. It must be incredibly important to you to figure out if that post is in fact a joke or not.
Almost as important as talking about Palmars opinion on marv when both hadn't done anything and weren't even there.
Almost as useful as pushing the guy that didn't post even once so far. What was it that you thought makes this scummy btw.?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:52 GMT
#977
On August 27 2015 17:50 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:42 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?

If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.
It doesn't make sense to me as a serious post.

But it doesn't make sense to me as a joke, either. At all.

I need another opinion.

I bet you do. It must be incredibly important to you to figure out if that post is in fact a joke or not.
Almost as important as talking about Palmars opinion on marv when both hadn't done anything and weren't even there.
Almost as useful as pushing the guy that didn't post even once so far. What was it that you thought makes this scummy btw.?
I just don't understand your stance on rsoultin and Palmar over the course of the game. You keep accusing them of things that would strongly suggest that they are scum, and then call them probably town. Which makes no logical sense (if you think they're town, there's no reason to keep pointing out things and accusing them of being scummy).

Though I can see it coming from town, it just annoys me for some reason? And makes it hard for me to not scumread you.

Never in this game did I call them scummy at all. I called them dumb and I said that what they are doing is antitown which is both true if they are town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 08:54 GMT
#978
On August 27 2015 17:50 Trfel wrote:
Though I can see it coming from town, it just annoys me for some reason? And makes it hard for me to not scumread you.

This is bullshit btw. You read both of them town, right? So if I can identifie the same even though they are pushing on me without any reason that makes it "hard for you not to scumread me" somehow? That is something that REALLY doesn't make any sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 09:05 GMT
#983
##Vote: Trfel
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 09:19 GMT
#984
Adding to the things I already DID say about Trfel:

He clearly isn't reading and/or understanding my posts and comes to completely incorrect conclusions which alone is not a scumtell but he is pretty strongly indicating that he thinks I am mafia as a result of it.
But he is too afraid to vote me. He votes the no post guy instead.

He is not addressing the posts I made about him or CC directly but instead dismissing them entirely giving really weak reasoning for disagreeing with them.

FOR EXAMPLE: He said I cannot say that CCs posts are too clean if I disagree with some of his reads. Well if he was actually willing to try and analyse the posts I made about CC he would have noticed that I am primarily talking about CCs read on myself. Yet that is something Trfel completely ignores in his whole analysis.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 09:24 GMT
#985
On August 27 2015 18:02 Trfel wrote:
And yes, I do? Because I'm obviously town?

And I have a very hard time believing this can be genuine. There is no way Trfel can think he was towny enough for Palmar to call him confirmed town when he did. This lacks any towny paranoia and feels like he just said it because he thought a townie should answer like this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 09:39 GMT
#992
On August 27 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
##Vote: Trfel

Worst player TL.

Speak for yourself.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 09:41 GMT
#996
On August 27 2015 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 27 2015 18:39 Palmar wrote:
Like please don't do that if you're town marv. I'm trying to get in the groove of just saying fuck it and hard town reading you if I have no reason to call you mafia, but you're actively trying to create reasons for me to call you mafia.

no, you're actively being really shit.

You are pretty late to notice this. He has done nothing else all game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:02 GMT
#1013
On August 27 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:38 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
Really don't like Trfel's rsoultin read.

I think rsoultin really is "obviously town", unlike the person claiming that he is.

You're making me really paranoid about you by even entertaining the notion Trfel is mafia.

i don't care.

you've just been shit all game.

No, I've provided a ton of reads and opinions that are very valuable for town.

You don't get to call me shit when you've just been fencesitting the whole thing and now you're taking the wrong side.

no you haven't. you've been shit.

explain yourself. don't just say what i'm saying is all wrong, explain to me why a town Trfel who knows rsoultin very well isn't townreading an obviously town rsoultin

stop throwing shit like a dickhead

be useful

for once in your pathetic existence.

