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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 19:49 GMT
#1532
On August 28 2015 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote:
Can anyone tell me when Wave started to scumread CC since his big early post cause I can't find that, between that and the vanishing of that scumread I only see "thoughts on cc pls", "not impressed by your case, CC" but not really a tangible reason for a read switch town -> scum

On August 27 2015 10:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:47 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG PEOPLE

I'm not voting JAT, that's the important thing.


does anyone else find this post weird by VE?
I don't find it weird?

Why do you?


It's really stupid. When he posted it in the thread --in the moment-- it felt like VE knew that JAT was town, and he was attempting to appeal to town by assuring them he wasn't voting him. Either that or he just didn't want to justify his position on JAT and wanted to put an end to the questioning. Looking back, it doesn't look like that. I was curious if anyone else had felt it


Why doesn't it look like that? To me it looks like VE did put an end to the questioning actually, by saying "whatevs i wont vote him" so scenario 2 seems fitting, not stupid. I don't think that's alignment indicative but for you it would be?

Oh wait a minute.
I forgot to comment on this.
When you posted this I HADN'T started to scumread CC.
Where did you get this from?


You asked people to look at him and said something about not impressed about his case, so I thought it was the case from reading between the lines.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 19:52 GMT
#1534
On August 28 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
When does day end again.


It's in the votecounts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 19:55 GMT
#1542
On August 28 2015 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote:
Can anyone tell me when Wave started to scumread CC since his big early post cause I can't find that, between that and the vanishing of that scumread I only see "thoughts on cc pls", "not impressed by your case, CC" but not really a tangible reason for a read switch town -> scum

On August 27 2015 10:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:47 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG PEOPLE

I'm not voting JAT, that's the important thing.


does anyone else find this post weird by VE?
I don't find it weird?

Why do you?


It's really stupid. When he posted it in the thread --in the moment-- it felt like VE knew that JAT was town, and he was attempting to appeal to town by assuring them he wasn't voting him. Either that or he just didn't want to justify his position on JAT and wanted to put an end to the questioning. Looking back, it doesn't look like that. I was curious if anyone else had felt it


Why doesn't it look like that? To me it looks like VE did put an end to the questioning actually, by saying "whatevs i wont vote him" so scenario 2 seems fitting, not stupid. I don't think that's alignment indicative but for you it would be?

Oh wait a minute.
I forgot to comment on this.
When you posted this I HADN'T started to scumread CC.
Where did you get this from?


You asked people to look at him and said something about not impressed about his case, so I thought it was the case from reading between the lines.

I think all I literally said there is 'not impressed' and then commented on nitpicking.
Not quite sure where you got the scumread from, and from your posting you seem to suspect me pretty heavily starting from there...?


Typically I'll ask people to look at my scumreads, not my townreads and if a TR of mine posts a case on me I won't spend time on mocking him and just keep doing my thing instead.

So doesn't make much sense to me that you would act that way about a TR of yours.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:01 GMT
#1555
On August 28 2015 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote:
Can anyone tell me when Wave started to scumread CC since his big early post cause I can't find that, between that and the vanishing of that scumread I only see "thoughts on cc pls", "not impressed by your case, CC" but not really a tangible reason for a read switch town -> scum

On August 27 2015 10:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:47 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG PEOPLE

I'm not voting JAT, that's the important thing.


does anyone else find this post weird by VE?
I don't find it weird?

Why do you?


It's really stupid. When he posted it in the thread --in the moment-- it felt like VE knew that JAT was town, and he was attempting to appeal to town by assuring them he wasn't voting him. Either that or he just didn't want to justify his position on JAT and wanted to put an end to the questioning. Looking back, it doesn't look like that. I was curious if anyone else had felt it


Why doesn't it look like that? To me it looks like VE did put an end to the questioning actually, by saying "whatevs i wont vote him" so scenario 2 seems fitting, not stupid. I don't think that's alignment indicative but for you it would be?

Oh wait a minute.
I forgot to comment on this.
When you posted this I HADN'T started to scumread CC.
Where did you get this from?


You asked people to look at him and said something about not impressed about his case, so I thought it was the case from reading between the lines.

I think all I literally said there is 'not impressed' and then commented on nitpicking.
Not quite sure where you got the scumread from, and from your posting you seem to suspect me pretty heavily starting from there...?


Typically I'll ask people to look at my scumreads, not my townreads and if a TR of mine posts a case on me I won't spend time on mocking him and just keep doing my thing instead.

