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On August 13 2015 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 07:11 prplhz wrote:On August 13 2015 07:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 07:08 prplhz wrote:On August 13 2015 07:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 07:03 prplhz wrote:
people did push decon? also if hopeless is town then scum could just be waiting for us to lynch him and then hope to take decon tomorrow? No one voted him but VE though. People have been soft accusing him all game without voting him is what I'm saying, which is usually a prime recipe for someone to be scum. couldn't he just be a townie instead and the reason scum aren't pushing him (yet!) is because they have no reason to? I don't think so unless all the realistic lynch candidates have been scum. Deconduo was an easy push target in a time when no one was really getting pushed. It's possible mafia are just a very weak team and don't have any thread presence but in that case we'll probably win anyway. like you say "decon is scum because scum aren't pushing him" but you can't explain why scum would push him which is why i don't buy it. i don't think decon is super townie, he's mostly just playing like people from way back usually play. Scum would like to not get lynched. If Deconduo is town, there was no one (but me) townreading him, making him an easy push. No one but VE tries to lynch Deconduo until very recently. The fact that someone tried, a lot of people are scumreading him and it got no traction is pretty incriminating.
yes scum would like not to get lynched but are they getting lynched? are you saying that scum are getting lynched right now and because they're not trying to save themselves by switching the lynch to decon then decon is scum?
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like if decon is massive lynchbait and hopeless is town:
why would scum even switch to decon? they'd just let us kill hopeless today and then massive lynchbait decon tomorrow and then suddenly it's d3 and we've nothing to show for it? what am i missing?
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it's just as weird that no scum called him town for towncredit. hmm.
maybe we should lynch him based on stuff he did rather than based on general thread sentiment? did he do anything scummy? he didn't do much and this setup focus and afkness just seems like how people who used to play a long time ago but had a long break and now they just came back for their first game in a while usually play like.
yea that's probably weird coming from someone who sheeps people all the time. might even sheep you.
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On August 13 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 07:27 prplhz wrote:
it's just as weird that no scum called him town for towncredit. hmm.
maybe we should lynch him based on stuff he did rather than based on general thread sentiment? did he do anything scummy? he didn't do much and this setup focus and afkness just seems like how people who used to play a long time ago but had a long break and now they just came back for their first game in a while usually play like.
yea that's probably weird coming from someone who sheeps people all the time. might even sheep you. eh, i could see this, but i think even people who haven't played in a long time will have some sort of opinion about something rather than just pinging a player for suboptimal play? besides which, if he's smart enough to make one connection i fail to see why he didn't make the other
maybe! but really, this is really just how i think these people play. they come in and don't exactly know the current meta (for lack of better expression) so they do something (mostly setup speculation or deference to kenpachi/chezinu/whatever rules) and then they sort of disappear. sometimes they just disappear. i don't really think it points at scum. at the same time i don't see why scum would push decon unless they have to and that's sort of it. artanis keeps saying that a strong scum team would push decon, but why would a strong scum team not but, say, palmar? or you? like think i see where artanis is coming from but i don't really buy it.
what's this damdred town read you have anyway? are you going to lynch him anyway just to get a read on palmar?
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what about trfel what happened to him anyway
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On August 13 2015 07:47 Vivax wrote:
I'ma just see where Palmar leads me.
i'd be less worried doing this if he was actually around. and weekend's coming up so he'll be afk again.
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yea maybe it's a bad idea?
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On August 13 2015 08:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 07:59 ruXxar wrote:
What's the case for damdred being scum? He got a role pm that says so.
you know it's against the rules to read other people's rolePMs
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On August 13 2015 08:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So prplhz do you actually think deconduo is town or are you just defending a null to you?
overwhelmingly the latter
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On August 13 2015 08:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 08:06 prplhz wrote:On August 13 2015 08:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So prplhz do you actually think deconduo is town or are you just defending a null to you? overwhelmingly the latter So, uh, why?
dunno maybe saying i was defending deconduo is wrong. it was more like i disagreed with your case (that happened to be on him).
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okay lets go for decon then
##Vote deconduo
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i'm rolling with this decon thing mainly because rso and artanis look townie enough. personally i think it's a shot in the dark but it seems like it's the best we can do today.
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anyway if you're gonna storm me then you should have a majority in the thread and then everybody should storm me to hide our blues
or did i get the storm vote thing wrong?
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dunno i think i have already explained myself and refuted your arguments as well as i could. artanis seems to think i'm scum because i disagreed with his case even though i didn't have a clear townread on the person it was on. wouldn't you disagree with me if i made a case on your scum read but based my case on numerology or coinflips?
rayn i don't know. this timing issue, could be a coincidence no? i mean what can i say, you could be right. i could be scum with hopeless and the reason i started saying something is because he was getting lynched? dunno i think when i play scum i just try to look town and don't worry so much about my team. i really don't think that i would try to save him. like, people generally don't listen much to me anyway. look at this town and tell me you think i would ever think i could convince people here of doing anything?
as for the "didn't mention palmar" i haven't even a clue what you're talking about. it's wrong though. first of all palmar doesn't read me very well any longer? dunno where you got that? we just played debauchery and you saw how he flipped a million times on me and only marv kept me alive.
dunno about damdred's and ruxxar's cases. i think probably all of my play yesterday can be explained very well by how i didn't really feel that anyone was obviously scum and the thread just didn't give me any alignment indications. i didn't lean much to either direction on anyone.
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On August 13 2015 19:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 19:37 prplhz wrote:
anyway if you're gonna storm me then you should have a majority in the thread and then everybody should storm me to hide our blues
or did i get the storm vote thing wrong? Nobody gets to know who voted unless you tell them. It's anonymous.
yea sure but if rayn and art says "we deffo voting for prpl" and everybody else is like "meh" and then i end up with 1 vote
then one of ran
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On August 13 2015 19:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 19:37 prplhz wrote:
anyway if you're gonna storm me then you should have a majority in the thread and then everybody should storm me to hide our blues
or did i get the storm vote thing wrong? Nobody gets to know who voted unless you tell them. It's anonymous.
yea sure but if rayn and art says "we deffo voting for prpl" and everybody else is like "meh" and then i end up with 1 vote
then scum will know there's a blue in rayn and art
i mean if a majority think i should die then i should probably die and then the best thing to do is for everybody to vote me. that will give scum zero information.
same obviously goes if a majority wants to storm someone else.
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i mean i don't really see any downside in everybody just storm voting with the majority.
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i'm fairly certain it's been suggested?
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On August 13 2015 20:02 ruXxar wrote:
There is something really unnerving going on here.
At one point we were at 4-5 in favor of Decon and trfel, chezinu and damdred had yet to vote.
Trfel and chezinu voted to hammer decon, while damdreds vote was essentially meaningless.
Unless rsoultin and artsnis are scum(which I don't think), then decons lynch was easy to jump on after 2 strong towns already started the train.
There should definitely be mafia on the decon train, almost certainly.
I'm most suspicious of prpl, hopeless, trfel and chezinu just from the vote count.
I'm 100% convinced there is minimum 1 mafia in there.
there's like 80% chance that's correct even if you just picked people at random (assuming you're town).
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On August 13 2015 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
prplhz when was the last game you have zero mentions of Palmar on D1?
as what alignment?
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EPT
