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On July 30 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote: also rsoultin still wants to lynch me even if she thinks I'm town. that's weird.
64/80
i keep saying i have a strong townread on gb and i'm kinda townreading you but i could be wrong on you. there's nothing weird about it and you're not stupid enough to think otherwise. is english failing you?
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65/80
how many times have i been wrong on you? i'm more confident gb is town than you are. that simple. and this thing you keep pushing where i couldn't POSSIBLY think that gb is town despite your "red check" when i was already strong townreading him is pretty damn retarded, palmar, and i find it hard to believe that you actually think that -_-
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On July 30 2015 06:21 KelsierSC wrote: come on grow some balls and vote slam, you know it's good.
the only reason not to lynch him is snickers "logic" which is like playing chess with a monkey
66/80
lol ksc is town for this post alone ><
god i <3 you sometimes
ye i reviewed hopeless' reaction to palmar but he conveniently wasn't here until palmar had already unclaimed so...yeh disregard that
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67/80
no, he just let it sit there unanswered ^^
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68/80
prefer bf to palmar, gb, so no
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69/80
in b4 palmar doesn't consolidate cause pita
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70/80
ye can we still lynch slam?
the true yolo! \o/
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On July 30 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 06:51 KelsierSC wrote: I really think slam is a better lynch. I don't want to lynch boxer
##unvote
##vote Alakaslam rsoultin~~~~~~~~ Although slam might well be scum. We just don't have any evidence one way or the other.
71/80
ye and i'm as town as it gets. it's not my fault you scrubs have retarded reasons for wanting to lynch me
anyway, voting slam
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On July 30 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: Any YOLO will kill me.
You should think twice before switching
72/80
will switch back if i have to calm down
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no one's changing ksc...it's not gonna happen today
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i did already lol calm down
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yes yes yes fuck you all yes!
FUCK YOU ALL!
\o/
i'll find the third tomorrow, SUCK IT BITCHES!!! lol ><
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77/80
okay, i'm done waffling
strongest towns
gb ksc palmar - just finished rereading his filter and i'm not lynching him this game...like he can continue saying i'm too awful to contest a red check as town if he wants, and accuse me of tmi...i'll just laugh at him and say see i'm a god xP but ye i don't see scum in his filter when i take it in aggregate
strong towns:
hopeless uncc'd cop scott town by scum pushing/green check
maybe town?
oneg - still kinda trust the meta read/claim but it's time for the step-up ows - i dunnae how to say it other than i think we're reading the same game off the same script and i don't think scum obi can pull that off. plus lynching scum ya know  snickers - playing some weird combination of ballsy retarded scumgame if he's scum...not sure that's beyond him
that leaves... bf
so...ye
i'll take a real close look through the bottom four, hopefully before EoN, but i'm coming out around the same place as gb and ksc...which honestly isn't that surprising lol >< my main concern tonight was palmar and to just make up my mind on him if i could. fortunately his posting this game made that easier than expected
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79/80
On July 30 2015 03:07 Snickers wrote: lol slam comes into the game and im outting him as a role.
^ heh, maybe we just kill snickers after all. his "you guys suck for killing scum" is pretty bad, and it's clear he knew that not only had slam replaced, but that he'd replaced in for clarity before the lynch. so this "you just killed someone who would be modkilled" or whatever is pretty disingenuous (\o/ hf word!). also complete wrong reaction. whether he was wrong or not, he should at least be happy that scum is backed into a corner lol ><
sidenote: bf's response made me think he could be town again :/, just as his responses near EoD had me asking if we could still kill slam lol >< last scum saying ye, cool, lynch me then catch scum, i'll answer questions first? could be a wifom play. kinda doubtful
why snickers is likely the last scum...
association, association, association
- he mentions tofu a grand total of 8 times in that ridic long filter of his during the d1 lynch, most of those times in this post defending him, which is the first time he ever mentions a read on him at all. it's also reasoning that tofu later takes up to try to say he's town:
On July 26 2015 21:33 Snickers wrote: like its prty obv tofu nor scott is mafia lol.
one person said i dont like this one setence about tofu and now there is a tofu train about to depart.
and scott is extremely towny. He seems like a new player and a new player isnt going to put out a list of reads and have it be all leans while they are mafia.
so instead of going with the flow of mafia pushing into tofu and scott lynch boxer or at least comment about my case on boxer that somehow people are ignoring.
- additionally, the wording here in his second post to tofu is pretty interesting. i don't know how to explain it, but it's almost like he's trying to throw bones to the guy in thread rather than get a read on him, and it's pretty different than his aggressive behavior toward pretty much all of the other players in thread @.@:
On July 26 2015 03:21 Snickers wrote: firm tofu whats ur read on boxer? I think you could make a detailed read on him.