So doesn't make much sense to me that you would act that way about a TR of yours.

Who did I ask to look at CC?


On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.

Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:03 GMT
#1560
On August 28 2015 05:01 marvellosity wrote:
the thing is, although him promising to play doesn't look good for hopeless, he really is so bloody hopeless that he might do it as town too


He was like that in storm as well (as mafia), I don't know why he signs up for games tbh.

In fact Trfel suddenly voting him out of all the options gives me the flashbacks. They were teammates in that game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:14 GMT
#1566
Another reason for lynching Trfel:

On August 27 2015 17:59 Trfel wrote:
Reads from Trfel!

+ Show Spoiler [Pointless Fluff] +
Yes, the section of my post marked "Pointless Fluff" is entirely necessary. You must read it.



I've been listening to this song a lot over the past few days. I like it a lot.



This one too. They're good songs, listen to them. It'll improve your scumhunting.

Anyway, I'm kind of sad that I'm mostly able to play when most people are sleeping. How boring. So I'll just make a fancy list post.


Town

Palmar + Show Spoiler +
I don't have a very good record of reading Palmar in the past. But I'm still pretty confident that Palmar is town here for the way he's been driven and focused. He's provided insightful comments and I like his push on justanothertownie. His tone also feels relaxed. I know this doesn't make him town, as he is capable of having a relaxed tone as mafia, but in this game his tone is most natural when he's giving reads on (arguably) harder-to-read players, which feels much harder to fake than normal relaxed tone.

marvellosity + Show Spoiler +
Marvellosity is definitely capable of tricking me, but I feel he's likely town here. If he isn't, it should be more clear in a few days, anyway.

Marvellosity feels more driven here than as mafia in Assassination Mafia, where he played well enough to avoid being lynched and have some thread presence, but was not above suspicion. Given how much he enjoys playing mafia, I wouldn't really expect him to increase his effort compared to that game.



Town Lean

MoosyDoosy + Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb


The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good

at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty"

Yeah this. I don't really see much on JAT. If he's mafia, he'll still be mafia later in the day anyway. I think we should focus on Trfel rite now.
On August 26 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb


The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good

at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty"

Yeah this. I don't really see much on JAT. If he's mafia, he'll still be mafia later in the day anyway. I think we should focus on Trfel rite now.


truffle's probably town with the stipulation that he didn't make me laugh :/

I'd still like an answer to why he asked for an opinion on marv when there was literally almost nothing that marv had posted. I feel like it's getting punted to the side while people are trying to kill JAT.
These posts don't really make sense. Why does he want to talk about me (Trfel), when all he wants is an answer to my question? That's not something he can get while I'm not present. He seems to realize that discussing me at this time doesn't help with anything, and doesn't mention me for quite some time.

I don't find his interactions with WaveofShadow scummy.

But this post:
On August 26 2015 23:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 23:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy you never substantiated on your wave!town read

His willingness to call out rsoul and his direct manner when he posts. tone reads basically
is all wrong. The majority of WaveofShadow's posts at this point were jokes. He never called rsoultin out, and jokes can't really be seen as having a direct manner. The only things he directly committed to are finding scum and voting for marvellosity (which clearly wasn't a hard commitment, as expected). This post doesn't make much sense. I would like an explanation from MoosyDoosy (tone doesn't align with direct manner and calling out rsoultin when the posts are jokes).

Tone seems very relaxed and seems to show a town mindset.

In general, his thought process and reads match and are sensible.

KelsierSC + Show Spoiler +
The downside is that KelsierSC is quite good as mafia. He showed this in Gaiden 1.

I like his questioning to MoosyDoosy about his townread of WaveofShadow, but he drops it before reaching a real conclusion based on this.

I'm fine with this read for now, anyway.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I'm sleepy.

A lot of it's tone, and I don't feel like his reads are too constructed/clean/correct. Though this is a weak read.


Null

rsoultin + Show Spoiler +
I refuse to be wrong on rsoultin. I can accomplish that by not giving a read.

(Plus I'm sleepy, basically always think rsoultin is town, and don't think that rsoultin is a good lynch today even if I found a few things that made me suspicious)



Mafia Lean

VisceraEyes + Show Spoiler +
First he votes for WaveofShadow, and then decides to change his vote to MoosyDoosy based on how MoosyDoosy kept talking to WaveofShadow.
On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I filtered Moosy, and the reason I thought he was one of the Wave pushers is because of the sheer number of times he mentions Wave's name, but it's in the context of "I want to hear from Wave" or "Game so hard w/o Wave" etc.

