Here is where I'm at with this game in case I get killed off.

Mafia
Tubesock - I'm hoping the nuke takes care of him tonight. A lot of my reads are based on the assumption that he flips mafia, so if he is town I would probably have to do a complete re-read. The fact that he showed up way late in the cycle yesterday to try to save rayn makes me feel less worried he might flip green.

Yamato77 - Promises to contribute to help town, fails to do so. Randomly shoots down one of the nukes aimed at chezinu. Votes for himself. Maybe rayn had the stronger mafia role and yamato wanted to keep the pgo alive for a detective or vig snipe?

Lord Tolkien - Repeatedly asks for people to visit the mafia pgo at night. Ends up on the Rels lynch, even though he talks about how rayn could be mafia. Seems like he wants to save tube at one point, but wants town's permission to do so: "I'm prob the last town antinuke, so I need to decide if I should block shining"

Scummy Null

Ritoky - Claims a rng role which is fine, but then proceeds to push the rng'd players as if he has no other choice. I would think a town player would vote for their forced rng targets, then push other people for the actual lynch. His night two posts seemed rather reasonable on the other hand. So I have bumped him down from the straight scum pile.

Chezinu - This guy has nine lives. Something weird is going on with the yamato and chezinu. chezinu has an anti-nuke, but doesn't fire it to save himself from LT's nuke. Then yamato shows up with two minutes and saves him. I'm really, really confused about this right now. At the same time, I don't LT + yamato + chez makes a ton of sense unless they are trying to WIFOM their way to victory.

KelsierSC - meh

Third Party
Damdred - Survivor claim

Town
JudgeJudy
The Shining
Tictock
Fidei86
Rels

I don't think it's likely, but if one of the individuals that lynched rayn were to flip mafia I suppose it might maaaaybe be Rels if it were a scum vs scum type of scenario, but I'd say that would be like less than 5% odds of happening.

geript - Green checked by BM. Generally townie aside from check.

Breshke - Green checked by Kel (If I remember correctly). Nuked tube who will likely flip scum.

Townish Null
Fecalfeast
ObiWanShinobi
Bill Murray

These guys haven't done too much that strikes me as odd. I would want to lynch the peeps under the scum and scummy null categories before them.

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 01:35 GMT

#2185

lolol I'm not sure who is worse, yamato for failing get to lynched when up against a mafia wagon or rayn for getting lynched over the jester :D

ggs to the dead peeps!

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 02:22 GMT

#2191

On August 25 2015 09:57 geript wrote:
We've flipped a watcher and a cop. Why do we expect a second cop?

Well typically mafia don't make a 1:1 trade with a cop check. Either the cop check is true and we lynch LT or the cop check is false and we lynch LT first anyways and then probably kel the next day. It could be a scum kel who knows that LT is going to get lynched anyways, but even in that scenario we lynch LT first.

What we need to decide is whether or not there was a framer involved. He would probably be a good target for mafia to frame, but I tend to think he is already mafia due to the other stuff like pointing people to the pgo and the tube comment I mentioned earlier.

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 13:42 GMT

#2320

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

I just alignment checked geript and he is town.

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 14:39 GMT

#2338

Yeah I agree. I don't really see a situation where it makes sense to lynch KSC before LT. Even if he is lying about the check, its probably because they are scum buddies, rather than KSC taking a 1:1 trade to ensure a townie LT would get lynched, who was almost certainly getting killed today or tomorrow anyways.

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 14:53 GMT

#2340

On August 25 2015 23:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
God the mkx netcode pisses me off.
It's so bad.
SO BAD.

Maybe my anger management therapist Tictock can give you a beating to make you feel better?

I think I've let him down a bit since there hasn't been much to get worked up about so far this game

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 16:20 GMT

#2349

On August 26 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How about I just nuke Damdred?

Why?

He promised me toys!

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 20:10 GMT

#2430

geript, can you ask hts a question that only she would know the answer to in order to confirm her identity?

