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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2015 04:13 GMT
#701
On August 20 2015 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 13:08 geript wrote:
Sure. And ruxxar has the longest filter and has proven to say stupid shit as town. It's not a very high odds flip. He's a much better check than a lynch.


Okay I suppose.
I'll switch to Tube. I'm a bit more wait-and-see with yam because I'm still expecting him to deliver something towny.

I expect absolutely nothing from yamato.
Shoot him tonight.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 04:16 GMT
#702
On August 20 2015 13:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 20 2015 13:08 geript wrote:
Sure. And ruxxar has the longest filter and has proven to say stupid shit as town. It's not a very high odds flip. He's a much better check than a lynch.


Okay I suppose.
I'll switch to Tube. I'm a bit more wait-and-see with yam because I'm still expecting him to deliver something towny.

I expect absolutely nothing from yamato.
Shoot him tonight.


rofl
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2015 04:16 GMT
#703
@geript why is fidei town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 20 2015 04:18 GMT
#704
On August 20 2015 13:03 geript wrote:
ATTENTION!!! If you aren't voting for for one of these people, then you're doing it wrong. Only people on the following list will be lynched on D1. Personally I have a preference for Rels, HtS, Chez, Yam or Kelsier. Overall, those are the strongest players and are effectively being completely useless. The fact that this list contains so many people is a major issue because that means no one cares about this game in general.

[image loading]
Heh I wish I could take a bulldozer to half the player list. But not with this bulldozer. I don't trust him. Look at those shifty eyes.

On August 20 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
In any case as I said I'm not really after you today. The gifs are annoying though.


[image loading]

Excellent! I've got a double dose just for you.

On August 20 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Reads on Chez and Rels...I've never seen Chez play a game for reals right from the start before. No idea how to read that.
Rels is barely playing, how to YOU read him?


I think geript made a decent point about chezinu a bit earlier. He has fallen off the map since then, so it's tough to say more until he returns.

For rels, he had a weird interaction with ticktock early on in the game. It came off unnecessarily aggressive:
"I thought that was clear though maybe it's too complex for you."

Which could be possibly an attempt at scum-to-scum conversation. Maybe I'm thinking too far into that though. His strong opinion on fidel is redeeming for his townyness.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 20 2015 04:18 GMT
#705
idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2015 04:20 GMT
#706
On August 20 2015 12:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 11:58 ritoky wrote:
@FF: What do you make of fidei town reading breshke for questioning my method of RNG, but not mentioning it about you and subsequently scum reading you?

I think he has no idea how to claw his way out with such a bad start.


I really like the tone of this response, but it doesn't exactly match play. I take it you think fid is a mafia lean at least, but haven't really pressured him?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2015 04:21 GMT
#707
On August 20 2015 13:18 geript wrote:
idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all.


On August 20 2015 11:58 ritoky wrote:
@FF: What do you make of fidei town reading breshke for questioning my method of RNG, but not mentioning it about you and subsequently scum reading you?


You don't find this scummy?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 04:24 GMT
#708
On August 20 2015 13:18 geript wrote:
idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all.


Always an excellent plan.

Btw these SG combos and stuff look mega hard to pull off with a keyboard lol.
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 20 2015 04:26 GMT
#709
On August 20 2015 13:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 13:18 geript wrote:
idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all.


Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 11:58 ritoky wrote:
@FF: What do you make of fidei town reading breshke for questioning my method of RNG, but not mentioning it about you and subsequently scum reading you?


You don't find this scummy?

Inconsistencies aren't inherently scummy or towny. Like a better argument for him being scum is how over explainy and how often he qualifies his reads like people care.

If you can make a good case on him, then I'm all ears. But nothing what you've posted so far makes me want to lynch him especially over people who have put for zero effort whatsoever.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2015 04:35 GMT
#710
On August 20 2015 13:20 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 12:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 20 2015 11:58 ritoky wrote:
@FF: What do you make of fidei town reading breshke for questioning my method of RNG, but not mentioning it about you and subsequently scum reading you?