Based on this, I think it's actually more likely that Wave is town and Moosy is like, appealing to him or something. Trying to slip him in his pocket. Only problem with that is that he and Wave are like, TLLOLOTDT buddies, so it's not unreasonable to think that he's doing this as town....I just get a really bad feeling off Moosy.

The flip on marv. Ummmmmm.....I can see that from a mafia perspective. Especially if he's not super aware of Marv's meta, maybe his partners were like "WHOA BUDDY, BETTER TURN THAT SHIT AROUND" after he posted about lynching marv. Marv's right though, in a vacuum it seems townie.

Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
This isn't a convincing case at all. VisceraEyes starts out by saying that he thinks that MoosyDoosy is pocketing WaveofShadow, but this is reasonable from town, but he gets a bad feeling anyway. Then he says that he can see something that can be considered towny may be able to come from a mafia perspective. And then he says it's better than voting for someone who is AFK.

Which results in a vote on MoosyDoosy.

VisceraEyes doesn't seem convinced by his own case. And he's downplaying his earlier vote on WaveofShadow, which felt really out of place anyway.

I don't understand why he voted for WaveofShadow in the first place. The strength he places in his WaveofShadow read seems to vary a lot:
On August 27 2015 00:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:04 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:01 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh I think JAT is town and Palmar can lick a [redacted] lamppost in wintertime.

WHO IS MAFIA THEN EINSTEIN?

I kinda like the Wave sentiment. FMP, the people hanging in the background not taking a side on the issue are the suspicious ones with regard to the whole JAT thing.

name names, babe

^ do this though.

##Vote: WaveofShadow

Beyond that, Moosy is kinda not taking a side, which I find super strange, and there are several people who have yet to even post.
On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
[case on MoosyDoosy]

Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
On August 27 2015 00:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't like Wave's entrance, worst in the thread besides marv's. Then he disappeared which I find to be extremely out of character for Wave. I'm interested to hear why you think I'm focusing around him so much though, I've spent WAY more posts trying to oppose a JAT lynch and appealing to marv and Palmar.
On August 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs

Yeh that was a very good one.
One of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Marv do you not think that VE has similar cohones to me in that he does not fear taking you/Palmar on as scum?
I don't think Palmar's OMGUS has any particular true reason behind it but I don't think VE is ruled out.

Wait wait wait, have you even READ my posts? I've had nearly an IDENTICAL thought process as you have based on your posts, and you're not ruling me out? Are you fucking mafia Wave?!?!?


VisceraEyes transitions from voting for WaveofShadow to seemingly being surprised and not having considered that WaveofShadow could be mafia.

Hopeless1der + Show Spoiler +
He generally doesn't play as mafia. He was mafia last game, didn't play, and died. This game, he said he would play, confirmed, and then hasn't posted anything yet.

justanothertownie + Show Spoiler +
Not going to repeat everything that's been mentioned about him.

But I find it very hard to get a read on him because it seems like justanothertownie is a player who is very self-confident and prides himself in always being right. Thus, when people disagree with him and push him all game, I can see him getting caught up arguing with them when it clearly isn't going anywhere, I can see him constantly insulting and throwing scum on people he later says are probably town, I can see him sort of playing like this.

In the end, I'm torn. I think that his play is objectively bad, but I'm not sure if that makes him scum here.

The biggest problem I have with him is that he simply isn't pushing his reads. Here's justanothertownie's filter with only the read progression (only including the main scum reads, excluding all of the stuff to rsoultin/Palmar due to previously mentioned reasons)
  • On August 26 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:
    Yeah? I would like to know what's the point of this when marv had done absolutely nothing at that point in time:
    Show nested quote +
    On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote:
    Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity.

    He goes on to explain this several more times, and say that it is the best thing mentioned in the thread.
  • On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
    Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.

  • On August 27 2015 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:
    Currently I would look for scum between WoS, Trfel, Moosy and possibly CC between the people that have posted a little.
    Why MoosyDoosy? (not throwing suspicion, actually wondering, and a note to self (that I probably will forget about) to look into this)
  • On August 27 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On August 27 2015 02:22 Palmar wrote:
    On August 27 2015 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:
    Well, I am leaving now. It is wednesday and wednesday night is pubquiz time. Maybe I will return for a short while later, maybe I won't. Can make any promises about tomorrows activity since it is my birthday.

    When I return I will flat out ignore any further bullshit brought up against me unless I think it is alignment indicative.

