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are you going to talk to me igrok? i'm being very civil
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On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town.
Yeah, like lurking, lying and many other things. Still no matter how many people you policy lynch for it townies will keep doing it anyways.
The art of being good at town is to distinguish between anti-town and mafia behaviour.
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On August 09 2015 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
are you going to talk to me igrok? i'm being very civil
I was responding to JAT. I'm not sure what you want me to respond to on your end, you've made your point actually clear. You think you're clear enough, and if you think someone doesn't understand you assume they're bad and not reading. I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that.
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On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town.
admittedly i didn't answer your question
saying that i refused to communicate or answer questions on the whole is a gross misrepresentation of my play this game. if your only purpose here is to "win" by saying that it's not your fault for misreading me and it was my fault for playing that way, i've already accepted responsibility for the parts of my play that are subpar
the fact of the matter, though, is your read wasn't good. there was a reason most of the game didn't agree with you and it wasn't just because they're all bad and you're the only good player here, i can assure you
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On August 09 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town. Yeah, like lurking, lying and many other things. Still no matter how many people you policy lynch for it townies will keep doing it anyways. The art of being good at town is to distinguish between anti-town and mafia behaviour.
I have a little faith in the people on TL that they can be better. We all can. You need both carrot and stick to train people.
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On August 09 2015 05:32 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
are you going to talk to me igrok? i'm being very civil I was responding to JAT. I'm not sure what you want me to respond to on your end, you've made your point actually clear. You think you're clear enough, and if you think someone doesn't understand you assume they're bad and not reading. I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that.
i think we need to take this outside this thread ^^
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On August 09 2015 05:33 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town. Yeah, like lurking, lying and many other things. Still no matter how many people you policy lynch for it townies will keep doing it anyways. The art of being good at town is to distinguish between anti-town and mafia behaviour. I have a little faith in the people on TL that they can be better. We all can. You need both carrot and stick to train people.
lol, and this is coming from someone who has been playing here for ages. Impressive. I've been playing for only a little more than 2 years and I lost all hope for this ever happening.
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On August 09 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town. admittedly i didn't answer your question saying that i refused to communicate or answer questions on the whole is a gross misrepresentation of my play this game. if your only purpose here is to "win" by saying that it's not your fault for misreading me and it was my fault for playing that way, i've already accepted responsibility for the parts of my play that are subpar the fact of the matter, though, is your read wasn't good. there was a reason most of the game didn't agree with you and it wasn't just because they're all bad and you're the only good player here, i can assure you
Cool, guess what, I didn't say that either.
Obviously there's an incredibly vast meta difference between when I last played and now. Now it isn't just palmar, wbg, and kenpachi that spam the thread with 1-liners, its everyone.
I still can't believe I got called scum because my post was in proper english.
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No... That wasn't why you were called scum. You were actively working against the thread, unable to communicate with anyone outside this old vet division you made up and overall refused to play or gave non factual representations of what was going on.
Tge meta has changed to some extent but its still mafia.
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On August 09 2015 05:39 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is. I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town. admittedly i didn't answer your question saying that i refused to communicate or answer questions on the whole is a gross misrepresentation of my play this game. if your only purpose here is to "win" by saying that it's not your fault for misreading me and it was my fault for playing that way, i've already accepted responsibility for the parts of my play that are subpar the fact of the matter, though, is your read wasn't good. there was a reason most of the game didn't agree with you and it wasn't just because they're all bad and you're the only good player here, i can assure you Cool, guess what, I didn't say that either. Obviously there's an incredibly vast meta difference between when I last played and now. Now it isn't just palmar, wbg, and kenpachi that spam the thread with 1-liners, its everyone. I still can't believe I got called scum because my post was in proper english.
That wasn't the main point of what everyone was saying. People were just pointing out how your tone was preachy and how you complained, refused to take other's viewpoints, and at certain points didn't listen to others. And you say it's bad for town when townies don't listen to each other???
Even if you're terrible at tone reads, I'm pretty sure that ANYONE can see that rsoultin was town. She was actively searching for Mafia, probing at the right people, asking very specific questions and making sure that no one got away with anything. If that isn't townie behavior I'll eat my hat.
And sure scum can do any of the above, but it'll be much harder for them and their tone either slips or changes. Remember. We're people who have been playing with each other for forever. We are quick to spot any differences in tone.
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On August 09 2015 05:54 Damdred wrote:
No... That wasn't why you were called scum. You were actively working against the thread, unable to communicate with anyone outside this old vet division you made up and overall refused to play or gave non factual representations of what was going on.
Tge meta has changed to some extent but its still mafia.
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe.
I got called scum because my 2-line post was proper english and used bold tags.
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Yay dumbtown Shining knew yamato's scum meta and I just knew there was something off about Cop. I could only trace it down to the self-metaing but yeah, I never fully towned her.
Im bad. Someone make me better lol. I cant believe I actually managed to do the whole catch up posting thing too lol
I'm also very purposely ignoring the endgame stuff. I am going to take HTS word for it, among with the friends I have here, and say this is far from the norm. Cop, you should do the same. And I don't want to rehash any of the EoD stuff cuz it didn't directly involve me and I agree with a lot of points from a lot of different people.
I've played with HF once or twice and this was a first. Sad to see you wanna go but I just came back from a break so I know the feeling. Ah well,enough rambling, onto the next!
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well i think we all made our opinions clear
this won't accomplish anything
see y'all next game <3
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On August 09 2015 06:05 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:54 Damdred wrote:
No... That wasn't why you were called scum. You were actively working against the thread, unable to communicate with anyone outside this old vet division you made up and overall refused to play or gave non factual representations of what was going on.
Tge meta has changed to some extent but its still mafia. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. I got called scum because my 2-line post was proper english and used bold tags.
Um...that's ruXxar...if you want to hear about what I have to say about that guy then feel free to PM me...but that's only ruXxar...
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All of you need to eat a bar of snicker or your favorite chocolate and chill.
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I am thoroughly depressed by this game.
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On August 09 2015 13:07 yamato77 wrote:
I am thoroughly depressed by this game.
what game? this never happened
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On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. That goes for anyone, not just RS. Townies who play anti-town styles should be lynched Day 1. Eventually they adapt and the game gets better for it.
christ could this be any more naive
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On August 10 2015 20:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.
That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/ Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative. Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day. That goes for anyone, not just RS. Townies who play anti-town styles should be lynched Day 1. Eventually they adapt and the game gets better for it. christ could this be any more naive
You're late to the party bro.
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