I think he has no idea how to claw his way out with such a bad start.


I really like the tone of this response, but it doesn't exactly match play. I take it you think fid is a mafia lean at least, but haven't really pressured him?

Yeah taht describes it pretty well. I did respond to his accusation that I made up the fact that scum was spewing me town but I don't think he nresponded to that.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2015 04:35 GMT
#711
On August 20 2015 13:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 13:18 geript wrote:
idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all.


Always an excellent plan.

Btw these SG combos and stuff look mega hard to pull off with a keyboard lol.

There was a guy who showed up to my local tournies we'd have for SG in vancouver. He used a keyboard and CLEANED HOUSE with parasoul+peacock
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#712
Here's why I didn't like ruxxar. Even ignoring who he was trying to imitate, his posts (at least the opening ones I quoted) were saying a lot about nothing. There was one post I remember he kept saying meta over again....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=18#345

And I specifically questioned that post because LS either on his own or either when asked further to elaborate (and this I did) on meta reads, usually fleshes it out. Here ruXxar spammed whatever and didn't answer my question.

Now if you (geript) want to lynch a higher percentage player, I did review a couple of the people that were sheeping me.

First Lord Tolkien.

I have zero clue how Lord Tolkien plays, he says jack all about ruXxar and then said he'd sheep me, so I don't know if ruXxar should be town, he's falling into the "sheeping for bad reasons" category (particularly since he says he likes shitposting - how does my shitposting in of itself make me town, that train of thought is confusing from him) and on a separate note I did not like his opening post voting VA.

Also I don't understand (unless I misunderstand his post) why he likes me and ruxxar but he'd sheep me on voting ruxxar.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=18#345

On August 20 2015 05:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 04:59 ritoky wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I am not inclined to believe a META read at this juncture of the game.

I mostly find that individual read to be non-alignment indicative for either, and mostly a trend; outside of Chez opposing a standard BH RNG lynch, there's nothing that stands out without relying on copious amounts of meta of him, which I don't have. As for geript...he's continuing to post some of the strangest speculation ever.

Like.
On August 19 2015 08:10 geript wrote:
Maybe I wrong on wave and Breshke is rayn. Idk. Either way there's like an 80% chance that Blazinghand is a mafia pm. So we should lynch him.

He's trying to not only to speculatively figure out personality roles based on meta AND THEN lynch based off META from there.

uuuuuuuuhhhhh


Mostly inclined to NOLYNCH him D1 based solely on activity (would still zero in on Vayne for not responding to my incredibly airtight case, but I have accepted a challonge). But have mostly discounted everything he said.


Who are some people you have said things that you have not discounted, and what were those things? (outside of VA obv)

Wait what. Can you rephrase that.


You said geript has said a bunch of unmemorable shit, who has said memorable shit and what is it? Preferably alignment indicative memorable shit.

lets see. Besides that geript mostly makes me think he's town (probably) because despite posting questionable speculative shit, i greatly enjoy the shitposting...mostly you, HtS, and Fidel. Oh and ruXxar, but that's mostly because he challenged me and i must accept. Judge Judy mostly amuses me but doesn't ping on my radar because #smurfbois and obvious D1 shenanies.

In order.

You: BH RNG lynch parody amuses me greatly; also you're asking questions and trying to talk to people. Ruling as town/DO NOT D1 LYNCHERINO

HtS: For obvious reasons. I will probably sheep her today.

Fidel: i eagerly await his srs face.


I also have out of game meta shit that makes me think wave's probably town..


I also don't know where he gets strange speculation from geript's posting in one of his opening posts. From Gaiden I know geript has some methodology on reading Damdred, so that's not strange to me. And as for Chez I can't read him no matter what, last game I had with him I was mafia he was town and his posting still made my head spin >_< Meh.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#713
And Rels, when I first scumread ruXxar, I thought he was town initially based on the mindmeld effect. I can definitely see the argument for him being scum, at least based on meta, he's way more forward, the post quality and content is higher, granted his style - if he's in another character - reminds me of SOMEONE but I can't remember who that someone is. Rels did give me reads on ritoky, and Fidei but that followup post was pretty sparse in content. However, and this is a BIG however, I don't believe Rels and Fidei have played together - Rels point on Fidei's long post being scummy (not his list post, but the one he posted before that makes sense for a player who has never played with Fidei and appears to be using his opening posts for part of that basis.