    Currently I would look for scum between WoS, Trfel, Moosy and possibly CC between the people that have posted a little.

    Explain exactly why you think CC is mafia.

    He is a little too correct I think. Very very clean posts.
    This is interesting, because this is the opposite impression I got from Mr. Cheesecake at this time. When later questioned on this, justanothertownie used an example that happened after this post was made.

    Between the start of the game and this post, Mr. Cheesecake said the following (abbreviated):
    + Show Spoiler +
    Rsoultin is town for tone
    MoosyDoosy is town for claiming VT
    Palmar and marvellosity are probably town
    KelsierSC is probably mafia
    Justanothertownie is probably town
    Goes back a little on his reason to townread justanothertownie

    I'm labeling this list very subjectively. Strikethrough reads are reads that are easy to make (meaning that they are low risk reads for mafia, in that they won't have repercussions and likely won't be questioned later, or are just obvious). Red reads are reads that justanothertownie disagreed with.

    Assuming that justanothertownie thinks that his own reads are correct, Mr. Cheesecake didn't actually make any reads that are significant that aligned with his own, except for saying that justanothertownie is town.

    I don't see how justanothertownie sees Mr. Cheesecake's posts here as being clean or accurate.
And that's all that I see.

What I don't see is an actual push. He's said the same point about me (Trfel) many times (saying it's one of the best things in the thread), and people have disagreed. But he hasn't said much about the rest of my play. He hasn't commented on a single thing I've done being towny, but he doesn't seem convinced that anything I've done outside of that one post makes me scum.

I don't see him really pushing WaveofShadow, either. He said that WaveofShadow might be the first mafia joining the push [on himself], but never said more (other than agreeing with Mr. Cheesecake's posts about him).

Justanothertownie hasn't seemed very motivated at trying to convince people or push one of his scumreads. He hasn't even voted yet.

It almost feels like he's too frustrated to lead an actual push himself, and is throwing some suspicion and waiting to vote with whatever people like. Which is a mafia-motivated mindset.


Not making much progress on WaveofShadow, going to just go to bed. I don't really feel like I want to lynch justanothertownie right now, though that could change.

Also, it's funny how nicely my reads list matches the player list XD


On August 28 2015 03:29 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Shenanigans lynch Vivax boys

##Vote: Vivax
Hm, okay.

##vote Vivax


He sheeped his town lean over marv/Palmar on his scumlean, and he didn't even mention me previously. He had a total of 3 options here and he chose to vote for me on a whim without even mentioning me in his big post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:25 GMT
#1572
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?page=67#1329

My decision to include wave into the lynchables isn't just cause of a "narrative" (good way to call an assumption I made which you initially didn't answer), but also cause of above's post.

This is still the biggest problem I have with Wave. He talks about anything besides me but votes me. We will see later that this is a reoccurring theme.


Which is also one of the reasons Trfel is mafia.

On August 28 2015 05:17 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, what exactly is the game you're referring to with hopeless?


Trfel posted a link to it as well, tropical storm mini. We lynched hopeless D1 or 2 I think, then Trfel, then rso conceded.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:27 GMT
#1576
On August 28 2015 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
weird as shit scummy weird as shit?
or weird as shit vivax weird as shit

I don't know.

Like, if Vivax is scum then he purposefully creates this narrative where I'm scum who flipflops an imaginary read on CC?
WHy else does he call me scum in this game again

On August 28 2015 04:37 Vivax wrote:
I don't really feel this jat wagon, plus it's his birthday. His list of lynchables is pretty much exactly where I'm at (Trfel/WoS/Mr CC), rest feels like policy (I would add BF to that) but that's never a bad shot on D1.

What's alarming is that the leaders of Jat's wagon aren't really here to reconsider with all this new information, I'm especially expecting Palmar to reconsider things, given marv's timing of the vote I'd expect him to be quite sure about his decision already, so I'm curious on that front too.

I feel like Trfel has been really stiff in his play so far, contrary to the things he did as town like claiming scum at SoD he has been feeling very artificial this game. Palmar for some reason believes he's town, I want to see it.


##Vote Trfel

I think this is the only post where he mentions he could lynch nme and it seems to be solely for that reason.

marv you read vivax better than me. i dunno

Marv doesn't read Vivax particularly well.

Well what do you think?

He is on my list. Before he started intentionally worsening his townplay I would have been confident that he is scum here. This way I don't know either.

When did he do this?

Also BF is now taunting us to lynch him.


