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On September 02 2015 00:05 Damdred wrote:
Here's the problem in having now.
Lers say rit flips green, who do people focus in on then? Its going to be a lot of people focusing pushing the lynch between jj ows and tt.
JJ is pushing this like he really believes it. His case reads like he believes it. So that's a point for him, he is hung up a bit on mechanical theory that proves rit was framed so that's a bit disconcerting to a point.
OWS is acting pretty town here for him I think. I would never want to lynch him, he's not cheerleading the lynch on and being opportunistic to me.
I feel like tt is being super opportunistic with his voting. Everyone else looked at the case and went hrm that's not bad but picked up a few questions. Even fid who's totally in the tank, but look at TT remarks totally just sheeps without question... That's a problem to me, when you aren't sure about someone it just looks like mafia jumping on a lynch wagon.
I do not agree at all with your point on OWS. He is utterly indifferent to the lynch. I don't see how that's a townie trait? I mean, if he doesn't care who gets lynched, as long as its not him, isn't that a classic mafia tell?
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@JJ I need an "in the tank" gif stat.
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Because mafia are terrified of try-harding too much for fear they'll give themselves away?
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On September 02 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote:
So basically what your saying is that obi is making sure he's tommorows lynch when ritoky flips green and has absolutely no way he can win the game so he has to be scum?
He's not scum based on any type of meta etc that is known on obi
Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it looks bad for him RIGHT NOW. Lots of people have pointed out that remaining players less rayn train less green checks = Obi. Him surviving right now, as mafia, would be great. He then makes it to lylo and either turns it up, or alternatively keeps lurking and hopes that he gets passed over (because of comments like yours).
I'm not saying he IS mafia, I'm saying that it's not good enough for him to be like "don't care lol" when we're so close to the end of the game.
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On September 02 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote:
So basically what your saying is that obi is making sure he's tommorows lynch when ritoky flips green and has absolutely no way he can win the game so he has to be scum?
He's not scum based on any type of meta etc that is known on obi Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it looks bad for him RIGHT NOW. Lots of people have pointed out that remaining players less rayn train less green checks = Obi. Him surviving right now, as mafia, would be great. He then makes it to lylo and either turns it up, or alternatively keeps lurking and hopes that he gets passed over (because of comments like yours). I'm not saying he IS mafia, I'm saying that it's not good enough for him to be like "don't care lol" when we're so close to the end of the game. I love how you just completely overlook what anyone is saying about me being town.
I'm not over looking it - as far as I can see it's all just META META META. And I want more than that. If I've missed something, please do correct me!
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On September 02 2015 00:50 JudgeJudy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 00:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@JJ I need an "in the tank" gif stat. Certainly, sir. We have a variety of fine gifs for selection. First off, we have a personalized gif with the proud Union Jack on display: ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/4619288/thatcher-in-a-tank-o.gif) Or maybe you're looking for a more humorous gif? ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/a5358a68adc80c37003902849e21d448/tumblr_n1nsfgQyJ41s0mbfho1_400.gif) Or perhaps you're looking to make a profound political statement? ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/87ae665db66709f2ee653dc1b3c14adb/tumblr_mneqfhmhrv1srjqb1o5_400.gif) If you're looking for a cool action gif, then I have just the one for you: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9LXCxnw.gif) And of course, no selection would be complete without the ever popular cat gif: ![[image loading]](http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cat-driving-tank-sandbox-cat-driving-tank-dog-364165.gif) As always, it's a pleasure to be of service.
Fine work :-)
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On September 02 2015 01:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:04 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 02 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote:
So basically what your saying is that obi is making sure he's tommorows lynch when ritoky flips green and has absolutely no way he can win the game so he has to be scum?
He's not scum based on any type of meta etc that is known on obi Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it looks bad for him RIGHT NOW. Lots of people have pointed out that remaining players less rayn train less green checks = Obi. Him surviving right now, as mafia, would be great. He then makes it to lylo and either turns it up, or alternatively keeps lurking and hopes that he gets passed over (because of comments like yours). I'm not saying he IS mafia, I'm saying that it's not good enough for him to be like "don't care lol" when we're so close to the end of the game. I love how you just completely overlook what anyone is saying about me being town. I'm not over looking it - as far as I can see it's all just META META META. And I want more than that. If I've missed something, please do correct me! Considering your whole scumread on me started because of meta that you clearly didn't understand, I'm going to say that's all you're getting since you obviously don't care about anything that doesn't already support the conclusions you made.
Riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why, having already written that I 100% agreed with JJ's ritoky read, I started questioning it, then questioned TT and now I'm pushing you? Because I'm so set in my ways? Of course I care about frikking winning this game. Why do you think I've spent so much time playing it? I'm only invested in my thoughts and reads insofar as they are correct. Where they are wrong, I dearly want people to point that out to me, because I want to win. So humour me, please, and point out why my read on you is wrong.
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On September 02 2015 01:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:53 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 01:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 02 2015 01:04 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 02 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote:On September 02 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote:
So basically what your saying is that obi is making sure he's tommorows lynch when ritoky flips green and has absolutely no way he can win the game so he has to be scum?