- ends up voting bf instead of clar and afking. caveat: prob should have jumped on the scott train or ft's train, but he'd been defending scott pretty hard and leaving his vote on the other two scum, if he really couldn't be around for EoD, might have felt uncomfortable. dunnae. he left well before the lynch though. note to self: check where the votes were sitting when he left
- clarity also never gets the "snickers" treatment d1...first semblance of a read that isn't really a read and he goes to bf not long after:
On July 27 2015 05:08 Snickers wrote: im lynching clarity, almost out of posts and have to go to work. remember vigi shoot boxer.
fyi i think the scott lynch would be beyond terrible.
- "mentioned" 32 times in giant-ass filter, if you define "mention" loosely lol, because most of these mentions are in reference to reads on other people or others' reads on him...clar is dropped like a hot potato (though never really a strong scumread to begin with as far as i can tell) very early into d2 here:
On July 28 2015 21:58 Snickers wrote: anyway im tired this is where i am at not looking at voting patterns
in order of people to not lynch today
first is clairty second is boxer third is scott (note: i really dont know how scott ended with so many votes i guess i should look into fi people consolidated on scott in order to not vote tofu and had good reasons)
obi and onegu are prty town
i will finish later. ^ little fun fact...these are all the people ft voted, so snickers' "voting analysis" consisted of lead scum wagon voting on other lead wagons to save himself. super shit tier reasoning alert. he doesn't even bother to evaluate who ft was actually pushing (scott) of the three, and puts him last
- first suggestion clar could be blue comes well after that, and given that post it's clear it wasn't a "role read" that had him saying don't lynch clar, anyway:
On July 29 2015 06:22 Snickers wrote: well considering you dont know why clarity is the worst lynch
- this is just a super trash set of reasons for thinking clar is blue. some of the quoted posts don't even match what he's saying. from the perspective post-lynch, it looks like he possibly is just making all this shit up: + Show Spoiler +On July 30 2015 03:05 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Sheeping rayn before he tunnels me. I agree Hopeless opening post looks forced.
##Vote Hopeless1der
Onegu named town I think claiming d1 is standard thing to do so it's whatever, basically am miller claim.
This snickers guy is pretty cool this whole post is important. very awkward buddying to me early in the game because he was already reading me town. vt or scum dont do this. he also commented about the onegu claim cause its important to him. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 23:38 Clarity_nl wrote: Snickers you should vote this hopeless dude seeing as you called him "confirmed scum". It'll be great heres another thing roles would say Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote: So are you gonna vote for rsoultin and explain it then? again more Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 05:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 26 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote: :/ i disagree with you on both those reads, gb
i've been kinda more hands-off this game as well cause my hands-on game is super spammy. what do you think about the rest of his play?
as for clarity, i don't like him because he has no opinion, just is sheeping, then he demands me for mine on the player he has no opinion on? he complains about no one posting or progressing the thread without progressing the thread. and then he disappears as soon as snickers starts tunneling...it seems like he's posting just to post to me Pretty much true actually. I've arranged to be around during deadline tomorrow but I won't be around all day and I'm not supposed to be here tonight either. What I don't understand is that instead of just answering my question you antagonize me? You keep saying you're happy to lynch hopeless yet your vote is still unused, I don't get it. I don't agree with Palmar about your opening posts because I know where the joke stems from, but you went from happy go lucky to pissed in the span of like 2 posts although snicker's tunnel was pretty dumb I guess. Not quite sure what's going on with you yet rsoultin, but your townreads seem good so whatever. Anyway, do not lynch list: rayn, Palmar, KSC, Snickers (lol), onegu Mixed feelings about scott. He noted rsoultin was different than gaiden, which I agreed with at the time of his writing, but he mentioned it like THREE times for some reason to really drive home that he HAD A READ while emphasizing that it was only a slight lean. On July 25 2015 08:06 scott31337 wrote:1/75 On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? ##Give 5 posts to KelsierSCIf I actually go thru 80 posts in a cycle I would impress myself to be honest. I know there's three scum - I haven't liked VT claims since my second game, and neither should you - It's not as bad as LS claiming when the breeze blows by is what I was stating. GB didn't reply that he was my friend, just that he is town - I'm town too but not the response I wanted.  Palmar speaking the truth, he's probably my favorite player next to HF. Rsoul already seems different this game - could be a good sign. On July 25 2015 08:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 08:23 KelsierSC wrote:On July 25 2015 08:06 scott31337 wrote:1/75 On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? ##Give 5 posts to KelsierSCIf I actually go thru 80 posts in a cycle I would impress myself to be honest. I know there's three scum - I haven't liked VT claims since my second game, and neither should you - It's not as bad as LS claiming when the breeze blows by is what I was stating. GB didn't reply that he was my friend, just that he is town - I'm town too but not the response I wanted.  