I did this for two games in a really accentuated manner, then I just proceeded to lower my activity for the first half of D1 in most games. Since then I've been able to not take off like a rocket since the start on D1 without getting lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:29 GMT
#1579
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
right vivax, but he actually posted there :/


3 or 4 posts when I was pushing ruxxar yeh, then maybe some minimalistic posts at EoD. Doesn't seem much different from this game, he's even being dickish in both. The problem is I still can't tell for sure what he is, I have always hated the way he plays, if you can call it that way.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:32 GMT
#1582
On August 28 2015 04:34 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 28 2015 04:33 boxerfred wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote:
##vote justanothertownie

^
You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game.

I received a PM that reminded me of voting, you're the wagon, have no time until tomorrow.


well you're here now and you are being a fucking retard


Where's kelsier? He's just wasting his vote atm.

Same as CC. A lot of talk but little behind it if his best option is to attempt shenannies on me and then take his leave.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:33 GMT
#1585
On August 28 2015 05:32 deconduo wrote:
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On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible

Well, or one of them is scum.
(or both lol)


Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell.


Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:37 GMT
#1600
On August 28 2015 05:33 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 28 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
lol that's a pretty horrid votecount @.@

The most horrid thing about it is you vote.


be still

i haven't read and i imagine you finally did shit or people wouldn't be flailing like madmen

on that note, i'm not feeling a vivax lynch today ^^ hi vivax


Hi!

You're not scumreading Trfel at the moment, right?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:38 GMT
#1603
On August 28 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 28 2015 05:33 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:32 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible

Well, or one of them is scum.
(or both lol)


Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell.


Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him.


not lynching truffle

second target?


ninjad.

In fact I hoped you'd answer this cause it probably means the truffle is mafia given you've been wrong on each other in the last games I remember you having opposite alignments in.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:39 GMT
#1606
Assuming you're town in the intention of not reading your filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:44 GMT
#1617
On August 28 2015 05:41 KelsierSC wrote:
JAt isn't the lynch i don't understand votes still on him

I think hopeless is a good lynch , boxerfred is fine too

decon seemed ok when he came in but his weird taunting of JAT and mindless questions means i'd be ok lynching him
rsoultin why aren't we lynching vivax?


The question is why would you given that I'm actually starting to play now.

I've been arguing with the guy you're voting for and what I've read so far is more or less "fuck BF" and "why not vivax", so that makes me question what's behind your WoS scumread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:52 GMT
#1623
On August 28 2015 05:45 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 28 2015 05:44 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:41 KelsierSC wrote:
JAt isn't the lynch i don't understand votes still on him

I think hopeless is a good lynch , boxerfred is fine too

decon seemed ok when he came in but his weird taunting of JAT and mindless questions means i'd be ok lynching him
rsoultin why aren't we lynching vivax?


The question is why would you given that I'm actually starting to play now.

I've been arguing with the guy you're voting for and what I've read so far is more or less "fuck BF" and "why not vivax", so that makes me question what's behind your WoS scumread.


i was asking rsoultin because she apparently has a good read on you and I don't

none of that has any relevance to my WoS scumread at all but nice job


The relevance is that right now there's basically no wagon to speak of and I figured you'd be more interested in getting people to consolidate, or do that yourself than to ask about a read on me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:54 GMT
#1624
I'm also tempted to sheep Palmar and lynch him if he's wrong, but not doing that before I see him re-evaluating after jat posted reads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 20:58 GMT
#1630
Decon what happened to your Trfel read?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 21:11 GMT
#1657
Moosy explain the CC vote pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 27 2015 21:21 GMT
#1677
On August 28 2015 06:16 rsoultin wrote:
okay okay okay

everyone give three people they'd lynch and if you're super adamant sell your lynch

boxerfred for the really weird one read out in the stratosphere + being completely useless beyond what he ever is as town

hopeless mostly just for consolidation sake cause i'm really not sure he couldn't do this as town, though condor has a point on the whole rng...reads a large portion of the thread...then sticks to rng vote without giving much on his read through

and cc (partially poe, partially on a whim given guts and a half-scanned post from jat lol ><)


Boxer isn't voting and if he ninjavotes he's an easy catch on D2.

Hopeless feels like a shot in the dark.

CC I would have lynched, I think Jat summed it up nicely AND the fact he seems to have his reads sorted out but then resorts to shenannies on me, however the thing from moosy he brought up and the way moosy unlurked and started going nuts gives me pause on this. I'd like that sorted out soon.
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