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JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 27 2015 14:22 GMT
#2901
[image loading]

Can anyone think of anything that would link marv, HF, and FF together? Maybe we can figure out the remaining personalities that way. 2/3 were scum in one game, but that was as close as I got. Probably a long shot though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:24 GMT
#2902
^ LOL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#2903
Nuke the Chez.

- nuke theory
- claimed not-town
- during D2 he put his serious mode on and it was bullshit. He pushed suspicions on me multiple times when he should have pushed ritoky and FF
- claimed wincon is bullshit (not having a wincon)
- claimed upgrade does not align with wincon (why a not-wincon guy would have a check)
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 27 2015 14:28 GMT
#2904
On August 27 2015 23:26 Rels wrote:
Nuke the Chez.

- nuke theory
- claimed not-town
- during D2 he put his serious mode on and it was bullshit. He pushed suspicions on me multiple times when he should have pushed ritoky and FF
- claimed wincon is bullshit (not having a wincon)
- claimed upgrade does not align with wincon (why a not-wincon guy would have a check)

Don't you know claiming 3p is the surest way to survive a theme mafia game if mafia are still around?

proof: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 27 2015 14:29 GMT
#2905
I really think Rels is rayn...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:31 GMT
#2906
On August 27 2015 23:29 Chezinu wrote:
I really think Rels is rayn...

rayn is dead
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 27 2015 14:32 GMT
#2907
I know rayn is similiar to marv but you shouldn't confuse the two.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#2908
anyway why not nuke FF, "no result" check is weird, and if he's town KSC is 100% mafia 'cause that would mean LT was made uncheckable for the night by something
would prefer Chez
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#2909
On August 27 2015 23:32 Chezinu wrote:
I know rayn is similiar to marv but you shouldn't confuse the two.

marv is dead too
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 27 2015 14:40 GMT
#2910
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 27 2015 14:41 GMT
#2911
On August 27 2015 23:22 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Can anyone think of anything that would link marv, HF, and FF together? Maybe we can figure out the remaining personalities that way. 2/3 were scum in one game, but that was as close as I got. Probably a long shot though.

This is speculation but all 3 are known for their mafia game far more than their town game. FF is a bit of a meh, but I think he's got the hide in plain sight thing down as mafia. HF obvious. Lot of people forget that for the longest time Marv had only been lynched once as mafia (in an IML game iirc because he wanted to kill everyone).

So Rsoultin maybe, Geript maybe, WaveofShadow likely. Otherwise idk. It's hard to think about who'd be mafia based on reputation.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 27 2015 14:42 GMT
#2912
On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

There was a whole thing on it a while back, but I can't be bothered to look for it right now. I'm pretty sure JJ is right.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2015 14:42 GMT
#2913
yo obi i talked about this before but I don't think you should nuke FF, KSC or damdred.

If damdred dies tomorrow it is really awkward because he will be the third person who died after KSC had their vote on them.

Also FF had his vote on KSC so he is going to get a check on him tomorrow and i really don't think that those two are aligned so the possibility of fF getting a town check and confirming KSC is one i would take.

Nuke the chez
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2015 14:42 GMT
#2914
Do not nuke FF
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2015 14:43 GMT
#2915
On August 27 2015 13:30 Breshke wrote:
I don't understand some stuff. So say FF is partners with LT.

Why does FF fakeclaim a "no result" check on LT. KSC had already claimed his red on LT by that time so FF is basically singling out that there is at least one non town between himself and KSC and he also opens himself up to scrutiny if LT ever flips which at the time of the claim was very likely.

He further pigeon holes himself into this bad claim by destroying any case where he could have been roleblocked because he said he got his other actions.

What i am struggling to understand is why? Why does FF do this as mafia? His claim wasn't going to save LT even if most of the thread didn't want to lynch him FF didn't claim a green he claimed a "no result" so he wasn't even trying to save him. On top of that he didn't even take the out that he could have been roleblocked when i suggested it. He further pitted himself against KSC.

So this leads me to the fact that the only thing ff's claim as mafia would achieve would be to try and get KSC lynched considering their different checks. This I also think is a abd play because it would basically be a 2 mafia for 1 town trade.

I have to go relook at KSC's claim but for the moment I actually think it is more likely that KSC is mafia and red checked his partner and FF is town.

Or maybe they are both town but yeah If i could get opinions on this would be great

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2015 14:44 GMT
#2916
Nuke the guy who voted with the other 3 mafia on D2 on the counterwagon when we lynched mafia.
Nuke Chez
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:45 GMT
#2917
On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

He did, you can check later.
He claimed his ability is to check people he votes on. His checks were:
N1: No check (vote on WOS who died)
N2: geript (green)
He also claimed to have gotten a free check with the roleplay upgrade.
N2 upgrade check: Lord Tolkien (no result)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:45 GMT
#2918
On August 27 2015 23:42 Breshke wrote:
yo obi i talked about this before but I don't think you should nuke FF, KSC or damdred.

If damdred dies tomorrow it is really awkward because he will be the third person who died after KSC had their vote on them.

Also FF had his vote on KSC so he is going to get a check on him tomorrow and i really don't think that those two are aligned so the possibility of fF getting a town check and confirming KSC is one i would take.