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 25 2015 20:30 GMT

#2441

On August 26 2015 05:12 geript wrote:
But like, idk why it even matters. I'm pretty sure Damdred is survivor. I'm pretty sure it's not HtS. And I'm pretty sure mafia are telling us who 3P is. So i kinda don't care because it's a pretty insane play for mafia to make.

How long have you had access to this qt? Was this death qt initiated by you or did you randomly receive the qt as a night action?

Is their writing style comparable to any other player in the game? Do the timestamps from the qt suggest a certain timezone that the player is awake? Have they posted any other information of interest?

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 26 2015 13:21 GMT

#2641

On August 26 2015 13:46 Tictock wrote:
If there is in fact an SK this game it would lead me to think that there are in fact only 3 mafia.

Three seems way off in my opinion, especially in an all blue game. At the start of the game I looked at a few other setups of this size just so we would have an idea of what we were dealing with and it looks to be around twice that number. For instance, in onegu's most recent theme game there were 6 mafia and 1 serial killer in a 22 player game (this game has 21). Survivor doesn't really impact things one way or the other, but the jester is mafia favored so I'd say that could probably take the slot of the serial killer, which is a more neutral third party role, which would mean either 6 mafia and 1 jester or maybe 5 mafia, 1 jester and 1 serial killer.

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 26 2015 13:33 GMT

#2644

On August 26 2015 14:12 Tictock wrote:
Honestly is there is any mafia who were on the Rayn wagon it would be JJ. His vote on rayn only happened one rayn was for sure being lynched.

lol rayn wasn't "for sure" being lynched when I voted. At the time it was a tie at 5-5 (Though I had no idea of the count because so many votes were flying in during the last 5 minutes....and even less idea who had reached critical mass first and would hold the tiebreaker). When tube showed up out of nowhere to vote Rels, he obviously thought he could save rayn. Then KSC unvoted too and I moved over to rayn, which turned out to be the hammer on rayn after Rels moved to yamato (which I obviously couldn't have predicted at the time).

On August 26 2015 17:47 Fidei86 wrote:
TT I agree on JJ - he seems to have really fallen off recently :-/

Ehh I was sick most of yesterday and slept like 14 hours. I'm feeling a bit better today, but I think I've earned a 24 hour pass

On August 26 2015 20:40 Tictock wrote:
Should JJ die because she's a mean boss?

BACK TO WORK!

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 26 2015 13:42 GMT

#2646

On August 26 2015 22:23 Chezinu wrote:

Show nested quote +

WHAT ARE YOU DOING!??!?!?! THERE IS A PERFECTLY RELEVANT GIF YOU CAN BE USING!!!

MY GIFS ARE ALWAYS PERFECTLY RELEVANT!.

It's a jester, who shares a striking resemblance with yamato!

For the record, if I had an anti-nuke I would totally save you, if only for speaking in koshi quotes the whole game. I actually thought about that, but I figured nobody would pick up on it, which seems to be what happened with you

JudgeJudy

188 Posts

August 26 2015 14:22 GMT

#2655

^^ (Get it? Lynch or lose? I'm so funny) ^^

TT's comment about lylo does make me a bit paranoid because I didn't really consider that we could be so close. If we assume nine town remaining, four mafia , 1 survivor (who would prefer to work with town, but would vote with mafia if it guaranteed a win at lylo) and zero serial killers

Rels
Fidei86
Breshke
geript
Damdred
JudgeJudy
ObiWanShinobi
Ritoky
Tictock
Fecalfeastt
Lord Tolkien
Chezinu
KelsierSC

I doubt both LT and chez are both mafia since LT nuked chez earlier in the game, unless the nuke was fake or something.
If both are town, then we would have seven town and four anti-town........with 1-2 night hits we're probably at lylo tomorrow and the three cycles after that.

If one is town and one is mafia, we would be at 8 town and 4 anti-town.....after night hits 6-7 town and 4 anti-town. Lynching town in that situation would mean that we would be at 5-6 town plus night hits so maybe 4-5 town and four anti-town so it would likely depend whether or mafia would have 2 kp with three mafia remaining. I've seen some setups that do, but it usually drops off at the 4th so it may not necessarily be lyo tomorrow if we get a mafia flip today.