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On August 27 2015 20:06 Rels wrote:
OK let's not forget one of FF and KSC has to be not-town too. Both weren't roleblocked and got different results on the same target. Right now I'm more willing to kill KSC than FF, but it's very small.
Here is a direction we could take:
1 - nuke Chezinu tonight
2 - if his upgrade really was a check, FF is lying; we kill him
3 - if not, I'm more in favor of a KSC lynch atm, but very slightly. We'll debate tomorrow about this
If Chez was telling the truth, that also puts ritoky's RBer claim into question.
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On August 26 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 06:13 geript wrote:On August 26 2015 06:10 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense. explanations are meant to clarify things not make you look like an idiot. Do you deny visiting LT n1? Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 04:41 geript wrote:
Yes. My 'upgrade' was a QT with a dead person. But I'm not sure how much I trust it. Because it's apparently HtS. And she apparently watched LT N1 get visited by KSC. Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:On August 26 2015 04:41 geript wrote:
Yes. My 'upgrade' was a QT with a dead person. But I'm not sure how much I trust it. Because it's apparently HtS. And she apparently watched LT N1 get visited by KSC. ? HTS didn't do shit night 1, I RB'd her night 1. That check is just plain made up dude.
People. I want to take us back to this interaction, because I think we can make more ground out of it. In short:
HTS flips watcher.
Ritoky claims RBer, says he RB'd her n1.
Geript is in a QT with someone who claims to be HTS, says that she watched KSC visited LT n1.
LT is now confirmed mafia.
So basically, KSC - did you visit LT n1?
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There honestly hasn't been a lot to do over the last d/n cycle. Provided we get the nuke off on Chezinu (and I agree, there is no way he is a town aligned player, unless he has deliberately been playing contrary to his win condition), we'll know a lot more.
We're definitely not at the "we need to start re-evaluating everyone" stage, but I think once we know the NKs (if any, here's hoping..) and Chez's flip, we'll know a lot more.
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KSC I'm not saying you're scum, I'm asking you whether you visited LT on n1.
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On August 26 2015 06:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 06:13 geript wrote:On August 26 2015 06:10 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense. explanations are meant to clarify things not make you look like an idiot. Do you deny visiting LT n1? i checked you n1 dude
Meh that was relatively lazy of me. So yeah, KSC says he checked geript n1. Which means that the person in geript's QT - if it exists - definitely isn't HTS.
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On August 27 2015 22:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:03 Fidei86 wrote:
KSC I'm not saying you're scum, I'm asking you whether you visited LT on n1. read
Is there really any need for you to continue to be rude and obnoxious? Roleplaying got old about 12 hours into the game.
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On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.
Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.
There was a whole thing on it a while back, but I can't be bothered to look for it right now. I'm pretty sure JJ is right.
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On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.
Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?
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On August 28 2015 09:26 Damdred wrote:
Myself and fid have to be terrible players who are playing 100% against our wincon if you believe that scenerio
For what it's worth, I specifically asked the mods whether my induction into "House Brown" changed my alignment or my role. I was informed that it had affected neither. I haven't received anything else from Damdred and I haven't been given anything about it from the mods since. Also I am bad at this game, but I don't see how Damdred could be a cult leader. Unless he is recruiting as well as turning people into "House Brown". I've already speculated about this enough in the past - I can't see how Damdred is Mafia, unless there is a Mafia recruiting power that lets them tell targeted town that they're in House Brown? That sounds like a shitty power.
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On August 29 2015 04:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Terrible nuke, imo.
Uh, understatement of the century? Chez and KSC have played anti-town roles all game. If they are town, we can thank them later for ruining the game (/throwing, if town lose).
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@TT didn't KSC admit that he had been lying about his claim?
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On August 29 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't understand the question. it was sent to me? wasn't it sent to everyone?
When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade?
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Here's the thing about KSC's switch on the Rels/Rayn lynch: It was not worth the switch for the check. Like, the vote was tied. Switching to get a check on whoever isn't worth missing the opportunity to ACTUALLY LYNCH MAFIA. So I don't think KSC should get any credit for that at all, or at least, a lot let credit than he is trying to take.
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On August 29 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't understand the question. it was sent to me? wasn't it sent to everyone? When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade? I doubt wee over get an answer been asking for a hit now
The other thing about Rit's claim is that he's been all over the place on whether or not he was able to choose who he voted for d1 and d2. He said several times that the mods chose who he had to vote, but then he also once d1 that he was happy with his vote on me. It also doesn't make much sense that he'd get an upgrade for doing something he was FORCED to do by the rules.
So, rit, which is it? Could you chose who to vote for, or could you not?
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On August 29 2015 07:48 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:On August 29 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't understand the question. it was sent to me? wasn't it sent to everyone? When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade? I doubt wee over get an answer been asking for a hit now The other thing about Rit's claim is that he's been all over the place on whether or not he was able to choose who he voted for d1 and d2. He said several times that the mods chose who he had to vote, but then he also once d1 that he was happy with his vote on me. It also doesn't make much sense that he'd get an upgrade for doing something he was FORCED to do by the rules. So, rit, which is it? Could you chose who to vote for, or could you not? i already answered this over 50 pages ago, why do you still have such a hard-on for me. it makes me think you're not town simply because at some point town would have at least tried to reconsider at some point.
Care to link me to it? Because I went through your filter and I couldn't find it.