Nuke the chez

+++
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2015 14:45 GMT
#2919
On August 27 2015 23:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:22 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Can anyone think of anything that would link marv, HF, and FF together? Maybe we can figure out the remaining personalities that way. 2/3 were scum in one game, but that was as close as I got. Probably a long shot though.

This is speculation but all 3 are known for their mafia game far more than their town game. FF is a bit of a meh, but I think he's got the hide in plain sight thing down as mafia. HF obvious. Lot of people forget that for the longest time Marv had only been lynched once as mafia (in an IML game iirc because he wanted to kill everyone).

So Rsoultin maybe, Geript maybe, WaveofShadow likely. Otherwise idk. It's hard to think about who'd be mafia based on reputation.


Isn't BH known for his mafia game? With that entire photo of boxes thing.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
August 27 2015 14:51 GMT
#2920
So I just want to remind people about FF's claim.

On August 25 2015 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
I guess since it isn't really my role I should just out. My upgrade was a 1-shot cop check which I used on Lord Tolkien. The result I got was literally "No Result" so unless I got a fake cop check, kelsier's check is 100% fake

On August 25 2015 13:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Fuck it i think my role is stupid anyway and i will start playing vt.

I am a cop but my check is limited to who my vote ended up on the day previous. My check on geript went through and i got green


Votes (courtesy of Rels):
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2015 17:03 Rels wrote:
Vote recaps colored with flips


Day 1 final vote

ruXxar (7): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77, FecalFeast, KelscierSC
Tubesock (2): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, The Shining, Tictock, Rels
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC
Damdred (0): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, KelsierSC
VayneAuthority (0): Lord Tolkien
yamato77 (0): FecalFeast, Tubesock

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Day 1 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

ritoky voted for fidei86
geript voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Damdred voted for fecalfeast
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for judgejudy
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Chezinu voted for ritoky
Chezinu unvoted
ruXxar voted for damdred
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for damdred
Tubesock voted for Fidei86
Breshke voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
The Shining voted for Fidei86
Rels voted for ruXxar
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for geript
WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for yamato77
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow
geript unvoted
geript voted for chezinu
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Tubesock
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for yamato77
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for Chezinu
Fidei86 voted for Chezinu
yamato77 voted for Chezinu
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for kelsierSC
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for Tubesock
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for damdred
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for ruXxar
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for WaveofShadow


Day 2 final vote

raynpelikoneet (5): Tictock, KelsierSC, Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, Rels, The Shining, JudgeJudy
Rels (5): KelsierSC, Fecalfeast, Tictock, Chezinu, geript, The Shining, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy, Lord Tolkien, Tictock, Fidei86, Fidei86, The Shining, yamato77, Rels
Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Tictock
Chezinu (1): Tictock, Breshke, geript, geript
geript (1): Fecalfeast
ritoky (0): geript, Fidei86
The Shining (1): KelsierSC, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): Fecalfeast
Fidei86 (0): The Shining, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Tictock

Day 2 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

ritoky voted for Fecalfeast
Bill Murray voted for Fecalfeast
Tictock voted for Fecalfeast
KelsierSC voted for Rels
Fecalfeast voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Rels
ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77
Chezinu voted for Rels
Rels voted for Yamato77
geript voted for ritoky
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Chezinu
Breshke voted for Chezinu
JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77
Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Rels
The Shining voted for Rels
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
Fidei86 voted for Rels
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Fidei86
raynpelikoneet voted for Rels
Damdred voted for Fidei86
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Yamato77
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for raynpelikoneet
yamato77 voted for Yamato77
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet
Tubesock voted for Rels
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Yamato77


Day 3 final vote

Lord Tolkien (8): Rels, Fidei86, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, Tictock, Damdred, ritoky
KelsierSC (3): geript, Fecalfeast, Chezinu
Damdred (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (1): Lord Tolkien

Day 3 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

Rels voted for Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 voted for Lord Tolkien
geript voted for KelsierSC
JudgeJudy voted for Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC voted for Damdred
ObiWanShinobi voted for Lord Tolkien
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
Breshke voted for Lord Tolkien
Tictock voted for Lord Tolkien
Damdred voted for Lord Tolkien
ritoky voted for Lord Tolkien
Chezinu voted for KelsierSC


When asked why he checked geript, who already had 2 green checks.
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


But he forgets Damdred's claim that geript is effectively checked green as well, also this is where Chez's claim that he recieved a check back on a dead player becomes a conflict.

On August 25 2015 19:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do


At this point all of KSC's checks have been verified, but FF's doesn't make a lot of sense. For example, why check geript if you are doubting KSC?

Now I'm not sure it makes him mafia exactly because this is a risky play for mafia and doesn't seem worth it, but I really question the suggestion that we should lynch KSC before FF has flipped.

Yea Bre just explained why FF claiming all this doesn't make a lot of sense as Mafia.

I personally still don't like the claim FF made and would nuke him over chez.

I also have a bit of a tinfoil hat theory that makes me think nuking damdred is a good call. He's made good posts overall and helped lynch 2 mafia though, so I'm prob just being paranoid there.

I can take that responsibility.
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