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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 23 2015 22:14 GMT
#1917
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 23 2015 22:31 GMT
#1948
Hey Rels, why *did* you switch?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:11 GMT
#1971
On August 24 2015 10:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


gotta start rethinking the game, starting from this.


I see no world in which the Rayn wagon isn't pure, unless maybe Rels is Mafia as well? The whole thing was organised with about five minutes to go. Even one of them not switching means that Mafia can consolidate onto Rels and take the kill. But even that doesn't really make sense, because Yamato was a much easier target than Rayn, so a Mafia Rela just moves people in that direction. Unless Yamato is also Mafia, but I don't see a world where that is possible.

So, yeah. I don't see a world where two of us don't die tonight. If we have any protective roles, I think it should be obvious where to aim them.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:15 GMT
#1973
On August 24 2015 10:09 ritoky wrote:
at MOST there's 1 mafia in the rayn lynch most likely. but that's tinfoil for a much later date, so for now i am just going to assume they are all town. which makes those look like this:

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


so the list of possible mafia is:
obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato
ff
kels

i was assuming ff and kels (and will continue to for now) are both town cuz of the stuff that messes with their vote. so that list becomes:

obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato

of which i think obi is the most town.


Can you please remind me why Geript, BM and Bres are confirmed town? BM's green check on Bres could be fake? And Geript?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:15 GMT
#1975
On August 24 2015 10:12 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:11 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:01 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


gotta start rethinking the game, starting from this.


I see no world in which the Rayn wagon isn't pure, unless maybe Rels is Mafia as well? The whole thing was organised with about five minutes to go. Even one of them not switching means that Mafia can consolidate onto Rels and take the kill. But even that doesn't really make sense, because Yamato was a much easier target than Rayn, so a Mafia Rela just moves people in that direction. Unless Yamato is also Mafia, but I don't see a world where that is possible.

So, yeah. I don't see a world where two of us don't die tonight. If we have any protective roles, I think it should be obvious where to aim them.


you missed a post there


Great minds think alike.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:28 GMT
#1981
On August 24 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
Also geript and HTS both hard townread me so i dont think I let my mafia team kill them

A great woman (rsoult) once told me not to get too much into the NK WIFOM. Hts and WoS' reads are just as valuable to you if they're dead. Maybe more so, because then you could ride the cred home.

I'm not saying you're Mafia, just that it's nowhere near as strong evidence as the last minute shenanigans we just pulled off onto Mafia.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:32 GMT
#1987
I'm phone posting now, but there was this one post where ritoky and Obi had an interaction which made me sure that if I was right on Ritoky, Obi would be scum with him as well. I'll dig it out tomorrow. But yeah, I think a scum team of ritoky, Tube, Rayn and OWS makes all sorts of sense.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:33 GMT
#1990
On August 24 2015 10:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:28 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
Also geript and HTS both hard townread me so i dont think I let my mafia team kill them

A great woman (rsoult) once told me not to get too much into the NK WIFOM. Hts and WoS' reads are just as valuable to you if they're dead. Maybe more so, because then you could ride the cred home.

I'm not saying you're Mafia, just that it's nowhere near as strong evidence as the last minute shenanigans we just pulled off onto Mafia.


i mean....do you think BM is not a day cop? cuz i think so even to the extent where i would call him nearly mod confirmed. which makes breshke a near mod confirmed green check....that's pretty fucking convincing.


I choose not to take account of what the mods do. We aren't supposed to be influenced by what they do or don't do, and trying to guess whether what they did was because of someone's alignment is a fools errand.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:37 GMT
#1992
On August 24 2015 10:33 ritoky wrote:
fidei really making me want to go against my better judgment and shoot him -.-

please explain to me what the townie motivation is for this post.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:39 GMT
#1993
On August 24 2015 10:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:33 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:30 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:28 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
Also geript and HTS both hard townread me so i dont think I let my mafia team kill them

A great woman (rsoult) once told me not to get too much into the NK WIFOM. Hts and WoS' reads are just as valuable to you if they're dead. Maybe more so, because then you could ride the cred home.

I'm not saying you're Mafia, just that it's nowhere near as strong evidence as the last minute shenanigans we just pulled off onto Mafia.


i mean....do you think BM is not a day cop? cuz i think so even to the extent where i would call him nearly mod confirmed. which makes breshke a near mod confirmed green check....that's pretty fucking convincing.