He's not scum based on any type of meta etc that is known on obi Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it looks bad for him RIGHT NOW. Lots of people have pointed out that remaining players less rayn train less green checks = Obi. Him surviving right now, as mafia, would be great. He then makes it to lylo and either turns it up, or alternatively keeps lurking and hopes that he gets passed over (because of comments like yours). I'm not saying he IS mafia, I'm saying that it's not good enough for him to be like "don't care lol" when we're so close to the end of the game. I love how you just completely overlook what anyone is saying about me being town. I'm not over looking it - as far as I can see it's all just META META META. And I want more than that. If I've missed something, please do correct me! Considering your whole scumread on me started because of meta that you clearly didn't understand, I'm going to say that's all you're getting since you obviously don't care about anything that doesn't already support the conclusions you made. Riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why, having already written that I 100% agreed with JJ's ritoky read, I started questioning it, then questioned TT and now I'm pushing you? Because I'm so set in my ways? Of course I care about frikking winning this game. Why do you think I've spent so much time playing it? I'm only invested in my thoughts and reads insofar as they are correct. Where they are wrong, I dearly want people to point that out to me, because I want to win. So humour me, please, and point out why my read on you is wrong. It's been repeatedly explained to you you fucking moron. Bug someone else.
Wow. Okay. I would explain to you why that's a pretty poor town play, but either (I) you know and you don't care, or (II) you're mafia. Either way, it's clear that there's no further point in talking to you or listening to anything you have to say.
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Literally cannot believe that there is a TT wagon that I'm not on. If it is TT, I'm going to feel like I have met my nemesis again and once again he has bested me.
But my read on TT basically stems back to the fact that at EOD2 I was convinced that all three wagons (me, Rels and Yamato) were town. There actually was a serious wagon on me. TT and Rels were the only two there (at least, it felt like) who were thinking the same thing I was. In honesty, I wasn't even really scum reading Rayn particularly, but I really thought all the wagons were bogus and I was sure Rels was town. If TT isn't there I really and truly don't think the wagon on rayn gets started, let alone succeeds. I don't see why scum TT bothers.
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I will admit that this TT game feels very different to NewbieXII, when he was town. That was a very different game though. He subbed in and also we had the scum team 2/3 after d3.
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Question: if kp are factionally delivered, does the rb on Mafia achieve anything?
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On September 01 2015 20:30 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2015 07:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok good, I was gunna be so mad if Rels faked that redcheck.
1 mafia left, who's gunna flip it?
Honestly if it's not KSC or Obi we are gunna have to do some hard rethinking tomorrow.
You all know what I think.
Wonder if Chez was in on mafia QT as traitor... meh prob doesn't matter. @TT I've been through your filter and it seems that you were pretty much in the tank for an Obi lynch today. But you've ended up sort of going along with JJ's ritoky push. Yes, you did say just after that that you thought ritoky was scummy, but this jarred me a little bit going through your filter. It doesn't seem like you've made much of a concerted push on Obi today. Can you explain?
@TT would like your response to this please.
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On September 02 2015 05:28 Tictock wrote:
I believe that was after I had tried to start a lynch on rayn, then unvoted to Fidei.
Honestly I just remember being disappointing nobody else was willing to jump on Rayn over Rels at that point, kus I was pretty sure Rels wasn't mafia. I really don't recall why I hopped on Fidie, just that I was kinda swinging my opinion on him a lot D1 and 2.
Humm....
Didn't Fidei rejoin EoD promising some big case on Rels, then swapped it to Rit? That mighta been why I switched.
Retrospect that just makes me believe Fidei's watcher claim all the more, he even claimed that whole case switch was to throw people off.
I came back, voted Rels (for some reason, I think it was because I was town reading more people on the Rels wagon than on the Yamato wagon, although that sounds dumb now I say it out loud), then wrote a long case on ritoky. This was before I had received my upgrade, so I sort of thought "screw it, I'll get my read out so at least people have that if I get lynched". I was literally about one minute away from claiming, before the momentum moved elsewhere.
@TT People were scum reading me because I'd been absent all of the day cycle (which was fair enough). But then I was hyper-frenetic and managed to make up for it all with my contribution to the rayn switch (which I am fairly proud of, if I do say so myself, although I think Rels gets like 80% of the credit).
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Yeah. If it's not rit, I think you guys need 100% to vote Obi immediately. It's just not good enough to say "I don't care about the lynch today", which is basically the aggregate of his contribution all game. You just can't let people say that kind of stuff and live. I'll admit that it just doesn't make sense for a scum to be *that* brazen, but it makes more sense than it being TT, JJ, geript or Damdred.
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@rit it is not proven how KP are delivered. It just isn't. You can keep say that it is, but it isn't.
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On September 02 2015 04:31 ritoky wrote:
we lynching tt? cool he is on the list.
honestly don't care and haven't read anything since my last post. just gonna try to lynch mafia and block kp in the night since i am confirmed town.
Have you started caring at all now, rit? Or still indifferent?
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Yeah. Ugh. Sorry ritoky. I feel pretty damn stupid now.
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What do we think the odds are that Ticktock is a vote rigging roleblocker? Because unless there are two mafia left, that's the only possibility if he is mafia. It seems pretty OP to me? Thoughts?
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EPT
