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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 12:36 GMT
#2314
On August 25 2015 21:32 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:52 Fidei86 wrote:
The issue I have with this game is that there are only four people left (me, Rels, JJ and TT) that actually seem to be playing the game from a townie perspective. Literally everyone else clearly has some sort of anti-town or town-indifferent agenda.

I'm not sure if it makes the game better or worse, but it makes it a million times more annoying.


I nuked mafia?

Yeah, you're in the town pile too. I recognised that I'd left you off the list, but didn't want to spam-erino. Clearly that ship has now sailed.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 13:48 GMT
#2321
On August 25 2015 22:42 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

I just alignment checked geript and he is town.


This is a serious game of Mafia.

[image loading]
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 13:55 GMT
#2322
Ugh.............

Okay. I was so happy about this game yesterday, but it is now really starting to get draining.

Geript, why are you voting for Kelsier.

JJ, what the hell are you on about.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:25 GMT
#2351
Re Damdred, it depends whether his 3P role is in competition with town and mafia. I think he's basically confirmed 3P though, unless there is a mafia power that allows people to pointlessly recruit people to the "House of Brown"?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:26 GMT
#2352
He helped town on the EOD2 lynch, fwiw.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:41 GMT
#2357
Well, yeah. I've been pretty sure that Obi is mafia for a while, but I'll need to put a filter dive and read together later.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:50 GMT
#2363
On August 26 2015 01:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 01:41 Fidei86 wrote:
Well, yeah. I've been pretty sure that Obi is mafia for a while, but I'll need to put a filter dive and read together later.


I might nuke you for being bad instead tbh.

Can we all agree that this post betrays an extremely anti-town agenda / way of thinking? Ritoky has said extremely similar things as well. Like, if I'm town, which basically everyone thinks I am (and which I am, lol) you want me to survive. You may find me frustrating, but if you're playing to your win condition, you shouldn't want to kill me. All you're doing here is soft scumming me, and that's literally a classic mafia play.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:52 GMT
#2365
On August 26 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
The game actually isn't that bad.

Listen to what you said, you worried my win condition had to do with helping town find and kill mafia... And that was a reason to nuke me. If that was my win on which it isn't why would town obi worry about that if its enhancing his win on?

we have a potential rolecop in ff or ksc.

ritoky did something out of character by shooting yam over chez imo.

so games not in a bad spit

This isn't meant in a mean way, but I do wish you could stop speaking in riddles. I'm not saying what you're writing isn't clear, just that I'm struggling to follow it Can you elaborate please?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:55 GMT
#2368
On August 26 2015 01:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeh but maybe he's not actually a survivor.
Maybe there's some kind of motivation for him to lynch mafia instead of do nothing.


Okay so I reread this post, and I think that Damdred's post is a little clearer now.

If Damdred's win condition is to help us find and lynch mafia, then why the hell would town want him dead? He is actually a strong player and his actions at EOD 2 show that. I can't conceive of a 3P who would want to kill all the mafia and then would be able to win against town?

The only thing that crosses my mind -- and it is crazy -- is perhaps becoming part of "House Brown" means that if we're the only ones left at the end of the game with damdred, he can kill us and be the last person standing? Is that insane? Because short of that, I'm cool with Damdred achieving his win condition, as long as town reach ours as well.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 16:57 GMT
#2369
On August 26 2015 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 01:50 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 26 2015 01:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 26 2015 01:41 Fidei86 wrote:
Well, yeah. I've been pretty sure that Obi is mafia for a while, but I'll need to put a filter dive and read together later.


I might nuke you for being bad instead tbh.

Can we all agree that this post betrays an extremely anti-town agenda / way of thinking? Ritoky has said extremely similar things as well. Like, if I'm town, which basically everyone thinks I am (and which I am, lol) you want me to survive. You may find me frustrating, but if you're playing to your win condition, you shouldn't want to kill me. All you're doing here is soft scumming me, and that's literally a classic mafia play.


I'm not scumming you at all.
I'm calling you stupid and I want to nuke you for making me angry.


I learned from Himalayas that there are two types of angry players - those who are genuinely aggrieved and those who are faking it because they are mafia. It is an absolutely classic mafia tell to massively overreact when someone accuses you, and to get more frustrated than seems proportionate. Like, I'm saying I think you're scum. Is it even remotely possible that a true town player says he wants to kill another town player for having a scum read on them? Seriously?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#2371
On August 26 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote:
Yeah that post was what I was referring to basically.

but yeah post makes no sense to me and is...interesting.

If you are familiar with the house of brown its a day of thinking and belonging to the house means you think/share common goals to an extent. The great one is the founder obviously.

life and love.