To me that makes sense based on my play with Fidei in NSM12, and with the list post provided I am pretty sure Fidei is town. Rels COULD be scum but I want to see more from him before I lynch him over ruXxar or even Lord for that instance.

Yamato's scum meta is doing jack all, so I understand and would be fine with a vote on him.

Beneather is pure policy for me at this point.

If I had to switch my vote now I'd switch it to Lord Tolkien, but let me look through a few more filters before I have to head to work, 6:50am here in Munich so I have some time...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#714
Almost caught up, but I just had to respond to this post as I'm reading.

On August 20 2015 13:02 JudgeJudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 12:46 Breshke wrote:
Judge can we talk about your scumread on me? Can you explain it for me please? Is it just that you think i was trying to misrepresent ritoky about the RNG thing?


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 12:50 Breshke wrote:
SO YES I AM SAYING HE LIED ABOUT HOW HE RNG'D OR HE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE FIDEL.

Do i have a reason why he chose fidel? No. But from what he has said i don't see how he could have rng'd him.


[image loading]

Sure, you decided to discuss the topic of whether or not ritoky RNG'd his target based on some imaginary "coefficient of stupidness" or whatever it was called and concluded that he was a liar or was specifically targeting fidel. You then made little attempt to interpret your conclusions. The first point you made is meaningless by itself. Is he lying because he is mafia and using rng as a scapegoat for providing actual reads? Is he specifically targeting fidel for an easy mislynch? You don't really touch on that stuff at all.

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On August 19 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:
Not to say his following read on fidel is bad but I don't wanna talk about that until fidel has been around some more


And then there is stuff like this. You don't comment on the actual read on fidel, but instead go after the rng discussion. Now that fidel has actually posted that giant list of reads, you still haven't talked about him and instead want to defend yourself against my suspicions or something, which doesn't equate to any scum hunting on your part.

Why aren't you talking about fidel or your suspicions?


First off, 10/10 for that Gif. LMAO. Like what was that lady expecting? Then at the end she's looking at the hammer like "Why did you do that?" Pure quality

Second off, I really like this explanation for your Bre read. However I kinda disagree that Bre is scum for this. To me the whole line of questioning about the RNG seemed like Bre breaking out of his role to investigate something that wasn't adding up to him. This kind of poking and prodding while waiting for responses and reactions to come to conclusions is what I've come to expect from Bre. I'm leaning town on him for that.

And thirdly, I accept the promotion on the grounds that it will triple my pay. Also as your Anger Management therapist, I'd like to notify you that you've been showing very little anger this game. Please adjust this so I have an excuse reasons to beat you in the name of medical science.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 20 2015 04:51 GMT
#715
On August 20 2015 13:04 geript wrote:
I forgot, plus ticktock.


No, you didn't. But thanks for the special shoutout post.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:57 GMT
#716
Damdred is probably worth a DT check (null in my book atm). He's in heavy roleplay mode, and if he is who I think he is (Chez? Kurumi?), his posting is going to make my head spin all game, Chez's posting is confusing to begin with.

Tubesock for me falls in the not memorable category but here's what bothers me most about his filter:

On August 19 2015 14:32 Tubesock wrote:
Chez, Breshke townpile.

Ritoky and Damdred probs town. I can't blame them for being bad roleplayers. The BH's RNG is easy enough to research that I think mafia would go the extra distance to copy it and avoid scrutiny. If anything he's null.

I didn't like Tictock's entrance or posts but it's cause he reminds me of Trfel.

Shining you going to lay a trap or what?