Palmar speaking the truth, he's probably my favorite player next to HF. Rsoul already seems different this game - could be a good sign. So just to get this straight, you thought the scummy thing about my post was that I claimed vt? what does this have to do with LS claiming ? how is Rsoul "different"? Yes. What else did you do in that post? I do not see anything else... The LS thing - It's a bad claim - just like what other people do and have not learned their lesson. Does that make sense to you? Rsoul seems happier and called people out quickly unlike her last two scum games. It's only one post, but...Palmar is one of my favorites as town - blunt, to the point - but if he needs to pull out the stops (the game rayn bussed everybody and Palmar kicked it up d4 to get the win) he will. I'll be back in a couple hours. (and I can't count my posts for shit either, 1/75 when I posted already doh!) Granted this one is explaining his read. On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Last thought before bed: I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts. Made no sense at all. Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense? Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either - Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it. If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too. Then he tops it off with his preffered lynches, all the lurkers. From what I remember firmtofu is massive lynchbait regardless of alignment so I think he makes a better shot than a lynch. Still liking the hopeless lynch. theres the snickers lol also his whole play day one was role play
overall play
- overly aggressive, shit poor reasoning, with a hyper-focus on minutiae and tinfoil hat sort of arguments <-don't think i need to provide examples for this, but the gb/rsoul scumteam where rsoul is gf theory is a prime example (that this behavior didn't extend to both clarity and firm tofu is especially damning)
meta note
- this is pretty different from his trolly play in mafia down under 2...i was thinking possibly he was just dicking around that game and this looks more like his reg town play (as i said before, i usually associate this level of aggression with town) but honestly even when he was trolling what he was pointing out was actually intelligent and it's why i had a townread on him through most of the game until my bad townread on scum!rit ended up putting snickers further and further down the poe
TLDR - super aggressive, nonsensical playstyle all game that seems to skirt around clarity and ft - strong associations with both clarity and ft - different from the town game we played together (not as trolly, not as intelligent) - "blue" read on clar seems made up - reaction to clar lynch not like town who just needs to find one more scum...bf should be practically confirmed scum to him now; instead he's just angry - snickers is mafia! -drops mic-
also went back through hopeless...he kept the scott check close to the vest but him coming in to vote clar/slam instead of just staying afk and letting the bf/gb lynch happen clears him in my eyes independent of the cop claim
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80/80
lol ><
palmar, if you need evidence that i'm fully capable of evaluating claims on my feet as town, pushing mig despite his tracker claim in himalayas should be proof enough
if your "reaction test" thingy is not the only reason you're scumreading me, can you please explain so i can address it? because i really want you to actually read my case. i think it's pretty good!
it's kind of...bothersome...that your read on me is centered around "she's not good enough to do this as town". i didn't say your claim was fake. i was pretty sure it wasn't (or, at least, that you probably weren't scum fake-claiming there). i just thought my read was good xP
regardless, would you please just pretend i'm the towniest town who ever towned in your eyes and actually read what i wrote on snickers? then if you want to go back to tunneling me, have at it. thanks
@bf
we can talk post-game, but for me it was mostly poe. not you being especially scummy, but just that i had reasons to be more confident in others being town
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81/85
thanks for the posts
nah, no worries. i've fooled too many people as scum to worry about "never lynch" status. i won't get lynched before i'm nkd...not concerned
snickers 100% best lynch tomorrow
never lynch ksc/gb either; don't expect hopeless to be around long enough for it to matter, but still not much incentive for him to fake-claim then come and lynch his scummate...if he's still alive can assume that last scum role is either gf or rb unless he's like around in lylo or something
that's my two cents lol ><
peace, folks!
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1/80
eh, that was me. if we're right shortening the day phase, great. if we're wrong though, day phases go to 24 hours the rest of the game and that didn't seem ideal ^^
anywho
you're assuming that slam checked the scum qt, oneg...snickers addressed enough posts to him about the blue claim that i'd consider that "telling him" if that's the main reason you don't want to lynch him
also, what prevents scum from going against your claim? you don't play a very townie game. that's the only reason you can use your oneg rule after all lol >< early pointless named vt claim followed by no real effort yeah i could see scum pushing you easily?
did you read my case? do you really think any of your protests are stronger than the evidence i brought?
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2/80
i didn't read, my bad, but apparently it's not supposed to be talked about anyway
regardless
moving on!
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3/80
i've been assuming 3 mafia...is it possible there are four?
we have a flipped framer a flipped goon a flipped cop a claimed named vt
framer is a bit weak against a cop because the stars have to align but framer + gf or especially rb against cop + named vt seems overbalanced toward mafia
another blue hasn't claimed maybe? or a scum team of four? i dunnae. maybe this is out there lol ><
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