Town clearly aren't zero-sum with Damdred, at least not yet. His actions in helping town make me think that he's trying to push the game as late as possible. That, in turn, makes me think that the whole "house of brown" thing relates to people who are alive at the end

Frankly, if town lynch all Mafia and then "lose" to some stupid rule that throws the game to Damdred, I'm still taking that as a moral victory. So, yeah. No nukerino Damdred.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 18:38 GMT
#2390
Eh, I'm not sure why I'm trying to convince someone I think is mafia from nuking someone who isn't town.

Go ahead, Obi.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 08:47 GMT
#2558
On August 26 2015 15:50 Rels wrote:
Lt check on damdred is not believable for me. Fidei confirmed damdred to be 3p so it was useless.
Lt claim to be vt is not believable for me. We all have abilities outside of nuke. Seems like a mafia not knowing what to claim.
Wasn't convinced by his reads too.

I agree with Rels, and I agree with TT. This game is only going to make sense once we know all the roles etc, but for now I see no reason to move off LT. All the posts overnight were basically ritoky et al shit fighting with Chezinu and Damdred. I don't view that as helpful because Chez is obviously lynch bait at this point, on account of him having played so poorly. Him and Onegu are more similar than they'd care to imagine.

TT I agree on JJ - he seems to have really fallen off recently :-/
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 08:48 GMT
#2560
On August 26 2015 17:47 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 14:29 geript wrote:
On August 26 2015 14:14 Breshke wrote:
I think we lynch LT and hope that his role explains something to happen with the checks and the obi nukes whoever seems to be lying.

If it doesn't settle anything im kind of being a bitch about who i want to lynch. FF's claim feels shitier and that kinda makes me think he is townier? I feel like he could have come up with a better claim as mafia. So i would be more for killing KSC.

Geript if you could keep chez alive for the rest of the game would you?

If I could get a townread on Chez, absolutely.

Like i get it. There's the voting thing in the back of my mind (re: LT voting on yamato). The not doing anything for the most part for two days. Plus I had an early scum read on him; and those reads tend to be more correct for me. But the thing is, when you have 2 players who are basically doing nothing, it literally takes nothing to bus. It's easy and buys you time. Plus, the ending votes make me think that maybe it's a scum vs 3p lynch, which makes me want to lynch 3p.

IDK maybe I'm just bad this game, but I really struggle to see that I coudl be having that off of a game.


Like i could anti nuke chez but I kind of want to elave it up to you because I know even if i tried really hard I can't read him for shit and would trust your read more. (also if you are scum then fuck the like 7 greens on you)

But if i do anti nuke him the only way its not a horrible play is if everyone agrees to like never lynch him.


I think it's the right play. He's not contributing anything and he's giving scum an avenue to push. At best, he's distracting town. And there's always the chance he's Mafia.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 08:50 GMT
#2561
On August 26 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote:
I think i fucked up fairly bad, Should have been no nukes today. Should have lynched LT and seen what was up because if LT is mafia i feel like it is unlikely chez is because yeah people bus but do they try kill their teammates idk

Can you fire nukes at night? Cause yeh, waiting for the lynch might have been better. I still sort of think it's an okay play though.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 08:52 GMT
#2562
Also, if Chez flips town investigative role I think it confirms ritoky as a liar and therefore scum (no reason for town Chez to fake a claim). And since nobody is listening to my amazing tone/meta read on him, we seem to need a little more.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 08:59 GMT
#2564
The really confusing thing for me is that none of the people outside of the town-circle seem to be pro-actively pushing any of the other ones. By that, I'm talking about ritoky, OWS, LT and FF. They're all just meandering around, prodding Damdred and Chezinu and KSC and what not. Yeah, Chez or KSC *could* be mafia, for sure. But they're easy targets.

But not all of those four can be mafia. So I don't get it.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 09:53 GMT
#2577
On August 26 2015 18:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 18:39 Tictock wrote:
KSC is pretty clearly town imo.

Would love to see a town case on him.

+
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 11:03 GMT
#2587
On August 26 2015 19:53 Rels wrote:
So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip

This. I think I've made my feelings on KSC's approach to the game pretty clear, so I won't re-hash old ground. But ... yeah. If he's town, I'm not sure it's because of anything he has really said or done.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 11:28 GMT
#2589
On August 26 2015 20:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 19:29 Chezinu wrote:
Save the Chez!

Nuke the Fez!

I know I shoudn't have expected you to answer my interrogation.

You must be starting to feel like the last sane man in the asylum (I already do...)
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