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On August 29 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 08:05 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:48 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:On August 29 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't understand the question. it was sent to me? wasn't it sent to everyone? When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade? I doubt wee over get an answer been asking for a hit now The other thing about Rit's claim is that he's been all over the place on whether or not he was able to choose who he voted for d1 and d2. He said several times that the mods chose who he had to vote, but then he also once d1 that he was happy with his vote on me. It also doesn't make much sense that he'd get an upgrade for doing something he was FORCED to do by the rules. So, rit, which is it? Could you chose who to vote for, or could you not? i already answered this over 50 pages ago, why do you still have such a hard-on for me. it makes me think you're not town simply because at some point town would have at least tried to reconsider at some point. Care to link me to it? Because I went through your filter and I couldn't find it. i rng voted because it was my upgrade. i knew my upgrade, i rng'd the vote to obtain it. simple as that. any more explanation moves too close to talking about exact role pms and mod kill territory for my liking.
It's a simple question and it has a simple answer. Were you compelled to vote one way or another, or were you free to choose. If you're saying it's the latter, that DIRECTLY contradicts statements you've made earlier.
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On August 29 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:
Kinda funny but I won't draw any concussions yet i mean we are gonna lynch chez, he is gonna flip mafia and i am conf town; unless we plan to not lynch him which i feel is stupid in every capacity, discussing my alignment is a waste of time until he flips really.
How exactly are you confirmed town?
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On August 29 2015 08:19 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 08:05 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:48 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:On August 29 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't understand the question. it was sent to me? wasn't it sent to everyone? When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade? I doubt wee over get an answer been asking for a hit now The other thing about Rit's claim is that he's been all over the place on whether or not he was able to choose who he voted for d1 and d2. He said several times that the mods chose who he had to vote, but then he also once d1 that he was happy with his vote on me. It also doesn't make much sense that he'd get an upgrade for doing something he was FORCED to do by the rules. So, rit, which is it? Could you chose who to vote for, or could you not? i already answered this over 50 pages ago, why do you still have such a hard-on for me. it makes me think you're not town simply because at some point town would have at least tried to reconsider at some point. Care to link me to it? Because I went through your filter and I couldn't find it. i rng voted because it was my upgrade. i knew my upgrade, i rng'd the vote to obtain it. simple as that. any more explanation moves too close to talking about exact role pms and mod kill territory for my liking. It's a simple question and it has a simple answer. Were you compelled to vote one way or another, or were you free to choose. If you're saying it's the latter, that DIRECTLY contradicts statements you've made earlier. of course i was free to choose to try to obtain my upgrade or not. any role where the mod literally pms you who you have to vote for should never be implemented and i would immediately ask for a sub upon receiving it. i voted who i wanted yesterday, so this question is still very dumb and i have no idea where you're going. i lied about being forced to vote by a mod to obtain an upgrade in a way that would not get me immediately shot by the mafia. woopdeedoo, people lie. damdred lied about his presents confirming alignment, ksc lied about cop checks. geript lied about talking with hts post death. people lie.
WTF. Why would you get shot by the mafia if you admitted that you didn't have to vote for whoever the mods picked? That makes no sense.
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On August 29 2015 08:26 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 08:23 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 08:19 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 08:05 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:48 ritoky wrote:On August 29 2015 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:On August 29 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:On August 29 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote:
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When did you receive an explanation of your upgrade? I doubt wee over get an answer been asking for a hit now The other thing about Rit's claim is that he's been all over the place on whether or not he was able to choose who he voted for d1 and d2. He said several times that the mods chose who he had to vote, but then he also once d1 that he was happy with his vote on me. It also doesn't make much sense that he'd get an upgrade for doing something he was FORCED to do by the rules. So, rit, which is it? Could you chose who to vote for, or could you not? i already answered this over 50 pages ago, why do you still have such a hard-on for me. it makes me think you're not town simply because at some point town would have at least tried to reconsider at some point. Care to link me to it? Because I went through your filter and I couldn't find it. i rng voted because it was my upgrade. i knew my upgrade, i rng'd the vote to obtain it. simple as that. any more explanation moves too close to talking about exact role pms and mod kill territory for my liking. It's a simple question and it has a simple answer. Were you compelled to vote one way or another, or were you free to choose. If you're saying it's the latter, that DIRECTLY contradicts statements you've made earlier. of course i was free to choose to try to obtain my upgrade or not. any role where the mod literally pms you who you have to vote for should never be implemented and i would immediately ask for a sub upon receiving it. i voted who i wanted yesterday, so this question is still very dumb and i have no idea where you're going. i lied about being forced to vote by a mod to obtain an upgrade in a way that would not get me immediately shot by the mafia. woopdeedoo, people lie. damdred lied about his presents confirming alignment, ksc lied about cop checks. geript lied about talking with hts post death. people lie. WTF. Why would you get shot by the mafia if you admitted that you didn't have to vote for whoever the mods picked? That makes no sense. this may seem like complete wifom to you, but as town i have been shot in the first 2 nights every single game for the past while. if i were mafia i would assume that the character i got would have a role seeing as this person is a rather large personality on the forums. thus if i were mafia i would have shot me unless there was a reason not to. strong player + likely role = auto-n1 shot. thus i strategically applied a detractor to myself, aka the mod tells me who to vote for, to make myself a less appealing shot.
Does anyone else find it weird that ritoky, who usually gets NKed N1 because he is good at town hasn't had a correct read or a correct push yet? Because I find it super weird.
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You can't think of a single reason? Try your hardest, and see if you can come up with one. Because I can.
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