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On August 14 2015 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:04 ruXxar wrote:On August 14 2015 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 02:57 Vivax wrote:On August 14 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 02:17 Vivax wrote:On August 14 2015 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if you want to read me mafia for stuff I've done then fine Vivax, but as rsoultin has showed you already, I was suspicious of Decon BEFORE the Hopeless sheep, and I went BACK to my original preference when it became possible. IN SPITE of openly stating in the thread that I'm cementing my vote to rayn's. So....unless you think that I, as mafia, do something like that, IN FULL VIEW OF EVERYONE, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HOPELESS BEING STORM VOTED IN THE NIGHT, then you keep on your little retard tunnel of retardation. I'm going to keep playing my game and doing what I can when I can. I'm not tying what you did to hopeless alignment. I'm tying it to the fact you did it to cause confusion and appear in doubt when I don't buy you being in doubt in that situation to the point of shortly abandoning your former scumread. Well that's your opinion based on your GUESS of my alignment, there's nothing objectively scummy about my switch A) because I'm town B) because my reasoning was explicit in the thread in full view of everyone. Anyone was free to disagree with or take issue with my reasoning and no one did, yourself included. Get fucked. Going back and rereading things POSTFLIP and taking issue with that is perfectly legit, and I'm not taking rayn's word on you. Simply saying you're in the clear cause nobody immediately took issue with your play at the time with less information available is a shitty argument. It's not perfectly legit because my reasoning is in the thread. If you think it's bad reasoning and you think I'm mafia for it that's one thing, but you're discounting any kind of town motivation at all in favor of your retarded "meta" read that isn't even fucking valid anymore. Like if you keep pushing on me like this I'm going to be FORCED to kill you tomorrow, and neither one of us wants that do we? I know I don't. Who's scum. Right now? Vivax isn't, at least, not based on his push on me. He could just be full of himself and town and horribly terribly wrong. I've seen it MANY times from Vivax.
Don't care about town reads.
Who is scum?
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On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn.
I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread.
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On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn. I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread.
Your best guess right now?
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On August 14 2015 03:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn. I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread. Your best guess right now?
Just give me a name. Quick.
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On August 14 2015 03:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn. I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread. Your best guess right now?
I'm fine with StormVoting Hopeless for lack of better targets. Trfel looks ever-so-slightly better than he did before based on his tone and activity, though I'll have to reread to know whether his content and timing and shit seems townie or not. Tentatively I'd still throw him in my lynch pile though.
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On August 14 2015 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:10 ruXxar wrote:On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn. I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread. Your best guess right now? I'm fine with StormVoting Hopeless for lack of better targets. Trfel looks ever-so-slightly better than he did before based on his tone and activity, though I'll have to reread to know whether his content and timing and shit seems townie or not. Tentatively I'd still throw him in my lynch pile though.
Good.
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Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez.
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On August 14 2015 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:10 ruXxar wrote:On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 14 2015 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want further information than that you're going to have to wait on a reread post dawn. I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread. Your best guess right now? I'm fine with StormVoting Hopeless for lack of better targets. Trfel looks ever-so-slightly better than he did before based on his tone and activity, though I'll have to reread to know whether his content and timing and shit seems townie or not. Tentatively I'd still throw him in my lynch pile though.
Does lack of better targets mean you have 0 scum reads right now?
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It means my scumreads pale in comparison to my townreads at this point. That's how I scumhunt, I find townies then narrow down the remainder. After a reread I'll probably have more concrete opinions, but right now I'm just kinda idling.
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On August 14 2015 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez.
I'm sure rayn will indulge you.
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On August 14 2015 03:18 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez. I'm sure rayn will indulge you.
I'm sure he will too - my hope is that he does so BEFORE the nightkills just in case though.
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On August 14 2015 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
It means my scumreads pale in comparison to my townreads at this point. That's how I scumhunt, I find townies then narrow down the remainder. After a reread I'll probably have more concrete opinions, but right now I'm just kinda idling.
Ok let me put it this way then.
Do you think there are scum on the hopeless train or are they all town reads?
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On August 14 2015 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez.
On August 13 2015 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem with Chezinu is that when he is town his ciphered posts do contain a shitton of information and thought if you go through them and try to understand what he is actually saying. When he is mafia they usually don't. Which is like here. The only things he has basically done is "Chezinu rule" and then "vote deconduo (AGAINST the Chezinu rule - as both of Damdred and Trfel are there aswell)". Chazinu is not stupid, and i KNOW he believes in the Chezinu rule. It makes literally no sense at all he is basically throwing his #1 read gathering mechanic into trash when it actually matters the most.
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In liking your Answers so far. You're doing a great job.
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On August 14 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez. Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem with Chezinu is that when he is town his ciphered posts do contain a shitton of information and thought if you go through them and try to understand what he is actually saying. When he is mafia they usually don't. Which is like here. The only things he has basically done is "Chezinu rule" and then "vote deconduo (AGAINST the Chezinu rule - as both of Damdred and Trfel are there aswell)". Chazinu is not stupid, and i KNOW he believes in the Chezinu rule. It makes literally no sense at all he is basically throwing his #1 read gathering mechanic into trash when it actually matters the most.
So let's lynch hopeless then chez?
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I encourage all townies to stormvote hopeless.
All the people that said they regretted voting for Decon over hopeless or would've voted for hopeless if he had the numbers(damdred).
Now is your chance!
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On August 13 2015 22:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn why did you stop thinking Damdred was scum (presuming you did since you haven't named him in recent times)?
Because of his defeatist attitude which i hate. But it's still probably town.
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On August 14 2015 03:20 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
It means my scumreads pale in comparison to my townreads at this point. That's how I scumhunt, I find townies then narrow down the remainder. After a reread I'll probably have more concrete opinions, but right now I'm just kinda idling. Ok let me put it this way then. Do you think there are scum on the hopeless train or are they all town reads?
VE please reply 
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On August 14 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 02:12 ruXxar wrote:On August 14 2015 02:05 Damdred wrote:
At the time it was prp or trfel for odd votes at that moment I made that pretty clear when RS asked me around lynch.
I probably would of consolidated on hopeless if we had the numbers though at eod.
And no clue I made that clear but it was either a straight bus or town I didn't know which shrug What incentive would mafia have to bus in that situation when town rayn is on the other train. There is none. I see 0 reason to bus here. You would've voted for hopeless you say but you were actively opposing his lynch. Don't be obtuse rux its quite possible two people are pushing two mafia and mafia have to de IDE which one is better to keep for a night it happens all the time. So a bus is possible in that situation And I never called hopeless town during the day just that he was a better big shot than he was a lynch so we could get other information. But given the last few minutes of information a hopeless lynch would of been fine but myself and RS couldn't seit h or we would of no lynched I believe.
this
i saw what he was talking about, but we weren't enough to lynch hopeless and frankly i wasn't sold on that lynch anyway?
also @ rayn
if that wasn't what you were saying you should have corrected me ages ago. maybe the twenty fucking something times i asked you to clarify? but noooo you'd rather scream and get mad at me and tell me to fuck off -_-
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I never really read Damdred's post because i was in the middle of something else at the time and i focus on one thing at the time. Then i fell asleep later which is also why this lynch happened.
It does not pardon you from what you did rsoultin. You blindly trusted Damdred over me without even reading the game he quoted (hint: in that scumgame of Hopeless he doesn't really lay out a single thought process regarding his reads so i don't even know what the fuck is Damdred reading).
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