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On August 08 2015 06:04 Alakaslam wrote: Not gonna format the post. I have way too little conn to say much. Since it seems China just has a hard on for 1:00, I am changing the deadline after this nightshade to a nighttime deadline. Probably +6 hours, but this is not set in stone. Usually, when a host is gone inexplicably, the player can decently flip themselves and be excused. Apparently, we can't quite handle that, for some reason I literally can't read for a while. So, I will deal with it when I can. Shatto place is psycho. So is the day over or not? | ||
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On August 08 2015 06:09 yamato77 wrote: No, slam, that is not usual. We usually wait for the host to flip the player. 2nded | ||
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On August 08 2015 06:11 Damdred wrote: Can we just drop it and play, Edgar stays out of thread and just continue. I don't even know if its day or night at this point. | ||
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On August 08 2015 06:13 Alakaslam wrote: Was lit yanked from PC car keys in hand "drive" Post in blue | ||
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First of all, you didn't lynch confirmed scum RS. Second, you let RX lead you into lynching EAP by forcing a split between me, YM, and EAP. Third, you didn't lynch me even though I went AFK for a long time. Fourth, EAP pulled some serious bullshit and I'll be pushing for his player's ban for a loooong time. Fifth, Alakaslam isn't acting like a host. I'll be around for 15 minutes, then I'm leaving for FNM. Anything you want to know, ask me. I've caught up on the thread. | ||
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On August 08 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote: And you have Ruxxor as hard town ya? No On August 08 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote: what format FNM? If constructed, what deck are you playing? Cube Draft, I built a power cube and my store is awesome enough to sanction it! | ||
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On August 08 2015 18:54 Holyflare wrote: You people are disgusting. All I did was flip myself and allow the game to continue and these are the insults received? In no way did I ruin the integrity of the game/cheat/ruin anything but have fun because I will never be playing here again. Good, you need a long time-out. I have absolutely no idea how you thought that was the best course of action to take. I know you've been around for a long time. Hosts have been late before, and self-flipping and declaring yourself interim-host has never been the answer. Shit, I missed a night post by like six hours in one of my games. You know what happened? People said "Nightpost or riot" a few times and then waited, because they realized that something more important than mafia was probably going on and they were reasonable human beings. | ||
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On August 08 2015 19:25 Holyflare wrote: And how does self flipping affect this differently? Why does it matter what error you made i n hosting previously. Your posts were pathetic and childish as I had no affect on the game other than my flip. So you had the option of A) Wait or B) Do something, and you chose B. My example is of players making reasonable action (A) to demonstrate how what you did was wrong by comparison. Yeah, I went a little over the top, and I've already apologized to Alakaslam. There was a guy in the thread doing something basically incomprehensible. Are you really defending what you did? You aren't even going to apologize? | ||
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On August 08 2015 19:40 Rels wrote: Have you read the game now ? There were no ad hom or useless posts until eod. That was an exact quote from HF's post. Not sure if scott feels that way or was just quoting HF. @HF I can't believe you're actually defending yourself, and not even apologizing for your attitude towards Alakaslam. Like, if you're mad at me because I yelled you into shutting up, I understand. But you were so condescending towards the hosts whose game you were usurping, its unfathomable that you find yourself completely in the right. | ||
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I don't need to point out where you went wrong because Alakaslam already did: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491051-desert-center-mini-mafia?page=71#1403 | ||
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P.S. I never said it was ok for people to wish other people to die. | ||
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On August 08 2015 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is a rule that says in bold blue text: "This is a mod font. Please do not use it." Like you can argue that if you continue posting after death people can just ignore your posts and play the game. But it is as stupid as this. And yeah i do apologize for whqt i said to you. But the point still stands. I cant fucking understand how people think they are somehow above the hosts and do this shit INTENTIONALLY?!?! Even if you think you did nothing wrong can you at least see what it caused? And rethink. Even for a little bit? Plus, this is directly from the OP: OP: Posting after death is actually more strictly prohibited. No goodbyes, only acceptable things are GG, go (alignment) and :popcorn:. Nothing else at all. | ||
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On August 08 2015 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course it would be okay because he is a host and you are not. I've literally been sitting here trying to figure out how to respond to that. | ||
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On August 08 2015 20:16 Xatalos wrote: Wait, I hope the way how the votecount tool is strict with vote formatting didn't cause any of this? Unfortunately I don't think it would be a good idea to make it "too" lenient. Otherwise there could too easily be unintended votes. However, I'm working on a solution to allow nicknames (and slight mistakes in spelling?) at some point. In any case, I don't think there's a huge need to test the tool right now. Didn't seem like there were any problems during this game (except the duplicate names for Edgar), and it's now mostly working, just nice to see multiple games using it - both for finding unexpected problems and just overall seeing it in action. Seems sad if many people are quitting TL Mafia... I can understand IRL issues and such, I've also taken long breaks because of that, but I hope it's not something definitely permanent. (P.S. Are there really no filters anymore on TL...? :/ ) That's not it, no worries. Tool is great! | ||