*postgame cred hilarity - Chez and Fecalfeast are actually partners and scumming Damdred for Chezinu Rule continuity. Trolly troll trolls from trollerville.


On August 19 2015 14:36 Tubesock wrote:
You still scum Damdred?

What do you think of Tictock?


How Tube goes from town to scum on Damdred I'm just quite unclear. That is in the span of four minutes - 0732 and 0736 CEST respectively. But that is pretty scummy.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 20 2015 05:03 GMT
#717
I'd also like to note that people (mostly looking at geript, but also rit and a few others) who are trying to associate role/personality with alignment are being retarded.

Just because you have identified the role/personality that someone received does not mean you've narrowed down their alignment just because of what alignment you THINK that personality SHOULD be associated with.

This is honestly as bad as trying to apply the meta of the personality somebody received to the person playing that personality in this game.

As such I disregard all reads based on these types of reasoning.

I do find it a bit interesting (though probably NAI) that both geript and rit believe that their personalities imply a scum role. Interesting for what that says about how they think of themselves.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 20 2015 05:11 GMT
#718
Damdred can you address the questions I raised for you in this post please?

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2015 19:05 Tictock wrote:
Damdred I'm having a hard time understanding where your head is at this game.

This is what I'm talking about mostly:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
There once was a man named Damdred, he moved outside town one day and never turned back.

Monsters everywhere red blue and black. The hangman noose he feared the most all,he wanted was his friends but who would,be his friend? Would it be you or maybe you?
Would geript be,his friend?

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:31 Damdred wrote:
Wave is scary, his,face reminds me of what I saw when I looked under my bed. What friend will protect me? Who will be my friend?


Where is this fear and desire for friends and protection coming from? I can tell from some of your other posts that you are fairly comfortable posting like Chez
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
Announcement, Announcement

A grand shipment has just arrived at the bank of Brown!
Come quickly while we are still in stock for your troll items! All it requires is a deposit of 3 cheznoozs!




So on the one hand you are posting in a sorta friendly/trolly/confusing way that Chez often does but on the other you seem to have this clear fear and need protection. This seems to me like you think people will scumread you for posting like chez, or to be more precise that you feel like people SHOULD scumread you for posting like that and this is making you nervous.

Also I really don't like this post.
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 09:13 Damdred wrote:
The one who's name start with an f heart is as pure as a morning dew on the ground. A breath of air from an island.

He has never witnessed the,beauty of,DAMDRED and is amazed and cannot,fathom what is happening around him, obvious friend.


What makes Fidei a friend? He basically ignored you



Specifically:
Why do you feel the need for friends and protection this game?
Why did you call Fidei a friend? (I assume that means your townreading him)

Thus far your play looks like you are useing the Chez role as an excuse to post nonsense, and not even Chez level nonsense that invokes reactions or has subtle clues hidden in between the line just regular. You are not taking risks nor are you giving much in the way of reads. Seems pretty scummy to me.
I can take that responsibility.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2015 05:15 GMT
#719
On August 20 2015 14:03 Tictock wrote:
I'd also like to note that people (mostly looking at geript, but also rit and a few others) who are trying to associate role/personality with alignment are being retarded.

Just because you have identified the role/personality that someone received does not mean you've narrowed down their alignment just because of what alignment you THINK that personality SHOULD be associated with.

This is honestly as bad as trying to apply the meta of the personality somebody received to the person playing that personality in this game.

As such I disregard all reads based on these types of reasoning.

I do find it a bit interesting (though probably NAI) that both geript and rit believe that their personalities imply a scum role. Interesting for what that says about how they think of themselves.

lol on this note I bet whoever has me is scum and is lurking because they don't know what else I'm capable of.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 05:16 GMT
#720
Read through WoS' filter. Pretty sure he's town.

And I have to go to work. I'll look through more stuff during lunchtime. I'd say at this point top three lynches for me at this point are ruXxar, Lord, Tubesock.

I'd be fine to compromise on Yamato, and as stated, Beneather is pure policy.
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