Maybe I'm just mad that he got called out for complete bs by mulitple people and I'm putting too strong of a townread on him because I hate it when people get called out for something they shouldn't be called out for.

Oh god the irony is killing me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:10 GMT
#1022
On August 27 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:38 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
Really don't like Trfel's rsoultin read.

I think rsoultin really is "obviously town", unlike the person claiming that he is.

You're making me really paranoid about you by even entertaining the notion Trfel is mafia.

i don't care.

you've just been shit all game.

No, I've provided a ton of reads and opinions that are very valuable for town.

You don't get to call me shit when you've just been fencesitting the whole thing and now you're taking the wrong side.

no you haven't. you've been shit.

explain yourself. don't just say what i'm saying is all wrong, explain to me why a town Trfel who knows rsoultin very well isn't townreading an obviously town rsoultin

stop throwing shit like a dickhead

be useful

for once in your pathetic existence.

Maybe I'm just mad that he got called out for complete bs by mulitple people and I'm putting too strong of a townread on him because I hate it when people get called out for something they shouldn't be called out for.

Oh god the irony is killing me.

I'm going to be very upfront with you right now.

If rsoultin thinks i'm making something out of nothing with Trfel, and she is still fairly convinced you are mafia by EoD, I'm very likely to follow her and vote to lynch you, because i haven't got enough to tell me to do otherwise.

And I'm saying this now so you can get your shouting at me out the way, because that's how it's likely to turn out unless your posting on your birthday miraculously changes enough for me to read you town

I am not going to shout at you.
But I have seriously no idea why 1) you give rsoultin so much credit (I can somewhat see it on her Trfel read but not on myself), 2) you would lynch me even though you do not have a reason to think I am mafia because you know it is an objectively bad play to do this day1 3) why you think I could be mafia in the first place.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:13 GMT
#1028
So, I will be upfront with you right now marv:

If I get mislynched today then I will be angry with rsoultin and Palmar if they are town because they acted retardedly and made me not want to play this game while jerking off about their incorrect and stupid read on me. But if people need to mislynch me once before they realize that this is not the way to figure out my alignment then so be it. I have no motivation to put up with this shit today.

I will not be angry with you because you have been reasonable all game. That you aren't able to read me correctly is just very disappointing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:14 GMT
#1031
On August 27 2015 19:12 Palmar wrote:
The cool thing is JAT hard townreads me. It'd be so much more annoying if he actually scumread me.

Hardtownread is a little much and you haven't done anything productive in ages. But I still wouldn't lynch you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:16 GMT
#1035
On August 27 2015 19:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:13 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I will be upfront with you right now marv:

If I get mislynched today then I will be angry with rsoultin and Palmar if they are town because they acted retardedly and made me not want to play this game while jerking off about their incorrect and stupid read on me. But if people need to mislynch me once before they realize that this is not the way to figure out my alignment then so be it. I have no motivation to put up with this shit today.

I will not be angry with you because you have been reasonable all game. That you aren't able to read me correctly is just very disappointing.

Disappointing is like the worst emotion ever

Well, then shape up and read me correctly so you don't disappoint me. It's that easy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
August 27 2015 10:17 GMT
#1037
On August 27 2015 19:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:13 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I will be upfront with you right now marv:

If I get mislynched today then I will be angry with rsoultin and Palmar if they are town because they acted retardedly and made me not want to play this game while jerking off about their incorrect and stupid read on me. But if people need to mislynch me once before they realize that this is not the way to figure out my alignment then so be it. I have no motivation to put up with this shit today.

I will not be angry with you because you have been reasonable all game. That you aren't able to read me correctly is just very disappointing.

YOU ARE JERKING OFF ABOUT AN INCORRECT AND STUPID READ ON TRFEL SO FUCK YOU BRO

1) You do not know if it is incorrect or not.
2) Unlike you I haven't acted like an asshole about it all game.
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