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On August 08 2015 20:14 Holyflare wrote: And how has what I posted altered any of your views of the game or given anything other than my alignment away? The rule for posting after death is clearly meant for circumstances which give game altering information away. You can do or say whatever you want to be honest. In no way did I insult alakaslam or anyone, I simply wanted the game to continue. Alakaslam's post if you actually read it misconstrues every post to have an alterior motive behind it which it does not. My first post was simply a rhetorical I guess they forgot post. The other posts were so alakaslam could simply maintain that the integrity of the game was still intact and was not an attack on his intelligence in the slightest. Grow up people, learn to not be fucking rule whores and adapt to circumstances. Cya never. On August 08 2015 05:05 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I will post it I guess since the hosts don't even know that their own game cycle is over? Insulting slam. Multiple instances of you acting extremely condescending to other players available on-demand, if you really want to keep denying it. | ||
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66% {RS + Yamato + ?}, remaining member split roughly 33% Ruxxar, 33% Rels, 33% KSC. Town reads: 100% Rayne, Damdred, Scott, 66% Rels (really conflicting signals from Rels), Shining Null Reads: CopCake, EAP, Feast RS did something that only scum should do: claim to leave the thread, and then respond to pressure. Its a basic trap that catches scum or lying town. For this reason, RS should have been the D1 lynch. Yamato was difficult to read early, obviously, because he was lurking so hard. It was his mechanics post, that basically copied mine, that led me to conclude he was scum. If a townie cares enough about the game to write up a few paragraphs on D1 lynch strategy, they won't lurk. Those behaviors don't mesh, and it was an obvious play for town cred. I started out higher on Ruxxar, and wavered a lot, but was generally downgrading him as the game went on. When he started turning the lynch into a 3-person choice, I really wasn't sure. I was pretty sure the RS/RX/DD circle had one townie in it (but having only seen DD play before, I couldn't rule out terrible scum play), but I wasn't sure if there were two townies in it or not. Also, I 100% Townread Rayne like two hours into the game, and he was pretty convinced about RX, so I figured he saw something I was missing. A couple things tweaked me to KSC: First, anyone who made a case against scott was a possible scum. Scott was an easy lynch to try to push as he lurked a lot early. Second, he tried to pocket me multiple times, townreading me and resisting lynches against me. Still, he did a great job with his interactions with CopCake - I would not have put them as both scum. I should have caught CopCake when she tried to lynch me. Her case was completely inaccurate, based on me being a lurker. I remember even KSC saying something to the effect of, "the one thing you can't accuse iGrok of is lurking." In hindsight, really should have caught on to this, but sleep deprivation was taking hold at the time, and I probably would have ruled it out anyways based on her interactions with KSC. As for the town reads, rayne was cleared because he knew what I was doing and was the only one publicly defending it. If he was mafia, I know that rayne is a good enough player to recognize that I would have been an easy lynch if he didn't ally with me. Town rayne gives 0 fucks and goes after mafia hard, damn the consequences. Super easy read with how active and controversial of a day 1 got forced. Damdred was 99% cleared because I knew there couldn't be 3 mafia in the RS/RX/DD circle. If the three of them were all mafia, I was going to be so disappointed because you expect better play (although really bad play can sometimes work out in an anti-meta kind of way). Scott was cleared because of how many people jumped on his case so quickly. At least one mafia had to be making a case for him, and he didn't seem like a good bus candidate because it had a chance of actually going through. Shining's first few posts read as town-stupid to me, as I explained to rayne. It was fairly obvious to see the thought patterns in the way he posted, that he got distracted by something and/or couldn't figure out a case and put it aside for later. Rels... man, you were difficult! Asking me to comment on your talk with Rayne felt really weird, and I wasn't really sure what to make of it. @RS: You made a classic scumslip, as town. Maybe if I had played more games with you, I would have given you more benefit of the doubt, but it really seemed incredibly obvious. Then you sheeped several reads that contradicted each other. Maybe you're the kind of player who plays much better on day 2, like Radfield, GGQ, or Foolishness? I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes. @RX: Speaking of which, I was literally left speechless when you accused me of being scum because I was putting effort into the game. It actually made me lean town on you for a little while. Is that seriously how bad things have gotten? Proper sentences and formatting are scumtells? Townies don't try? Look, the time I come from was a time of incredibly long posts. They were probably too long, but I much prefer them to the twitter-esque spamfest that some people post in. It isn't difficult to capitalize your sentences, use formatting tags, and most importantly think for a few minutes about what you want to say before posting it. Overall, despite the heat, Day 1 was reasonably enjoyable. I hope most of you sign up for Gaiden 2 | ||
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