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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 00:27 GMT
#2182
Bed now. Night all.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 08:29 GMT
#2240
What is SK?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 08:34 GMT
#2242
Ugh.
This game.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 08:40 GMT
#2243
@Rels do you think it would be possible to compile a list of all nukes, claimed or otherwise, all claimed roles, all claimed checks and everything else? I feel like we've had so much more stuff going on than a usual game that I can't keep up.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:41 GMT
#2274
Did anyone think to ask FF why he checked geript after we already had a check from KSC? Doesn't that seem a bit of a waste to anyone? Wouldn't it be better for him to have checked KSC?

@ritoky are you forced to vote for your RNG target, or is it optional?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:45 GMT
#2275
Checks
FF: WOS green N1, geript green N2, LT no result N2.
Bill Muray: Breshke green D2.
KSC: geript green N1, LT red N2.


Can anyone think of a mechanic that makes FF and KSC's checks on LT N2 compatible? FF can't have been roleblocked, because then he wouldn't get either check result. LT can't be jailed or unvisitable or whatever, because KSC claims to have a result. The whole issue of fake checks doesn't apply, since LT was 'no resulted'.

Am I missing something?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:46 GMT
#2276
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:48 GMT
#2278
On August 25 2015 18:48 Rels wrote:
I hate that we have to ask Chez his check. Plus he didn't answer my question. As I say, no patience to play the interrogation game, you speak or you don't. Hope it's not a broken nuke going for him.

Yeah, I'm pretty much on this as well. Whatever his alignment, it's pretty clearly not town.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:53 GMT
#2282
On August 25 2015 18:50 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:48 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:48 Rels wrote:
I hate that we have to ask Chez his check. Plus he didn't answer my question. As I say, no patience to play the interrogation game, you speak or you don't. Hope it's not a broken nuke going for him.

Yeah, I'm pretty much on this as well. Whatever his alignment, it's pretty clearly not town.

Not all town have the same win con!

Just no. All town must have the primary win condition of, you know, winning v mafia. If you have secondary conditions or whatever, then you're choosing to prioritise yourself over the team, which means you're a shitty team mate. But I think it's 1,000,000% more likely that you're either some sort of random 3P role, or you're mafia. Either way, I care not for your excuses.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:56 GMT
#2283
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So you checked Yam? The same guy whose only contribution to the game was to beg people not to nuke you?

???

This game.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:57 GMT
#2284
On August 25 2015 18:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:45 Fidei86 wrote:
Checks
FF: WOS green N1, geript green N2, LT no result N2.
Bill Muray: Breshke green D2.
KSC: geript green N1, LT red N2.


Can anyone think of a mechanic that makes FF and KSC's checks on LT N2 compatible? FF can't have been roleblocked, because then he wouldn't get either check result. LT can't be jailed or unvisitable or whatever, because KSC claims to have a result. The whole issue of fake checks doesn't apply, since LT was 'no resulted'.

Am I missing something?

No. One of them is 99% mafia, and we will know which one after the flip.

Why do we lynch LT though, with that logic? I'm not sure that either result helps us work out FF's alignment. Sorry if I'm being dense ... :-\
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:07 GMT
#2286
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:32 GMT
#2289
On August 25 2015 19:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?

I don't understand why you say it is unresolved.
KSC claimed a red LT check. If LT is 3P, KSC is lying. If LT is town, he may be framed or KSC is lying.
FF claimed a "no result" check. If LT is town, FF is lying. If LT is mafia, FF is lying. If LT is 3P, FF tells the truth (could still be mafia).

So. If LT is:
Town: FF is lying for sure. Maybe KSC too.
3P: KSC is lying for sure.
Mafia: FF is lying for sure.

Ah okay. The bit I was missing was the 3P returning no check. I thought you only got that with roleblocks, etc. Carry on.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:52 GMT
#2297
The issue I have with this game is that there are only four people left (me, Rels, JJ and TT) that actually seem to be playing the game from a townie perspective. Literally everyone else clearly has some sort of anti-town or town-indifferent agenda.

I'm not sure if it makes the game better or worse, but it makes it a million times more annoying.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:54 GMT
#2299
On August 25 2015 19:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do

So you thought KSC was lying.
But you didn't think anything about Damdred.
And you didn't think about checking KSC to check both KSC and geript.
Willing to lynch you tomorrow even if LT is 3P. No mafia rolecap flipped yet.

This makes no sense. If you think KSC is lying you check KSC every time.

I would rather lynch FF than LT, but I'm happy to sheep the town circle, if you all are set on LT.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#2302
On August 25 2015 20:13 Damdred wrote:
The easiest explanation tbh for why ff ignores my save but questions the check is that he knows mafia shot aylt geript while they don't know if a check is fake based on being hard to believe.

I don't follow. Can you restate in terms my addled brain can undestand?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 11:34 GMT
#2306
Cool, thanks.

Since I have you on, can I ask what your read on ritoky is?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 11:47 GMT
#2308
Okay so is your condition that you can't give reads? Because that obviously isn't helpful. If you are a 3P survivor who recruits into house brown for no purpose, then I don't see why you can't also help town?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 11:55 GMT
#2311
On August 25 2015 20:48 Rels wrote:
Still think LT is the best lynch though.

1
Give us at least one confirmed mafia between KSC and FF.

2
3 "check rayn" posts, who turned out to be a PGO.

3
Sheeping a lynch on me with no reasonning D2.

4
Leaving but not being truly AFK (2 posts after his "bye" post) and not switching to rayn with others.

5
Nuking Chez when he said he would nuke the second town wagon.

I'm sold.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 12:36 GMT
#2313
On August 25 2015 20:55 Damdred wrote:
Uhhh you put a post inbetween my two posts my newb.. And I was reading eitokys filter.

I'm torn on him tbh, and I'm curious why he shot Yamato over chez when chez anti nuked his nuke I think.

Vesides that I think hr has town things and scum things going on and meta is crap this game tbh but meaning town.

You were "torn" on him in gaiden, and you were mafia and he was town. You were sure about him in Holy Guardians, and you were right and you were both town.

You're completely correct that shooting Yamato, in the circumstances was dumb. We'd already more or less cleared all three wagons of being mafia. He also did it without reason. The only thing that makes me question whether it was really mafia aligned was that Yamato was still probably lynchbait? Except, meh, I probably wouldn't have voted for him again, and I doubt the town circle would have either. Also he (Yam) was being so useless that he (rit) couldn't have been accused of hindering town with the shot. As it turns out, he (rit) didn't help mafia or town.

Meh.

I'd also like to know what people think about purportedly town ritoky surviving this long into a game and having been totally wrong about all of the lynches and mafia, even when newb dumb players such as myself worked out that the Rels/Yamato/Me wagons were all full of crap. Am I the only one who is a fanboy for his town play? Or am I wildly overestimating him?
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