I choose not to take account of what the mods do. We aren't supposed to be influenced by what they do or don't do, and trying to guess whether what they did was because of someone's alignment is a fools errand.


That is only part of it. Why would a mafia claim his name when explicitly it is against the rules, especially when under 0 pressure?


Why would town? It was a mistake. Reading too much into a name claim, in a game where name claims are not allowed for ALL ALIGNMENTS is dumb. BM has confirmed to everyone that he didn't read the rules for the game before joining. Nothing else.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:43 GMT
#1997
On August 24 2015 10:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:37 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 10:33 ritoky wrote:
fidei really making me want to go against my better judgment and shoot him -.-

please explain to me what the townie motivation is for this post.


i am telling you that you need to reorient your mafia list with me out of it because i fulfilled my upgrade by rng voting 2 days in a row

no you aren't, you're soft scumming me and that's dumb. If you think I'm town and have bad reads, you tell me I have bad reads. But what you're doing is trying to get people to doubt me, without actually saying you think I'm Mafia.

Sure, you didn't have a vote at eod, but you did nothing to try and get the votes off Rels or Yamato. You're a really good town player, and the best move that town has pulled off happened in spite of you, not because of you. Honestly, that says everything for me. But if you think I'm wrong, then you need to show me with some like real analysis. Everything you've put out post lynch is full of holes.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:44 GMT
#1998
Town ritoky, from what little I know of him, is calm, doubting and insanely insightful. You've displayed none of these traits so far.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:45 GMT
#1999
Anyway, we've probably spent enough time cluttering up the thread. I'm sure you'll have a riposte and I'll read it carefully, but tomorrow.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 01:50 GMT
#2001
I was PMed after the deadline to say that I had been recruited into the "House of Brown". And I received a welcome message from Damdred.

I didn't post this straight away because I wanted to check my alignment hadn't changed, and it hasn't. So, yeah. Not entirely sure what it means, but I figured it might mean something to someone in town.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 08:38 GMT
#2021
yeah, tomorrow is going to be boring while we lynch Tube. I don't see any reason whatsoever not to lynch him.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 09:14 GMT
#2026
So I'm fairly sure I'm right on ritoky, and a lot of my read on FF stemmed from the long post ritoky wrote on FF (which was out of the blue, and the tone made me think they weren't on the same team). But apart from that, the most interesting thing about his read list was that it was all lurkers, except for scumming ritoky. Scum reading lurkers is super easy for mafia to do.

On the off chance that ritoky ISN'T mafia, for whatever reason, then that only makes FF look worse IMO. I'll go back over his filter if I get the chance at lunch. At the moment he's obviously quite far below the obvious town circle (town circle high five!), but I would lynch all the lurkers, Tube, ritoky and OWS before him.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 09:22 GMT
#2027
On August 23 2015 11:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2015 10:55 ritoky wrote:
On August 23 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
anyone wanna make a list post or something we can talk about?


i nominate you

would kill:
BM
KelsierSC
Ritoky
Chezinu
yamato77

would kill but probably shouldn't:
Damdred
fidei86

town reads:
fuck it

Okay mafia > work.

This is the list post I was talking about. He does get town points for *saying* he would switch onto rayn (which had a momentum effect upon the lynch), but he then actually said he wanted to vote me. Scum reading me doesn't make him mafia, obviously.

His filter is a mix of some meh, some okay. He hasn't really driven town anywhere, but I don't think he's been a massive hindrance either. I think null is the safest place for him, and honestly there are at least four better targets (OWS, Tube, rit, KSC) than him, and that's not taking into account the case on Lord Tolkien, which I haven't really given much thought to yet.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 09:59 GMT
#2030
You mean you're null on me?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 10:24 GMT
#2034
On August 24 2015 19:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 18:59 Fidei86 wrote:
You mean you're null on me?

No :p you have a null on ff like me
You are conf town

Ah cool. I was about to be sad about getting scum-read by one of my town-circle homies.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 24 2015 10:38 GMT
#2035
On August 24 2015 19:16 Bill Murray wrote:
i voted for feast
so you can't be null on me
how do you read me?

I'm null on you. My reasoning is that you replaced in and you haven't said much that really grabbed my attention, AND there have been much more pressing things to sort out. I know, I know, that's not an excuse. I'll read your filter this evening or when I get a chance.
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